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Post by WettCoast on Aug 8, 2015 10:12:33 GMT -8
You make it sound like we aren't as safe as BCF... I'd have to watch a departure up your way to see what the differences are, if any; I'm told BCF's safety management program was based off of ours, but there may or may not be truth to that. But, for starts, we don't have all the shenanigans that come with dual-ramp loading. Absolutely no concerns on my part about your safety procedures, relative to BC Ferries. I've just noticed the lack of ceremony with which you get into and out of dock. A few years ago I was on the Chelan between Sidney, Friday Harbor & Anacortes, and I came away with the same impression. They seemed to approach the dock at a good speed & then 'brake hard' using reverse thrust from the bow prop. It works, however. I think in recent years BCFs' vessels have crunched a few docks while WSF's hasn't crunched any that I can recall. Perhaps the problem is the reliance on so much electronics on board the BCF vessels? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 13:18:58 GMT -8
Has anyone ever docked at slip 2 at Winslow?
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 19, 2015 13:35:24 GMT -8
Has anyone ever docked at slip 2 at Winslow? Plenty of times. It's not that unusual for them to use Slip 2. In fact, you already responded to Snowy Ferries about using Slip 2 in this very thread, so I think you have already answered your question. |
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Post by evergreentransit on Apr 26, 2023 20:45:04 GMT -8
This thread shall be revived from the dead with some earthshattering news:
For construction reasons, this run will be passenger only from September 7th to 13th.
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 9, 2024 6:53:12 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on May 17, 2024 7:53:24 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 7, 2024 15:35:22 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule.
Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 8, 2024 8:35:05 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule. Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that. Edmonds-Kingston needs the Jumbo tunnel space for the commercial traffic bound for and from the Olympic Peninsula. |
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Post by Luke on Oct 9, 2024 9:11:03 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule. Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that. OTP on the Bainbridge route has been a problem for as long as I can recall- since long before the Chimacum became a mainstay there. The Bainbridge-Seattle schedule hasn't seen a major overhaul since 2003- and a lot has changed since then. Boats are running slower, traffic patterns have changed, infrastructure on both sides of the route has changed. The simple fact is that the 21-year old schedule is no longer an accurate reflection of the capabilities of the route, and no amount of vessel repositioning is going to fix that. |
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Post by northwesterner on Oct 9, 2024 20:04:31 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule. Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that. What is the service speed on the Olympic class. I know the stated top speed is 1kt slower than the Supers, but at normal operating speed are they close? Or slower? |
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 10, 2024 2:46:58 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule. Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that. What is the service speed on the Olympic class. I know the stated top speed is 1kt slower than the Supers, but at normal operating speed are they close? Or slower? That's what most of my thoughts were, that the Chimacum is definitely slower and comes around at 16 knots on most trips, while the Tacoma regularly runs 18-19. I didn't really notice this issue with delays when there were other boats there, so I don't think it's out of the question to think that's one of the driving factors in delays. |
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 10, 2024 6:09:33 GMT -8
OTP on the Bainbridge route has been a problem for as long as I can recall- since long before the Chimacum became a mainstay there. The Bainbridge-Seattle schedule hasn't seen a major overhaul since 2003- and a lot has changed since then. Boats are running slower, traffic patterns have changed, infrastructure on both sides of the route has changed. The simple fact is that the 21-year old schedule is no longer an accurate reflection of the capabilities of the route, and no amount of vessel repositioning is going to fix that. Hearing this makes me glad I don't use that route anymore. I was a regular commuter from 2002 to 2011 and during that time period the vessels were mostly on time, unless there was a breakdown, and pretty much always a JMII. If a vessel swap needed to happen that involved one of the JMII's, they would bring Puyallup in and shift a smaller boat elsewhere. I think Walla Walla subbed in once or twice but it was rare. Now it seems smaller boats are the norm at Bainbridge, not the exception. Times have certainly changed. |
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 12, 2024 8:11:35 GMT -8
Kind of a random thought today, but was wondering if anybody has had any repeated experience with the poor performance of the Seattle/Bainbridge route recently, re: the Chimacum's inability to keep the schedule. Feels like both boats are repeatedly delayed by 30-50+ minutes every afternoon, as early as Noon on some days. I know there isn't really a great solution here with such limited vessel availability, any thoughts as to whether something like an Edmonds boat swap would be likely as we move away from summer? Just my take on that. What is the service speed on the Olympic class. I know the stated top speed is 1kt slower than the Supers, but at normal operating speed are they close? Or slower? I can only vouch for the islands, where the Samish may not be outright faster, but averages less time dock-to-dock than the Yakima (and Kaleetan, IIRC). Some of this time may be accounted for during the docking process, as the Olympics are more manuverable than the Supers... telegraph docking is a vanishing art. A quick snapshot shows the Samish westbound at a steady 15.8 knots and the Yakima at 15.3 eastbound, slowly accelerating. |
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 12, 2024 8:12:57 GMT -8
OTP on the Bainbridge route has been a problem for as long as I can recall- since long before the Chimacum became a mainstay there. The Bainbridge-Seattle schedule hasn't seen a major overhaul since 2003- and a lot has changed since then. Boats are running slower, traffic patterns have changed, infrastructure on both sides of the route has changed. The simple fact is that the 21-year old schedule is no longer an accurate reflection of the capabilities of the route, and no amount of vessel repositioning is going to fix that. Hearing this makes me glad I don't use that route anymore. I was a regular commuter from 2002 to 2011 and during that time period the vessels were mostly on time, unless there was a breakdown, and pretty much always a JMII. If a vessel swap needed to happen that involved one of the JMII's, they would bring Puyallup in and shift a smaller boat elsewhere. I think Walla Walla subbed in once or twice but it was rare. Now it seems smaller boats are the norm at Bainbridge, not the exception. Times have certainly changed. See aforementioned overheight traffic remark, plus the desire to keep the WW at Bremerton as much as possible while they are on one-boat service. |
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Post by northwesterner on Oct 12, 2024 8:50:23 GMT -8
Hearing this makes me glad I don't use that route anymore. I was a regular commuter from 2002 to 2011 and during that time period the vessels were mostly on time, unless there was a breakdown, and pretty much always a JMII. If a vessel swap needed to happen that involved one of the JMII's, they would bring Puyallup in and shift a smaller boat elsewhere. I think Walla Walla subbed in once or twice but it was rare. Now it seems smaller boats are the norm at Bainbridge, not the exception. Times have certainly changed. See aforementioned overheight traffic remark, plus the desire to keep the WW at Bremerton as much as possible while they are on one-boat service. In addition to those two aforementioned considerations, there is also presumably less walk-on commute traffic during AM and PM weekday rush hours than pre-COVID on Seattle-BI. I seem to recall that for much of the 00s and 2010s if Puyallup wasn't available as the second JMII, they would sub in a Super rather than a Jumbo due to greater passenger capacity. That said, I ended up on Kitsap a year ago on a Sunday before a Seahawks game and that was sub-optimal from a passenger capacity standpoint. |
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 14, 2024 13:51:45 GMT -8
See aforementioned overheight traffic remark, plus the desire to keep the WW at Bremerton as much as possible while they are on one-boat service. In addition to those two aforementioned considerations, there is also presumably less walk-on commute traffic during AM and PM weekday rush hours than pre-COVID on Seattle-BI. I seem to recall that for much of the 00s and 2010s if Puyallup wasn't available as the second JMII, they would sub in a Super rather than a Jumbo due to greater passenger capacity. That said, I ended up on Kitsap a year ago on a Sunday before a Seahawks game and that was sub-optimal from a passenger capacity standpoint. The last couple of years have been a bit of a scramble, I admit. |
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