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Post by Neil on May 19, 2012 21:44:36 GMT -8
The industry of Norris, Barron and others puts people like Rob Krieger to shame.
I don't know if there are any cartoonists like them still working today. We're the poorer for it.
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Post by dave2 on May 19, 2012 21:59:51 GMT -8
One final cartoon, not ferry related... other than the gulls. The collection also includes cartoons about renaming Foul Bay to Gonzales Bay, building a new Airport, building a new University, and the absurdities of road construction... (that last one is timeless of course... " you can't reopen this hole until we've finished repaving it"... timeless) Attachments:
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Post by piglet on May 20, 2012 6:29:17 GMT -8
In a semi ferry related item I remember a front page spread with an shot from the air of the Royal Oak interchange with the headline "do you know the way to Pat Bay" about the same time (1966?) of the song "do you know the way to san jose". Once sat down and wrote (rewrote) the song to go with that lol.
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Post by WettCoast on May 20, 2012 7:39:26 GMT -8
These Barron cartoons are just great. If there are more please post them. Sid Barron was one of Canada's best editorial page cartoonists. I had no idea that he once worked on the west coast for the Victoria Times. I remember him as a Toronto based cartoonist - the Star, or the G&M, I think. I also remember Vancouver Sun cartoonists Len Norris, and more recently Roy Peterson. They were good. In the Victoria papers there was Bob Bierman in the Times*. Today, there is Adrian Raeside, who is, I think, currently the best editorial page cartoonist on the west coast of Canada. And he has had over the years many excellent ferry related cartoons to boot. www.harbourpublishing.com/title/NoSailingWaits#* I was for several years in the 1960's a Victoria Daily Times newspaper carrier, delivering papers on route 'S-2' in the Gordon Head area near U-Vic. The Times was the afternoon daily - its slogan 'Today's News Today'. (The Colonist was the morning paper.) This was well before the Times & the Colonist were merged into one newspaper. I would typically not start delivering papers until after I had checked out the Bierman cartoon on page four. How many other members here were once newspaper carriers? |
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Post by dave2 on May 20, 2012 11:37:00 GMT -8
The Raeside collection looks like a must have... next breakdown 4:00, LOL. Not for sale onboard, I'd imagine. Barron left Victoria in '61 (says en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Barron) and worked for the Toronto Star. I scanned all the ferry related cartoons (but not all the seagull related cartoons); I don't want to stray too far off topic while still an 'oiler'. There might be something in the Norris books. |
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 9, 2012 22:14:14 GMT -8
Here's a real blast from the past. Someone has restarted John H's old Ferry Terminal website that he had on Geocities. It's more or less a time capsule that was preserved before all of Geocities was deleted from Yahoo about 4 years ago. Anyways, us veteran members will really appreciate this. Even the newer members might appreciate having a look as well. www.reocities.com/ferries_bc/index.html |
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Post by dave2 on Oct 28, 2013 22:45:21 GMT -8
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Post by dave2 on Nov 22, 2013 4:51:02 GMT -8
 January 6 1962, Vancouver Sun Page 2. Black Ball: Out. B.C. Ferries:In and on page 15 ...coming soon, the City of Vancouver.  (Hmm.... Municipality of Saanich? Township of Esquilmalt?) |
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Post by Variable Pitch on Nov 22, 2013 6:15:18 GMT -8
The Queen of Victoria and Vancouver were originally named City of Victoria and Vancouver when they were originally launched in '61/'62. The way you have worded your post hints you believe there was a typo. There was not.
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Post by dave2 on Nov 22, 2013 7:16:54 GMT -8
The Queen of Victoria and Vancouver were originally named City of Victoria and Vancouver when they were originally launched in '61/'62. The way you have worded your post hints you believe there was a typo. There was not. Yes, I can see my post could be read that way. BTW, I don't like the new ferry names. (and by that, I mean Coastal whatever they are)  |
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Post by compdude787 on Nov 22, 2013 23:19:29 GMT -8
I love how, fifty years ago, BC Ferries was often called "Bennett's Navy!" I've always liked that nickname.
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Post by Starsteward on Nov 23, 2013 11:38:31 GMT -8
'W.A.C'. must surely be turnin' in his grave at what's become of his "Navy".
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2013 18:53:56 GMT -8
Here's a 1969 edition of the BC Ministry of Highways "Road Runner" newsletter. Take a look at all the ferry detail, on the various pages. - even the fine detail, such as the photo of Captain Ashe who transferred from the Chemainus route (Ethel Hunter) to the Francois Lake route. ...or go straight to the final page, and see the properly-credited sketch artwork by our friend. H E R E |
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Post by princessofvanfan on Dec 14, 2013 23:37:44 GMT -8
Here's a 1969 edition of the BC Ministry of Highways "Road Runner" newsletter. Take a look at all the ferry detail, on the various pages. - even the fine detail, such as the photo of Captain Ashe who transferred from the Chemainus route (Ethel Hunter) to the Francois Lake route. ...or go straight to the final page, and see the properly-credited sketch artwork by our friend. H E R EInteresting stuff. |
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Post by Starsteward on Dec 16, 2013 13:20:40 GMT -8
The Road Runner was a terrific news-providing vehicle that kept employees of the Ministry of Highways up to date on the goings-on at that particular ministry. Employees, I believe,felt a 'connection' to their department and their colleagues in it. I'm not sure if The Road Runner is still being published given all the changes in how government departments operate these days, however old issues remain a treasure trove of interesting stories and photos that become more valuable now, especially with the passage of time. Great sketch of the Langdale Queen by David Thorne, ex-QPR  Bringing up the 16 pages of that particular issue I was read the article referenced by Flugel Horn,then went on to discover a very interesting photo story on the emergency fire fighting at sea performed by A watch, Queen of Prince Rupert. On the same page but unrelated to the fire story shows a photo of the late Captain Gerald Ruddick on the bridge of the 'Rupert', along with Chief Officer Eric Coombes and Third Officer Gordon Cockroft. The following page held another surprise photo of Captain Ruddick and Radio Officer Bob Barrie receiving an award from William Mackie, former Victoria Weather Officer and Mr. Wesley Black, Highways Minister,for outstanding weather reporting during 1968. The cover photo of this issue is an interesting shot of the early days of the Kelsey Bay terminal. |
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Post by dave2 on Jan 5, 2014 23:48:49 GMT -8
October 25 19 <mumble> Attachments:
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 6, 2014 9:14:12 GMT -8
The date would likely be late in 1978 or early 79 as the article refers to the construction of the 4th & 5th C-class vessels, and the stretching of the three Powell River class vessels and we know when that happened. The Oak Bay municipal council must have made a more convincing argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 11:20:24 GMT -8
The date would likely be late in 1978 or early 79 as the article refers to the construction of the 4th & 5th C-class vessels, and the stretching of the three Powell River class vessels and we know when that happened. The Oak Bay municipal council must have made a more convincing argument. I'm thinking the article is from about 1975. It mentions, "if the council of North Cowichan has its way," which is likely referring to the construction of the First Gen. C Class. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 6, 2014 12:47:30 GMT -8
I'm thinking the article is from about 1975. It mentions, "if the council of North Cowichan has its way," which is likely referring to the construction of the First Gen. C Class. No, Bill Bennett did not become premier until late in 1975, & by then the First 3 C-class vessels were nearing completion. In fact they were already named by that time. Further, it is known that the Powell River class vessels were stretched in the late 1970's ('79 I believe). Re-read the linked article above, the last paragraph in particular. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 6, 2014 14:32:16 GMT -8
I'm thinking the article is from about 1975. It mentions, "if the council of North Cowichan has its way," which is likely referring to the construction of the First Gen. C Class. Chemainus is a settlement within the incorporated municipality of "District of North Cowichan." The District of North Cowichan includes the urban/residential area at Chemainus as well as the urban area surrounding the very tiny City of Duncan. It's a large sprawling municipal district, geographically speaking. So the North Cowichan council (which represents the area of Chemainus) would have been lobbying for one of the final 2 C-Class ships (which would be named Oak Bay or Surrey) to have been named "Queen of Chemainus." ---------------- Municipally speaking, the North Cowichan and Duncan relationship is a bit silly, with "competing" fire departments within a block of each other. - Over 100 years ago, there was a debate over rural/urban issues, and the people that wanted to preserve a non-rural downtown core decided to break-off and create the separate small City of Duncan. Most of the businesses that you see on the highway in the north part "Duncan" are actually in the Municipality of North Cowichan. And most of the developments that you see in the south part of Duncan along the highway are actually in Cowichan Tribes. North Cowichan (which is an incorporated municipality, not a regional district) includes the settlements/areas of Chemainus, Crofton, and the urban area that almost surrounds the tiny city of Duncan. |
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Post by dave2 on Jan 7, 2014 8:56:43 GMT -8
I'm thinking the article is from about 1975. It mentions, "if the council of North Cowichan has its way," which is likely referring to the construction of the First Gen. C Class. Chemainus is a settlement within the incorporated municipality of "District of North Cowichan." The District of North Cowichan includes the urban/residential area at Chemainus as well as the urban area surrounding the very tiny City of Duncan. It's a large sprawling municipal district, geographically speaking. So the North Cowichan council (which represents the area of Chemainus) would have been lobbying for one of the final 2 C-Class ships (which would be named Oak Bay or Surrey) to have been named "Queen of Chemainus." ---------------- Municipally speaking, the North Cowichan and Duncan relationship is a bit silly, with "competing" fire departments within a block of each other. - Over 100 years ago, there was a debate over rural/urban issues, and the people that wanted to preserve a non-rural downtown core decided to break-off and create the separate small City of Duncan. Most of the businesses that you see on the highway in the north part "Duncan" are actually in the Municipality of North Cowichan. And most of the developments that you see in the south part of Duncan along the highway are actually in Cowichan Tribes. North Cowichan (which is an incorporated municipality, not a regional district) includes the settlements/areas of Chemainus, Crofton, and the urban area that almost surrounds the tiny city of Duncan. Some of my srapbooks are falling apart, the rest of the date (it would be 78 or 79) is on a loose page somewhere. I remember thinking naming one of the new ferries "Queen of Chemainus" was highly unlikely. Queen of Oak Bay Inaugural Voyage June 13 1981 -- My sister-in-law's father worked at Yarrows, that was the last ferry he worked on before he retired. The Corporation of the Township of Chilliwhack April 26, 1873 The Corporation of the Township of Langley April 26, 1873 The Corporation of the District of North Cowichan June 18, 1873 Electric Streetlights? Macadamized Roads?. What will the other new C class be named? Queen of Langley? There's already a Queen of Surrey.... and who knows what will happen to her?  |
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Post by Neil on Jan 13, 2014 18:20:29 GMT -8
Just looking over some of the older posts in this thread... there is so much stuff that really belongs in other threads that have been added since this grab-bag was introduced- for instance, a shot of the earliest incarnation of the Horseshoe Bay terminal. Has our master thread-herder thought of sifting some posts into more appropriate places... or perhaps he is way ahead of me, and already has. This forum is so well organized now, I'm not sure this thread is a good idea anymore.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 13, 2014 18:28:11 GMT -8
Just looking over some of the older posts in this thread... there is so much stuff that really belongs in other threads that have been added since this grab-bag was introduced- for instance, a shot of the earliest incarnation of the Horseshoe Bay terminal. Has our master thread-herder thought of sifting some posts into more appropriate places... or perhaps he is way ahead of me, and already has. This forum is so well organized now, I'm not sure this thread is a good idea anymore. Oh the shame. haha, I had thought of tackling this grab-all thread. Good idea: I'm on it. The easy ones will get moved first. - it's those pesky "4 different things in 1 post" items that will take some time to break apart. ============== We'll keep this thread for general old items, such as old Dolphin magazines, which cover a multitude of ships and topics. |
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Post by dave2 on Jan 13, 2014 22:41:57 GMT -8
Just looking over some of the older posts in this thread... there is so much stuff that really belongs in other threads that have been added since this grab-bag was introduced- for instance, a shot of the earliest incarnation of the Horseshoe Bay terminal. Has our master thread-herder thought of sifting some posts into more appropriate places... or perhaps he is way ahead of me, and already has. This forum is so well organized now, I'm not sure this thread is a good idea anymore. Oh the shame. haha, I had thought of tackling this grab-all thread. Good idea: I'm on it. The easy ones will get moved first. - it's those pesky "4 different things in 1 post" items that will take some time to break apart. ============== We'll keep this thread for general old items, such as old Dolphin magazines, which cover a multitude of ships and topics. I can't even find things on my HD that I've recently posted to "Old Newsletters and Ads - general items" or was it .... |
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