Nick
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Post by Nick on Feb 5, 2011 17:46:39 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 20:16:36 GMT -8
I was looking for the route 9 schedule, the times the ferry is scheduled to depart and arrive at each berth. I had tried the web archive site prior to asking but was unable to access the schedule as it didn't seem to support javascript. Strangely enough when I visit the site with my iPhone I get a link to an html file with the schedule. Thanks for the quick reply though!
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Post by gordon on Mar 28, 2011 15:07:17 GMT -8
The Prince Rupert -Skidigate Route
Is there any difference in distance when they go around the north tip of Stevens Island as oppoded to going beteen Prescott & Porcher Islands?
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 19, 2011 8:25:18 GMT -8
How come route 2 is already on their summer schedule??? They are using the schedule they use during the summer as I thought that one dosent start until like the end of June. I guess they are using the summer schedule for a longer period as it dosent go back to the regular schedule till Oct 14th.
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Post by lmtengs on May 19, 2011 14:24:05 GMT -8
How come route 2 is already on their summer schedule??? They are using the schedule they use during the summer as I thought that one dosent start until like the end of June. I guess they are using the summer schedule for a longer period as it dosent go back to the regular schedule till Oct 14th. I'm assuming it's because they don't have the Coastal Renaissance on the route, so they need more sailings to justify the lower vehicle cap on the route. My best guess
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Post by Nickfro on May 19, 2011 15:04:11 GMT -8
How come route 2 is already on their summer schedule??? They are using the schedule they use during the summer as I thought that one dosent start until like the end of June. I guess they are using the summer schedule for a longer period as it dosent go back to the regular schedule till Oct 14th. I'm assuming it's because they don't have the Coastal Renaissance on the route, so they need more sailings to justify the lower vehicle cap on the route. My best guess Actually, the Coastal Renaissance IS currently on Route 2, and would be staying there for the summer. However, with the bow door issues on the Coastal Celebration, the Coastal Renaissance will be heading back to Route 1 after the long weekend until the repairs have been completed on the Coastal Celebration.If the Queen of Surrey wasn't in refit right now, the CR might have stayed on Route 1 for the long weekend, but that isn't the case, and the shuffle was required in order to keep the published schedule with the ferries that are available. Getting back to the original inquiry, perhaps past years have shown that it just makes sense to change to the summer schedule at the start of the May Long Weekend since traffic volume is generally greater this early. I don't think it has anything to do with what particular ferries are on the route, because the CR was supposed to be on the route in this schedule. It also doesn't have anything to do with ferry capacities, because really there aren't any extra sailings than in past years. . .they've just switched to a 2hr 10min gap between sailings instead of 2hr. It just means more time when docked in aim to keep on time. It's important to note that the Route 3 schedule has also changed. It is, however, a modified schedule that lasts until the end of June, then the summer schedule (as per last couple of years) kicks in.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 19, 2011 15:15:34 GMT -8
regarding the Route-2 summer schedule:
- the important thing to keep in mind is that the summer schedule's main change is departure-times, not just # of sailings.
The change the departure times to allow for more time in loading-unloading at end of each run.
for Route-2 during busy times, they can't maintain a 2-hour schedule. They need more time....
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 19, 2011 16:28:36 GMT -8
Speaking of schedules...
Can anyone confirm that BC Ferries has or is going to phase out paper schedules? I thought I heard a crewperson on the 'Inspiration tell someone that today...
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Post by EGfleet on May 19, 2011 17:09:32 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 19, 2011 17:39:16 GMT -8
Speaking of schedules... Can anyone confirm that BC Ferries has or is going to phase out paper schedules? I thought I heard a crewperson on the 'Inspiration tell someone that today... I have heard that the 2010/11 "All Routes Schedule" is the last of its kind.
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Post by Scott on May 19, 2011 19:01:23 GMT -8
Speaking of schedules... Can anyone confirm that BC Ferries has or is going to phase out paper schedules? I thought I heard a crewperson on the 'Inspiration tell someone that today... I have heard that the 2010/11 "All Routes Schedule" is the last of its kind. I suppose this move does make sense, although I've often found it handy to have a spare schedule sitting in the car for reference. We don't all have iPhones or Blackberries. A sign of the times, I suppose. I'm also disappointed in another aspect as I've got a collection of schedules going back right to the beginning (not all of them). It's kind of nice to have a printed reference of fares and schedules from years past. It does sound like they'll have printed schedules available in a limited supply for certain routes or regions.
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Post by Mike C on May 20, 2011 1:52:17 GMT -8
I have heard that the 2010/11 "All Routes Schedule" is the last of its kind. I suppose this move does make sense, although I've often found it handy to have a spare schedule sitting in the car for reference. We don't all have iPhones or Blackberries. A sign of the times, I suppose. I'm a little annoyed at this particular move to save costs by BC Ferries. This day traveler always found it handy to have a schedule in his backpack. I have the iPhone, and since the mobile site is specifically designed to access Current Conditions only, I feel that an improvement to the mobile site to access all schedules, system-wide, is needed. A dramatic improvement.
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Post by lmtengs on May 20, 2011 14:42:14 GMT -8
I suppose this move does make sense, although I've often found it handy to have a spare schedule sitting in the car for reference. We don't all have iPhones or Blackberries. A sign of the times, I suppose. I'm a little annoyed at this particular move to save costs by BC Ferries. This day traveler always found it handy to have a schedule in his backpack. I have the iPhone, and since the mobile site is specifically designed to access Current Conditions only, I feel that an improvement to the mobile site to access all schedules, system-wide, is needed. A dramatic improvement. They also need to release an app for Android Phones. They're quickly becoming a big player in the cellular phone industry.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 22, 2011 10:38:49 GMT -8
Like John, I've been collecting schedules for quite a while- since 1966. This means I'll have to print out a bulky lot of paper from their online schedule.
It's ridiculously inconvenient for a lot of travellers- particularly older people who are not joined at the wrist to communication devices like a lot of younger types are. It's getting to the point where travellers simply cannot 'get away from it all', in the sense of leaving their electronic umbilical cords behind.
The increasing loss of paper records has a wider implication, as genealogists and others have pointed out. Phone books and other printed records and guides provide a snapshot of our society at particular points, and now increasingly we're depending on various agencies and companies to preserve those records electronically, often at their own discretion, and the public does not always have the same access. Sometimes that access might be better, if everything stays online forever, but that's often not the case. Hopefully I'm wrong, but aside from the inconvenience of companies like BC Ferries cutting costs by not printing schedules, we might find, years down the road, that often the electronic record isn't as available as the paper record that was carefully archived.
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Post by piglet on May 22, 2011 11:04:13 GMT -8
I find it extremely annoying myself as I do not own a smart phone nor am I likely too in the near future as I don't really have a need for one from day to day. I have an old schedule in the glove box from our last trip to the island and now will have to as Neil says print off a ton of paper to shove in there for the next trip. Not impressed at all.
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Post by Dane on May 22, 2011 14:57:47 GMT -8
They also need to release an app for Android Phones. They're quickly becoming a big player in the cellular phone industry. mobile.bcferries.com I don't know why people think they need an app for things like this when 75% of apps just forward you to a mobile site. Like Facebook. It would be nice to see more content on the mobile version. I am having a hard time imagining a real need for paper schedules. Sure people don't have smart phones but the full schedule is easily accessible on the web and I have a hard time thinking someone needs an entire BCF schedule with them at all times. Certainly there are times it is convenient, I don't doubt that, but it can't be for that many people when they would have researched on the web ahead of time. The number of people without web access is minimal. Hopefully in the communities that BCF does serve with limited access there will be a form of printed schedule. Or schedule boards as is done at some terminals/communities.
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Post by Mill Bay on May 22, 2011 15:13:53 GMT -8
I suppose this move does make sense, although I've often found it handy to have a spare schedule sitting in the car for reference. We don't all have iPhones or Blackberries. A sign of the times, I suppose. I'm a little annoyed at this particular move to save costs by BC Ferries. This day traveler always found it handy to have a schedule in his backpack. I have the iPhone, and since the mobile site is specifically designed to access Current Conditions only, I feel that an improvement to the mobile site to access all schedules, system-wide, is needed. A dramatic improvement. Any justification stating that this is due to an effort to cut costs would not stand in the face of reason as, compared to all their other operating and marketing costs, BCFerries printing bill must be something close to negligible in the ledge. If that were the excuse, it would seem to be more a case of the old saying regarding those who would bend over to pick up and 'save' a penny while not noticing the hundred dollar note that slipped out of their back pocket when they bent over.
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Post by lmtengs on May 22, 2011 15:39:39 GMT -8
They also need to release an app for Android Phones. They're quickly becoming a big player in the cellular phone industry. mobile.bcferries.com I don't know why people think they need an app for things like this when 75% of apps just forward you to a mobile site. Like Facebook. It would be nice to see more content on the mobile version. I am having a hard time imagining a real need for paper schedules. Sure people don't have smart phones but the full schedule is easily accessible on the web and I have a hard time thinking someone needs an entire BCF schedule with them at all times. Certainly there are times it is convenient, I don't doubt that, but it can't be for that many people when they would have researched on the web ahead of time. The number of people without web access is minimal. Hopefully in the communities that BCF does serve with limited access there will be a form of printed schedule. Or schedule boards as is done at some terminals/communities. And then of course there are those who don't don't have a computer, period. I know of quite a few, most of whom are seniors. The paper schedules are much more easy to use, especially for them. But keep in mind, didn't BCF say that it's only the all-routes schedule that's no longer going to be released? It sounded like they'd still have paper schedules for groups of routes. It's going to be a similar amount of paper in our glove compartments (maybe less, if we don't have one for every route) , just not all stapled into one booklet.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 22, 2011 17:13:47 GMT -8
I think a good use of a printed multi-route schedule is for routes 5 and 9. Because there is so much day-to-day variance in those routes' schedules, a printed multi-route (5 & 9) schedule is necessary for some travelers.
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mrdot
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Post by mrdot on May 22, 2011 17:47:23 GMT -8
:)in this world of hi- tec., email , etc. there are still many dinosaurs like myself, some that still read hard copy, rotary clocks, some even still listen to vinal, 8 tracks, and large print newspapers, although in my last years of planning, a bright young girl could not read my rotary wall clock and needed a digital readout! long live hard copy! :)mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on May 22, 2011 20:19:12 GMT -8
:)in this world of hi- tec., email , etc. there are still many dinosaurs like myself, some that still read hard copy, rotary clocks, some even still listen to vinal, 8 tracks, and large print newspapers, although in my last years of planning, a bright young girl could not read my rotary wall clock and needed a digital readout! long live hard copy! :)mrdot. Well, be happy there's one young person who still lives like an oldie! My watch is a rotary, I listen to vinyl, and in church, I refuse to recite the 'modern' version, in favour of the traditional version, which in my opinion, is the 'right' version. Our Father, who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name, Thy kingdom come, Thy wilt be done on earth as it is in heaven, Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, Forever and ever, Amen and PS: Yes, the King James version of the bible is the way to go
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Post by Dane on May 22, 2011 20:31:56 GMT -8
I should clarify as I used poor all encompassing wording - there should be, and I expect, that route schedules will exist for many if not all routes.
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Post by mrdot on May 23, 2011 10:18:43 GMT -8
:)to the cdn. viking, keep on with that king james old english, my wife sings in those old lyrics, and your command of the kings english will never leave you, two things remain from my 1950's school curricullm, reciting the lords prayer, and the old typing keyboard! perhaps that's why I get so peved at flushing away the dogwood, and other historical heritage of my life's journey! :)mrdot.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 23, 2011 10:51:52 GMT -8
I should clarify as I used poor all encompassing wording - there should be, and I expect, that route schedules will exist for many if not all routes. Not so. I called BC Ferries, and they are in fact doing away with printed schedules, as of the summer. Period. Pathetic customer service, and utter hogwash that they're doing it because the schedules change too much for a printed version. Contrast this with Washington State Ferries, or especially, Alaska, where they will mail you a schedule upon request.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 23, 2011 13:16:33 GMT -8
Here's what I was handed at the toll-booth at Little River, on Saturday.
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