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Post by Retrovision on Apr 24, 2006 13:28:31 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Aug 13, 2008 11:42:14 GMT -8
Considering the Island Princess, I just had this curious thought about what her interior was like back when she was the old inter-island cargo ship/ferry. Of course she had four staterooms, but I wonder what her other amenities might have been, if any. Certainly, i would think her interior spaces might have been a little more appealing and soft than the molded plastic seating she has in her current configuration. We've never had a photo of the Langdale Queen's interior on this forum, and I would also love to see the Island Princess's layout. I'm pretty certain they had a food service, and I'd be intrigued to see what those little staterooms would have been like. Hard to imagine a lounge, coffee bar, and four staterooms on a boat that size. A few more from the Salt Spring Archives, all Galiano shots.... Don't know if this was perhaps an unusual shot; the Princess of Nanaimo, who usually sailed from Vancouver to Nanaimo, this time entering Active Pass.  If there are no passengers on the deck, the PRINCESS OF NANAIMO may have been on a deadhead run from Vancouver to Victoria for winter layup, maintenance, or to Esquimalt for drydocking. Otherwise , she may have been subbing for one of the other PRINCESS ships. My guess. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 24, 2009 16:11:19 GMT -8
Some of you have asked about the photo that is currently my 'sig'. Here is a larger version:  [DOT collection]The photo is taken at the CP Princess docks in Victoria in the late 1950's, just before the birth of BC Ferries. You can see the Princess of Nanaimo & the Princess Elaine (on left). Both of these Princesses are 'special' in Nanaimo's maritime history. Also visible is one of the 'newer' twin funnelled Princesses, likely the Marguerite, but I can't say for sure. There is also what looks to be a CP tug, and a single funnelled smaller passenger vessel in behind. Victoria harbour was a pretty busy place in those days. This is BC Govt photo, taken for what I believe was known as the 'Dept. of Travel Industry' at the time. In other words the photo was likely taken for the purpose of tourism promotion. I wonder if the photographer had any idea of the revolution in BC coastal transportation that was just about to begin. If this photo is from 1959, then it would be interesting to step ashore and walk along the road just in behind the Princess of Nanaimo. If we walked west (to the right in the photo) we would, in a kilometre or so, come to a shipyard, called VMD (Victoria Machinery Depot). There, we would find, under construction, a vessel for the Govt of BC that was to be named the M/V Sidney. A larger version of the above photo is linked here. In the large version you can see, way off in the distance, a construction crane on top of a building. The transformation of Victoria's James Bay district was beginning. |
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 24, 2009 18:42:37 GMT -8
JST... thanks for this image. I really like how it shows a good stern view of several vessels. Somehow, the sterns of ships always seem somewhat more interesting with so many little crevices, openings, concealed doorways formed by the lines of the superstructure forming as they sweep around towards the stern of the ship, as well as the ladders, deck machinery and machinery housings that make the shot full of interest.
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Post by FNS on Jan 26, 2009 9:04:51 GMT -8
Some of you have asked about the photo that is currently my 'sig'. Here is a larger version: [DOT collection]The photo is taken at the CP Princess docks in Victoria in the late 1950's, just before the birth of BC Ferries. You can see the Princess of Nanaimo & the Princess Elaine (on left). Both of these Princesses are 'special' in Nanaimo's maritime history. Also visible is one of the 'newer' twin funnelled Princesses, likely the Marguerite, but I can't say for sure. There is also what looks to be a CP tug, and a single funnelled smaller passenger vessel in behind. Victoria harbour was a pretty busy place in those days. This is BC Govt photo, taken for what I believe was known as the 'Dept. of Travel Industry' at the time. In other words the photo was likely taken for the purpose of tourism promotion. I wonder if the photographer had any idea of the revolution in BC coastal transportation that was just about to begin. If this photo is from 1959, then it would be interesting to step ashore and walk along the road just in behind the Princess of Nanaimo. If we walked west (to the right in the photo) we would, in a kilometre or so, come to a shipyard, called VMD (Victoria Machinery Depot). There, we would find, under construction, a vessel for the Govt of BC that was to be named the M/V Sidney. A larger version of the above photo is linked here. In the large version you can see, way off in the distance, a construction crane on top of a building. The transformation of Victoria's James Bay district was beginning. My guess for the tri-city steamer is the PRINCESS PATRICIA. If you can PM me a higher resolution photo, I might be able to read her name better. The whistles are obscured by the stacks. If they are high, that's the PATRICIA. The other single stack ship should be the PRINCESS LOUISE. You are right on the PRINCESS ELAINE and PRINCESS OF NANAIMO. |
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 24, 2010 12:29:08 GMT -8
Down here at Point Roberts I don't have access to my files in order to upload to imageshack in order to display an image ahead of a link, but fortunately just learned of a way to easily do this through my flickr account itself. That being said, here are a couple of ones that I've already uploaded...  Princess of Nanaimo at Nanaimo by indyinsane, on Flickr  Victoria's Inner Harbour with the CPR's BCCSS & Black Ball Terminals by indyinsane, on Flickr For this last one, I have a fairly good idea which vessels those are at the Inner Harbour, but would appreciate confirmation by some of the more knowledgeable members of our forum. - Late Edit: For larger versions, click the image, then the '+' sign on the photo page, and for and even larger view then click the 'all sizes' link. |
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Post by mrdot on Aug 24, 2010 14:30:42 GMT -8
further memories flooding back from my youth, the pic. of the old cpr nanaimo dock with the princess of nanimo at the dock, reminds me of the trip our family did from this same dock & ship over to our grandparents on river road here in delta. It was quite a trip in those days up the island from victoria, then over to vancouver and winding over to delta, this was long before the new tsawwassen ferry route was established. we did the trip on the old cpr route and a few years later did the same trip on the old black ball service on the very venerable old kahloke, the same ship I worked years later as Langdale Queen! mr.dot.
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Post by Kam on Sept 20, 2010 0:12:23 GMT -8
Here is a postcard I purchased off of e-bay :-)  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 19, 2011 9:52:47 GMT -8
Various BC Coast Service items seen at the Royal BC Museum in Victoria: - the bell of the Princess Victoria:  - nice little keepsake  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 4, 2011 9:13:02 GMT -8
A new thread for this old ship.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 5, 2011 16:51:59 GMT -8
:)that's a great post card image of Princess of Nanaimo at her Nanaimo berth in the late 1950's. while an interesting design, the CPR was retaining dated British channel packet layouts, and Black Ball was using new roll on roll off technology not far away at Departure Bay. Ironacally it was a 1903 rebuilt Kaloke that was her main compition, along with a more modern 1947 Chinook! :)mrdot.
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Post by mrdot on Nov 8, 2011 9:01:12 GMT -8
:)Princess of Nanaimo at old pier BC, and mrdot's memories! In my very youthful years I remember the trip over to Nanaimo from the old piers, and Victoria day boat, either Patricia, or Margurete! great posts by eg fleet, I've got to start mining my mountain of memorabilia! :)mrdot.
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Post by dave2 on Nov 14, 2013 17:47:20 GMT -8
The Princess of Acadia (Nanaimo) at the 2:15 mark.
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Post by Mill Bay on Nov 15, 2013 10:36:59 GMT -8
The Princess of Acadia (Nanaimo) at the 2:15 mark. Talk about not seeing the forest for one tree. That video was full of trains, and we were waiting for a few second clip of one ship. Really nice video of a lot of stuff that will never been seen again, and it appears there was a competition between the ships and the trains to see which one could make the blackest smoke. |
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Post by dave2 on Nov 22, 2013 4:46:30 GMT -8
"That video was full of trains"... Sorry, my bad  Of course, the trains were the reason I googled up the video; the Princess of Nanaimo/Acadia was a nice bonus |
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 20, 2014 8:05:55 GMT -8
This is a neat little brochure in any case, but adding to it being a find is all the interior photos included. It has full schedules for all the sailings for the summer sailing schedule, including fares. Seattle to Victoria, (with auto) round trip was $13.00 with auto. Hitting Dollartimes.com's inflation calculator, that translates to $113.46 in today's dollars. Vancouver to Nanaimo with a car was $5.00 ($43.64 today). They also list WSF's connecting routes--Seattle to Winslow for car and driver was $1.50 ($13.09 now) and .90 ($7.85)from Lofall to South Point to head to Port Angeles to hop on either the Princess Joan or Princess Elizabeth. Round trip from Port Angles to Victoria with a car was $10.00 or $87.28 today.     Port Angeles-Victoria was being served by the Princess Joan or Princess Elizabeth. Seattle-Victoria-Vancouver: Princess Marguerite & Princess Patricia, though it also lists the Joan and Elizabeth. Vancouver-Nanaimo is listed as the Princess of Nanaimo, Princess Joan or Elizabeth and the Princess Marguerite or Patricia. Vancouver-Gulf Islands-Sidney route was being held down by the Princess Elaine.From April 26-September 26 1953 CP was offering a special "One Day Excursion" to Victoria via a "Princess Line" steamship, leaving at 8:00 AM and arriving Victoria at 11:50. It would then depart Victoria at 4:30 PM and arrive back in Seattle at 8:30. The price was $4.50 plus tax, or roughly $39.27 today. |
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Post by mrdot on Dec 20, 2014 14:47:48 GMT -8
:)always a treat to assemble more material on this late in the day Princess, which seemed so obsolete when put up against the competing re-configured Kaloke which was of course rebuilt out of the almost anchent Asbury Park/City of Sacrmento. CP was building fine vessels, that rapidly became redundent! :)mrdot.
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Post by Starsteward on Dec 20, 2014 22:54:06 GMT -8
:)always a treat to assemble more material on this late in the day Princess, which seemed so obsolete when put up against the competing re-configured Kaloke which was of course rebuilt out of the almost anchent Asbury Park/City of Sacrmento. CP was building fine vessels, that rapidly became redundent! :)mrdot. Sad but truly spoken there mrdot.
Interesting to note the boarder crossing documentation required by Americans and Canadians back in the early '50's. How that has changed as well. Yes, the re-built Black Ball ships and the new ships of BC Ferries did move vehicles and freight much easier than did the CP Ships, BUT: Damn those old girls were classy...SHIPS, with classy service to match. |
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Post by Neil on Dec 20, 2014 23:25:53 GMT -8
:)always a treat to assemble more material on this late in the day Princess, which seemed so obsolete when put up against the competing re-configured Kaloke which was of course rebuilt out of the almost anchent Asbury Park/City of Sacrmento. CP was building fine vessels, that rapidly became redundent! :)mrdot. Sad but truly spoken there mrdot.
Interesting to note the boarder crossing documentation required by Americans and Canadians back in the early '50's. How that has changed as well. Yes, the re-built Black Ball ships and the new ships of BC Ferries did move vehicles and freight much easier than did the CP Ships, BUT: Damn those old girls were classy...SHIPS, with classy service to match. But... were the Princess of Nanaimo and Princess of Vancouver really so obsolete and poorly designed? Is that why CP lost the 'battle of the strait'?
Seems to me the contest was being played out on a rather unlevel playing field. After BC Ferries started operating in 1960, you had the private company, CP, trying to compete with the provincially owned and subsidized operation... both charging $5.00 for a car and $2.00 for a passenger, between Vancouver and Nanaimo.
Yes, the two CP vessels would have been more efficient if they were bow and stern loading like the government boats, but I'm not sure design was the only reason for CP withdrawing from the passenger business.
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Post by EGfleet on May 17, 2015 6:04:00 GMT -8
I haven't had time to clean the dust off this one in PSE yet, but thought I'd share. Nice sunny shot of the Nanaimo.  |
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Post by Mike on May 17, 2015 11:30:07 GMT -8
That looks to be Nanaimo harbour, with Newcastle & Protection Island in the background.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 17, 2015 11:47:33 GMT -8
That looks to be Nanaimo harbour, with Newcastle & Protection Island in the background. I love that view. I stand in the same spot to take photos of the same islands and modern day marine traffic. This photo was taken from the 1950s CPR terminal, now the Cameron Island condo walkway. |
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Post by FNS on Jun 29, 2015 5:02:14 GMT -8
Here's a photo I've acquired recently of the PRINCESS OF NANAIMO:   |
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 1, 2016 8:42:28 GMT -8
Slide shot I recently picked up. I liked this one as it showed off the Princess of Nanaimo pretty well, along with the CP terminal. I like the Princess of Nanaimo, but she lacked a certain elegance that her earlier sisters had...there is something a little clunky about that design. I'd still take her over just about any modern design these days, but she just wasn't as pretty as the older vessels.  |
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Post by Starsteward on Jun 1, 2016 8:51:16 GMT -8
Slide shot I recently picked up. I liked this one as it showed off the Princess of Nanaimo pretty well, along with the CP terminal. I like the Princess of Nanaimo, but she lacked a certain elegance that her earlier sisters had...there is something a little clunky about that design. I'd still take her over just about any modern design these days, but she just wasn't as pretty as the older vessels. Great photo of the old CRP terminal. Must agree, she isn't as graceful looking as some of her predecessors. What an era we enjoyed back then with all the great CP/CN/Union ships. |
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Of course, the trains were the reason I googled up the video; the Princess of Nanaimo/Acadia was a nice bonus
