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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 14, 2008 15:58:00 GMT -8
Question re Princess of Vancouver: Were you working on her in her CP days? or was it in her later life with other companies? Re the Princess of Vancouver and her last few CP years on Nanaimo-Vancouver service: - what was the typical customer? ie. the only time we (my family when I was a kid) took the PoV was when BC Ferries was on strike. - was there a niche market because the route went to downtown Vancouver? - I've heard stories of the popularity of the late-night sailings from Vancouver to Nanaimo. Was this big with the concert-goers and hockey/football fans, re Islanders going to Vancouver for entertainment? ========================= Thanks for joining this forum. Please be patient with our questions.....we appreciate the old stories that fill in the gaps in our history knowledge. Thanks  |
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Post by queenofcowichan on Apr 18, 2008 12:16:37 GMT -8
Hi Dave Welcome aboard!
I have a question I wanted to ask a Master of a vessle in the Nanaimo area for a long time now. I have a Radio Scanner at home and monitor Victoria Traffic and I have noticed that the Nanaimo area is a realy bad area for radio reception. Ie Lots of times a vessle such as yourself or one of the Ferries would call into Victoria Traffic and there is no reply. In the past week alone the Coastal Renaissance had to Make several attempts to contac vessle traffic on several nights before they finally responded.
Therefore I am wondering if there is talk in the marine community about the possibility of the Coast Guard erecting a radio tower on either Gabriola Island or on top of Mount Benson In Nanaimo so better communications can be made in Nanaimo. I am aware that Bowen Island has a tower, but there are times when it is down.
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Post by Neil on Jul 27, 2008 19:41:35 GMT -8
Berthed at Tilbury.  |
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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Aug 2, 2008 10:29:14 GMT -8
I found 2 vids of the Carrier Princess yesturday. The first video is of loading a Sperry Rail vehicle on to the vessle at Nanaimo including a little clip of the vessle:
The second video is a tour of the Carrier Princess (above) including the wheelhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2008 17:35:39 GMT -8
Hi welcome to the forum.
thats very cool.
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Post by davesim on Jan 28, 2009 22:16:07 GMT -8
Hello All
I posted here back in April/o8 that I currently sail as master on the Princess Superior.
I consequently lost track of this site... my apologies
In answer to Neil, Most vessels can carry 12 or less passengers.
We are limited to taking drivers accompanying dangerous goods.
The crews live aboard, usually week on/ week off, and most work 6 hours on, 6 hours off, so that we are crewed 24 hrs a day, and run about 18 hrs in 24. The Princess Superior has a crew of 10, and the Carrier Princess has 11.
In reply to Flugel Horn, I worked briefly as 3rd mate on the Princess of Vancouver in '79, before going back to tugs, and later the Arctic. I think the downtown to downtown was a feature, as well as being able to make a reservation.
In reply to queenofcowichan; there are some dead spots between Gallows Pt. and Jacks Pt., and it is also in a Victoria Traffic blind spot, but if we normally get thru inside Nanaimo Harbour, or out near Snake Island.
I'll check back sooner than 8 or 9 months next time.
Any of you masters departing Swartz Bay when the Superior is loading, when you sound your 1 prolonged blast .... we work 6 and 6 watches, and half the crew is off watch and sleeping at any given time....
best regards
Dave Sim
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 29, 2009 17:17:29 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Jul 29, 2009 17:56:36 GMT -8
Really nice photos of the SEASPAN DORIS, Mr. Musical Moderator! I have a soft spot in my heart for that ship. I have seen her so many times down here on Puget Sound in the 1970s. She would ferry rail cars into a rail slip in Seattle. My guess in what she ferried was dangerous cargo that should be kept off the main tracks between Vancouver and Seattle. I think that the SEASPAN GREG also paid Seattle a visit as well during that time. The crew aboard the DORIS sure must have an unbelievable view of the waterways from her bridge!  |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 29, 2009 19:33:26 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 29, 2009 20:20:15 GMT -8
Here are some photos of the Carrier Princess, taken July 22, 2009 between Mayne Island and Swartz Bay: Photo's where she's in poor light:   Then we (in the Cumberland) and the C-Princess cross lanes, and now I can take some photos of her in the sunlight:  And here she is at berth in Swartz:      ================= So, is the Carrier Princess another freight ship that's named after a BC First Nation? (the other being the Haida Transporter) ?? ha ha, just kidding; I wonder what the Carrier Nation of central BC thinks of that name.... ;D |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 29, 2009 21:03:38 GMT -8
I have a soft spot in my heart for that ship. I have seen her so many times down here on Puget Sound in the 1970s. She would ferry rail cars into a rail slip in Seattle. My guess in what she ferried was dangerous cargo that should be kept off the main tracks between Vancouver and Seattle.
I think that the SEASPAN GREG also paid Seattle a visit as well during that time. The Doris and the Greg where built for and operated by a company called "F.M. Yorke & Sons Ltd". Here is a YouTube video of someone's home movie of the launch of the ships Lorne Yorke and Greg Yorke.- the 1964 Greg Yorke launch starts at 7:03 of the movie. It's launched at Allied's old location on the south-shore of False Creek. I'm thrilled to have found this on YouTube. Awesome history, of a busy shipyard and a launched ship that we can see on Georgia Strait today. I don't think it gets much better than this, for us ship enthusiasts! |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 29, 2009 21:15:00 GMT -8
Has nothing to do with the Carrier First Nations in the Interior. Just as McDonald's (as in the Restaurants) has nothing to do with Scotland. I'm Tom Smothers and you're Dick Smothers. I think your fee as "straight man" is the same as my fee for the goof. ;D |
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Post by Mirrlees on Jul 29, 2009 22:34:14 GMT -8
Carrier Princess making a "Powerslide" into Active Pass May 28, 2009.  Seaspan Greg coming up the Fraser River passing Princess Jacqueline at Deas Pacific Marine on September 27, 2008.  Both photos copyright Mirrlees |
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Post by FNS on Jul 29, 2009 23:26:52 GMT -8
I have a soft spot in my heart for that ship. I have seen her so many times down here on Puget Sound in the 1970s. She would ferry rail cars into a rail slip in Seattle. My guess in what she ferried was dangerous cargo that should be kept off the main tracks between Vancouver and Seattle.
I think that the SEASPAN GREG also paid Seattle a visit as well during that time. The Doris and the Greg where built for and operated by a company called "F.M. Yorke & Sons Ltd". Here is a YouTube video of someone's home movie of the launch of the ships Lorne Yorke and Greg Yorke.- the 1964 Greg Yorke launch starts at 7:03 of the movie. It's launched at Allied's old location on the south-shore of False Creek. I'm thrilled to have found this on YouTube. Awesome history, of a busy shipyard and a launched ship that we can see on Georgia Strait today. I don't think it gets much better than this, for us ship enthusiasts! Hey, Mr. Musical Moderator, you really hit the highest major chord on this one! The False Creek location of Allied was where my late grandfather (my mom's dad) worked for many years before moving to San Diego to work on many new fishing vessels down there. He would be very thrilled to find out that someone has dug up this film and put it on the web, just for me to watch one of his launches. We had some neat discussions on how the GREG was built and that they put that "finished" deckhouse onto the Main Deck by a big crane. It's almost like what we see at FSG on their RORO ships. Many thanks for posting this! |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 30, 2009 21:58:49 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 30, 2009 22:02:30 GMT -8
Seaspan Doris bridge, from port side:  --------- Seaspan Challenger pusher-tug, and barge: - sailing from Nanaimo to Tillbury.   |
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Post by Neil on Jul 30, 2009 22:31:09 GMT -8
I mentioned this some time ago, and Mr Horn's photos point out again that Seaspan appears to maintain their vessels' paint a lot better than BC Ferries. All of these boats were built in the '70s or earlier, but you just never see the major rust streaks that you do on the 'people's carrier'.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 1, 2009 20:55:57 GMT -8
Seaspan Greg (ex Greg Yorke) - photo taken from a Route-30 evening sailing, near Tsawwassen.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 27, 2009 13:21:16 GMT -8
Seaspan's Nanaimo terminal. Formerly the CP dock, where I boarded the Princess of Vancouver in the 1970's.  |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 6, 2009 19:00:36 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Sept 6, 2009 21:14:23 GMT -8
WOW! That SEASPAN DORIS really looks great!!!! The people who run her really know how to take care of her, even if she's a freighter. By the way, I think she was enroute to the freight terminal next to the public BCF terminal at Swartz Bay. As said previously, she did trips to Seattle in the 1970s and really looked neat here on Puget Sound as she is up there in BC. To the people who run the SEASPAN DORIS, a high accolade on your attention in superb maintenance of this ship!! Now, I wish BCF and WSF could do the same on the public ferries. The HYAK's appearance is embarrassing!  |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 6, 2009 21:36:39 GMT -8
WOW! That SEASPAN DORIS really looks great!!!! The people who run her really know how to take care of her, even if she's a freighter. By the way, I think she was enroute to the freight terminal next to the public BCF terminal at Swartz Bay. As said previously, she did trips to Seattle in the 1970s and really looked neat here on Puget Sound as she is up there in BC. To the people who run the SEASPAN DORIS, a high accolade on your attention in superb maintenance of this ship!! Now, I wish BCF and WSF could do the same on the public ferries. The HYAK's appearance is embarrassing! They must have painted her recently. She was spotless, except for a tiny, barely noticable stain under the wheelhouse |
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Post by princessofvanfan on Sept 18, 2009 22:08:25 GMT -8
I remember when the Carrier Princess sailed for the CPR alongside Princess of Vancouver between Nanaimo and Vancouver, and carried passengers and cars in the summer. Is there anyone out ther who sailed on her during this time?
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 19, 2009 14:10:14 GMT -8
I believe she carried cars quite infrequently as the Carrier Princess was relegated to rail car and trailer cargo.
The passenger accomodation, if that's what it could be called was frightful. A small coffee bar that looked like it had been chopped out of a dilapidated five and dime store.
CP, never really kept the passenger areas all that spiffy, as they never really saw the Carrier as a passenger ship, certainly not kept up to the standards of Canadian Pacific Coast Steamships. Mygawd, Chief Stewards aboard the CP Coastal Ships and that includes the Princess of Vancouver would have cringed at the difference in the level of the so-called 'passenger service' offered on the cattle barge.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 20, 2009 11:29:39 GMT -8
I remember when the Carrier Princess sailed for the CPR alongside Princess of Vancouver between Nanaimo and Vancouver, and carried passengers and cars in the summer. Is there anyone out ther who sailed on her during this time? For me, sadly "No". I wish I would have. The photo opportunity of passing the P.o.V. would have been good. |
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