FNS
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The Empire Builder train of yesteryear in HO scale
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Post by FNS on Dec 31, 2016 11:55:52 GMT -8
Have an interesting question:
I don't live where Seaspan Ferries do their work at their terminals.
Do populated areas hear beeping noises from the vehicles loading and unloading the ferries of trailers?
I think people have fits when the SSA loads the freight ferries KATAMA, GAY HEAD, and SANKATY at their MA terminals as trucks and vehicles have to back themselves onto the Main Deck aboard them. They'd be hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP in their dreams.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Dec 31, 2016 12:25:41 GMT -8
Have an interesting question: I don't live where Seaspan Ferries do their work at their terminals. Do populated areas hear beeping noises from the vehicles loading and unloading the ferries of trailers? I think people have fits when the SSA loads the freight ferries KATAMA, GAY HEAD, and SANKATY at their MA terminals as trucks and vehicles have to back themselves onto the Main Deck aboard them. They'd be hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP in their dreams. The two mainland terminals- Tilbury in Delta and Surrey near the Skytrain and Pattullo bridges, are industrial areas with no residences nearby. I've watched them loading and unloading there, and I don't recall hearing the beeping. |
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Post by kampuniform on Jan 7, 2017 11:47:28 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 7, 2017 12:46:24 GMT -8
No, there is no "beeping" of trucks when loading, and all terminals are located in industrial areas. Welcome aboard here. We're glad to have your photos and knowledge of the Seaspan Ferries fleet. Such an interesting fleet to many of us. cheers ! |
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Post by kampuniform on Jan 9, 2017 14:28:54 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 9, 2017 17:13:44 GMT -8
Thanks for those. Terminal action views are a rare thing for those of us who are interested in the Seaspan ships, but aren't employees. A reality of a private freight service. In the first video, I'm assuming that you're filming from the Greg. If you're able to say, which ship will you be transferred to, once the retirement shuffle has been completed? My everyday contact with Seaspan is to see the Challenger/Spirit in Nanaimo in the afternoon. I can see parts of it from my office building (well, what I see is the Challenger's bridge, which is the easiest thing to see from a distance...). |
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Post by mybidness459 on Jan 11, 2017 16:39:09 GMT -8
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Post by kampuniform on Jan 13, 2017 20:18:36 GMT -8
It won't be too difficult to keep track of ships tethered to berths for the foreseeable future. The new BC Ferry has experienced significant difficulty with her dual fuel system. Caused a significant stir in the engine room, from what I can gather. New ships are one thing: problematic. |
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Post by kampuniform on Jan 13, 2017 20:28:21 GMT -8
Thanks for those. Terminal action views are a rare thing for those of us who are interested in the Seaspan ships, but aren't employees. A reality of a private freight service. In the first video, I'm assuming that you're filming from the Greg. If you're able to say, which ship will you be transferred to, once the retirement shuffle has been completed? My everyday contact with Seaspan is to see the Challenger/Spirit in Nanaimo in the afternoon. I can see parts of it from my office building (well, what I see is the Challenger's bridge, which is the easiest thing to see from a distance...). Yes, the vid was shot from the Greg's bridge. Sadly, the idea of retirement only appears in my imagination as a fleeting, haunting wisp; I'll be with the company for quite some time to come. Fortunately, the company has wisely decided to invest in fleet renewal. I hope that it works out for them. I remember when the Doris was carted off a couple of years ago. The only thing holding her together was the paint. |
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Post by kampuniform on Jan 14, 2017 15:35:18 GMT -8
The last day for the Arctic Taglu/Georgia Link. Her last scheduled SB sailing was at 2300 on Friday. Now she's off to the bone yard.
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Post by Neil on Jan 14, 2017 17:37:30 GMT -8
The last day for the Arctic Taglu/Georgia Link. Her last scheduled SB sailing was at 2300 on Friday. Now she's off to the bone yard. And the first revenue sailing for the Seaspan Swift is Sunday the 22nd at 11:30pm from Tilbury, then sitting at Swartz Bay until the return trip at 11:00am. |
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Post by mybidness459 on Jan 16, 2017 14:40:08 GMT -8
If I recall correctly even the Spirit Class ships were thought to be "Top" Heavy. Every Ship has its issues no matter what type, rather Ferry, etc.
I can not wait to see the Seaspan Swift and Reliant come into Nanaimo. Now if LNG and Duel powered vessel's are having problems, it just makes you think of just how difficult and long it is going to take to get alternative fuels to combat Climate change. We might just have to go back to sail power. LOL!
The reality of what is required to make the change is "Easier said than Done".
Our local transit system in Nanaimo a few years ago made the Change to CNG busses, and as far as I can tell the new Transit service Center in Richmond (Hamilton) Now has CNG buses.
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Post by YoursTruly on Jan 16, 2017 21:04:11 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 16, 2017 22:51:43 GMT -8
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Post by YoursTruly on Jan 16, 2017 23:03:39 GMT -8
Yeah I saw that. I guess the article was published using old data. In other news though, the Salish Orca is in Tsawwassen terminal right now. |
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Post by Chris City on Jan 17, 2017 17:58:06 GMT -8
Did that thread on FB get shut down? There was some great info there.... |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 17, 2017 18:59:30 GMT -8
Did that thread on FB get shut down? There was some great info there.... Apparently so ... The original post plus subsequent comments. Something is going on ... |
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Jan 17, 2017 19:05:07 GMT -8
Did that thread on FB get shut down? There was some great info there.... When I checked this morning to see if anyone had answered my question about crewing levels on the Swift, Carrier Princess, and Princess Superior, I saw that for some reason the moderator had closed comments, and my question was gone. Very odd. Another thing I hate about facebook: stuff just gets lost instead of archived. There was a great conversation about the Seaspan Doris some weeks ago, but when I searched the name, the only thing that came up were the few posts that had photos attached. Forums like this one are dying out, but what's replacing them is disorganized and not useful for research. |
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Post by Chris City on Jan 17, 2017 19:16:32 GMT -8
Did that thread on FB get shut down? There was some great info there.... When I checked this morning to see if anyone had answered my question about crewing levels on the Swift, Carrier Princess, and Princess Superior, I saw that for some reason the moderator had closed comments, and my question was gone. Very odd. Another thing I hate about facebook: stuff just gets lost instead of archived. There was a great conversation about the Seaspan Doris some weeks ago, but when I searched the name, the only thing that came up were the few posts that had photos attached. Forums like this one are dying out, but what's replacing them is disorganized and not useful for research. I missed all the drama I guess, seems to happen a lot in the FB groups I belong to. I have absolutely no interest in any of that. I guess I missed the Seaspan Doris conversation too, would've really liked to have read that. |
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Post by Neil on Jan 17, 2017 21:03:53 GMT -8
When I checked this morning to see if anyone had answered my question about crewing levels on the Swift, Carrier Princess, and Princess Superior, I saw that for some reason the moderator had closed comments, and my question was gone. Very odd. Another thing I hate about facebook: stuff just gets lost instead of archived. There was a great conversation about the Seaspan Doris some weeks ago, but when I searched the name, the only thing that came up were the few posts that had photos attached. Forums like this one are dying out, but what's replacing them is disorganized and not useful for research. I missed all the drama I guess, seems to happen a lot in the FB groups I belong to. I have absolutely no interest in any of that. I guess I missed the Seaspan Doris conversation too, would've really liked to have read that. I don't know whether it's drama, on the nautical history site, or just an overly fussy attitude on the part of the moderator as to what he's going to allow. Most facebook 'forums' are benevolent dictatorships it seems, as opposed to this one, with it's committee of overseers. The facebook group in question does not want anything that could possibly be controversial, and the criteria sometimes seems a bit arbitrary. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 17, 2017 21:13:11 GMT -8
In general, FB is like the Wild West, anyone can say anything, it seems, including outright slanderous comments.
By contrast, the BCNH group moderator(s) seem to be over the top with excessive moderation of Seaspan related discussion. Where is that reasonable 'middle'?
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Post by Chris City on Jan 28, 2017 17:35:44 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Feb 8, 2017 16:06:23 GMT -8
A couple of the ' Swift on the Fraser, on her 4pm departure from Tilbury for Swartz Bay.   |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 8, 2017 18:37:07 GMT -8
A couple of the ' Swift on the Fraser, on her 4pm departure from Tilbury for Swartz Bay. Neil, did you get the impression you were watching the Princess Superior when Seaspan Swift sailed by? Or was the 'Swift strikingly different to your eye, when you saw her sail by? Just curious on how apparent her larger size is, when you see her at work. |
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Post by Neil on Feb 8, 2017 23:07:21 GMT -8
A couple of the ' Swift on the Fraser, on her 4pm departure from Tilbury for Swartz Bay. Neil, did you get the impression you were watching the Princess Superior when Seaspan Swift sailed by? Or was the 'Swift strikingly different to your eye, when you saw her sail by? Just curious on how apparent her larger size is, when you see her at work. The Seaspan Swift is a lot wider than the Princess Superior... and you really notice that looking at her head on. When I first spied her upriver, I thought I was looking at a building on the north shore, but then she moved. Not particularly graceful looking from the front view, but much better in profile. Probably irrelevant to talk about aesthetics with a freight ferry, but I like her from a side view. I'm also guessing that she has more crew facilities than the ' Superior, given her cabin size. I'd like to know the crew complement on these vessels, and if there are sleeping quarters. I think Seaspan really got it right with this concept. Broad, unrestricted freight deck, and sensible service speed. Don't know anything about fuel economy and other factors, so I'm hoping Western Mariner will be filling us in with an article soon... or perhaps somebody on the marine history facebook page. In a way, it's too bad that Seaspan's quirky fleet is getting more sensible, but it has to be a good thing for freight delivery on the coast that a carrier aside from BC Ferries sees a long term future in the business. |
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