|
|
Post by javaman on Feb 7, 2005 20:18:20 GMT -8
What if... BC Ferries had decided to build the new Super-C's in B.C? Well, it might have looked something like this:  Footnote: I was playing around with a picture I took of the Spirit of BC and thought, well this might be what a Super-C could have looked like. Not that it was anywhere possible, but I thought it would've been nice to imagine. Enjoy! |
|
Koastal Karl
Voyager 
Been on every BC Ferry now!!!!!
Posts: 7,747
|
Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 7, 2005 21:02:11 GMT -8
Actually that would be kind of cool a double ended Spirit ship.
|
|
|
|
Post by Engineer on Feb 7, 2005 21:16:47 GMT -8
looks great your hired
|
|
|
|
Post by Balfour on Feb 7, 2005 22:03:43 GMT -8
They should have built something like that for HB-DB instead of the Pacificats
|
|
|
|
Post by Curtis on Feb 7, 2005 22:09:22 GMT -8
:oThats so the way I wanted a double ended Sprit to be ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by Curtis on Feb 7, 2005 22:22:10 GMT -8
Oh yeah that pic is what i say a Super S-Class would look like I would say by the size close to 800 cars could fit onto the ship and over 4000 passengers. With those ships on Stz Bay-Tsawwassen the Sprit's would be wimpy refit ships. could anyone imagine that  |
|
|
|
Post by javaman on Feb 7, 2005 22:33:29 GMT -8
I was thinking,
If that was ever built, how would you send it thru Active Pass?
I saw the Spirit of BC being loaded from the water onto drydock again this morning from my office. I see the Oak Bay and the Spirit side by side now.
I'm assuming the interior of the Spirit is going to look like the refitted C's?
|
|
Koastal Karl
Voyager
Been on every BC Ferry now!!!!!
Posts: 7,747
|
Post by Koastal Karl on Feb 7, 2005 22:59:41 GMT -8
So is the Spirit of BC in the Vancouver Drydock along with the Oaky??? Do you know how long she will be there for?? I was thinking of maybe taking another trip to Van next week so I thought of going over from Departure Bay then coming down into North Van to try a get a view of the Drydock, any good viewing areas around there???
|
|
|
|
Post by javaman on Feb 7, 2005 23:08:29 GMT -8
Well, according to the BC Ferries website, the Spirit of BC is back in service starting March 18th. So it looks like you have some time to catch it in drydock.
I can only see it from across the harbour. I'm not from North Van, so I wouldn't really know where a good view would be. Down lonsdale ave maybe???
|
|
|
|
Post by Dane on Feb 8, 2005 0:19:56 GMT -8
Ill look where it is tomorrow and suggest a view, generally they're hard to see anywhere until just before they leave when they go to the eastern most pier. Then you can drive very neer them.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ferryman on Feb 8, 2005 8:05:22 GMT -8
I think Stanley Park is a good place to look across or even going over the Lions gate Bridge, and some say they can see the ferries in the drydock along Lonsdale
|
|
|
|
Post by Dane on Feb 8, 2005 15:03:18 GMT -8
No really good public views unless you're on the water. The tower look out from the Quay plus a zoom lens is your best bet I'd suggest.
Dane
|
|
|
|
Post by NMcKay on Feb 8, 2005 16:01:06 GMT -8
the best thing i can think of is to give the shipyards a call.. sometimes if you ask nice they will allow you on thier property to take photos
|
|
|
|
Post by Balfour on Feb 8, 2005 16:26:16 GMT -8
If you want a really good view of Ferries in the Dry dock, just drive along Esplanade Ave.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ian on Feb 8, 2005 17:34:48 GMT -8
Hey that was my idea, to make a double ended spirit, i even posted a picture on yahoo site but it had no funnel.
|
|
|
|
Post by Balfour on Feb 8, 2005 19:56:45 GMT -8
Hey Dane, What part of North Van do you live in?
I live close to the bottom of Grouse Mountain Part of the time, and out on Indian Arm for the other part.
|
|
|
|
Post by cascade on Feb 9, 2005 5:15:36 GMT -8
Quesation for all of you.
What happen to the Terminal "Plugs" that were built for the Fast Cats - so they didn't have to change the terminals. They were floated in - so I guess they floated away?
Sandwell's were enagaed to design and build them at a cost of $70M (This amount came out in one of the hearings)
I wonder a nice little bit of scrap metal or what?
|
|
|
|
Post by NMcKay on Feb 9, 2005 12:42:26 GMT -8
terminal plugs? the fastcats had massive ramps that they built so that the plugs didn't have to be built
|
|
|
|
Post by cascade on Feb 10, 2005 8:59:35 GMT -8
Well the plug's were build and they cost $70m - that is part of the reason why Sandwell's are sort of "black Balled" from any other BCF work, plus it was a very heated exchange in MLA committe meetings - well doc the exchange and reason as to why they build these things instead of changes to the terminals.
The front ramps were for loading.
Look at an outline of the cats and you will see that they are a lot thinner than the normal ferry - hence they would have trouble in holding station - berthing. Therefore the need for the Plugs.
|
|
|
|
Post by NMcKay on Feb 10, 2005 14:12:00 GMT -8
i wouldn't think they would need them. just because they are thinner, doesn't mean they arn't manuverable. the harbourlynx has the same KaMeWa waterets as the Pacificats, and well, she can Turnaround in her own length, Go in reverse, and hold position, without the use of bow thrusters. I would see no need for the plugs.
|
|
|
|
Post by Dane on Feb 10, 2005 23:20:43 GMT -8
Right at the start of the Arm, Deep Cove (neer Cove Cliff Elemtary) Seycove Class '04  |
|
|
|
Post by cascade on Feb 11, 2005 7:44:28 GMT -8
Harbourlynx Kid,
You forget that your only loading foot pass - not cars. BIG - Very Big difference in movement while holding station.
|
|
|
|
Post by cascade on Feb 11, 2005 8:33:19 GMT -8
Terminal Plug's -
We had to laugh - first at the cost then as to why they had to design something.
Normal ferries and Fast Feries (Cats) here in Europe use the same dock's - terminals - berth. So when a Cat comes in - she is a lot thinner - so what happens is a set of hydraulic rams come out from the side of the "Dophins" - at a pre-set lenght - and hold the Cat in place while she unloads Cars & pass. When a normal ferry wants to use the same berth - then the rams retrack back - to normal positon. That way the companies who own the Docks - not governments - make max revnue and service a number of different operators - which op different types of vessels. So you the general public have choice of what type of vessel you want to travel on and what type of fare you want to pay. Plus they all operator at different times of the day.
So your next quesation is that BCF don't have the volume to handle this type of buiness. Your wrong - there are 7 different players on one route alone - and guess what they all make a profit. The volume of people & cars is a lot less than what travels on the BCF major routes - so it can be done.
|
|
