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Post by Curtis on Jun 11, 2015 21:45:19 GMT -8
BTW: C class aren't going to route 1. As far as I know they've been banned from the pass since the 80s. New West wouldn't work on route 3 either, due to her turnaround time. What if New West went to 30, Alberni went to 3, Surrey to 2, and Renascence to 1? Also, what is the reason the C-Class is banned from Active Pass? Answering your first question: The New West actually was a regular on Route 30 with the Alberni prior to the Coastal Inspiration's arrival. In reality, Karl is right on, she should still be running Route 30 and the Inspiration should be on Route 1, but the Inspiration carries more commercial traffic which equals more money in BC Ferries' eyes, so don't expect that to change any time soon. Your other 3 suggestions are moot though since the Alberni is not suited for any Route other than Route 30 due to her smaller passenger cabin (it's even too small for Route 30) and her status as an overheight ferry. Plus, Route 3 passengers sure wouldn't be thrilled about losing the Queen of Surrey for the Alberni... Onto your second question: I don't think the 'C's are actually banned from transiting Active Pass, BC Ferries just chooses not to use them on Route 1 for whatever reason. The 'C' Class not being able to run Route 1 goes back to the Queen of Alberni running aground in Active Pass in 1979. The 'C's did run on Route 1 after the grounding of course, but by the 1990s, all the 'C's were running on either Route 2, 3, or 30. While Active Pass and the Alberni Grounding are the primary reasons the 'C's don't run Route 1 anymore, perhaps there were other factors... Maybe the amount of passenger space on the 'C's was just inadequate for Route 1, or maybe they just preferred using them on Routes 2 and 3 because the 'V' and 'B' Class vessels had to back quite far out of Horseshoe Bay to turn around, who knows?
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Post by Kam on Jun 11, 2015 22:27:08 GMT -8
What if New West went to 30, Alberni went to 3, Surrey to 2, and Renascence to 1? Also, what is the reason the C-Class is banned from Active Pass? Maybe the amount of passenger space on the 'C's was just inadequate for Route 1, or maybe they just preferred using them on Routes 2 and 3 because the 'V' and 'B' Class vessels had to back quite far out of Horseshoe Bay to turn around, who knows? I can't remember where I read it (likely here many years ago) but the C's are required to run in mode 2 while transiting active pass to ensure sufficient maneuverability. (This rule came about after the Alberni grounding). Running in mode 2 makes the transit slower and uses much more fuel.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 11, 2015 22:41:46 GMT -8
I don't know if there is any reason that the New West could not sub for the Surrey (during its refit) on route 3. The vehicle capacity is less but that shouldn't be an issue at lower demand levels common during most of 'refit season'. Furthermore, the New West's speed ought to be able to meet the route 3 schedule without much, if any, modification.
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Post by roeco on Jun 16, 2015 16:15:57 GMT -8
I don't know if there is any reason that the New West could not sub for the Surrey (during its refit) on route 3. The vehicle capacity is less but that shouldn't be an issue at lower demand levels common during most of 'refit season'. Furthermore, the New West's speed ought to be able to meet the route 3 schedule without much, if any, modification.The New West could very well sub for route 30.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 17, 2015 22:58:54 GMT -8
Paul Zankich's Chelan and Phil Spaulding's Queen of New Westminster. - separated by Coal Island, but still running together for a short time. DSCF1079 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr And a closer look DSCF1081 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr - seen from Mt. Maxwell on Salt Spring Island, on evening of July 14, 2015.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 18, 2015 18:43:01 GMT -8
Queen of New Westminster views from Baynes Peak on Mt. Maxwell, on Salt Spring Island. - July 14/15, 2015 On her 4:00pm sailing from Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay: - nearing the northern end of Portland Island DSCF1023 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr - nearing Swartz Bay DSCF1042 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr --- On her 6:00pm sailing from Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen: - with Carrier Princess DSCF1098 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr - with Queen of Cumberland DSCF1110 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ------------------ Morning of July 15, 2015: - a washed-out trio of Cumberland, New Westminster and Skeena DSCF1517 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ================== Not a great shot of QNW, but here she is in Swartz Bay's berth-2, with Chelan visible over the hill in the background DSCF1059 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 2, 2015 12:36:46 GMT -8
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 13, 2015 10:21:52 GMT -8
This is from the July-August 1964 Marine West magazine.
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Post by translinkfan on Sept 25, 2015 11:13:44 GMT -8
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Post by Luke on Oct 3, 2015 20:30:53 GMT -8
Two videos I shot aboard the New West last Sunday, for your viewing pleasure.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Oct 27, 2015 21:13:30 GMT -8
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Post by Mike on Nov 12, 2015 23:43:41 GMT -8
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 21, 2015 20:32:12 GMT -8
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Post by Curtis on Nov 28, 2015 8:37:37 GMT -8
A new whistle recording of the New West!
Next Whistle: The Coastal Renaissance.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 3, 2015 16:22:01 GMT -8
Since I started doing walkthroughs, I've gotten a number of requests over the years to do one particular vessel. Today I finally fulfill those requests.
On a side note, there are quite a number of passenger service announcements throughout this walkthrough. Next Week's Walkthrough: Coastal Renaissance.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 29, 2015 10:32:28 GMT -8
An almost monochrome shot of the Queen of New Westminster, seen here off the Mayne Island shoreline near Helen Point (Active Pass) while north bound with the 10 AM sailing from Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen - 27 December 2015. © WCK-JST by Jim Thorne, on Flickr
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 29, 2015 22:13:18 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 5, 2016 21:17:14 GMT -8
thinking about this whole Queen of Burnaby issue and the ship swaps was just wondering could the Queen of New West dock at Sturdies Bay Village Bay Otter Bay and Long Harbor?? I know a V class has docked at Village Bay in the late 90's or could the New West dock at Little River and Powell River?? I bet she could do the crossing in like an hour, lol! They dont need the New West's capacity on those routes but having that ship either do the Gulf Islands or Powell River would keep the Island Sky at Saltery Bay and the Nip and Texada and not disrupt the schedules.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 5, 2016 22:05:06 GMT -8
thinking about this whole Queen of Burnaby issue and the ship swaps was just wondering could the Queen of New West dock at Sturdies Bay Village Bay Otter Bay and Long Harbor?? I know a V class has docked at Village Bay in the late 90's or could the New West dock at Little River and Powell River?? I bet she could do the crossing in like an hour, lol! They dont need the New West's capacity on those routes but having that ship either do the Gulf Islands or Powell River would keep the Island Sky at Saltery Bay and the Nip and Texada and not disrupt the schedules. What is the story with the Spirits now, Karl. I presume one is in refit & the other is laid up. The laid up one could do the extra weekend route 1 trips to free up the QNWM for other duty. On the other hand, the QNWM today is a substantially different beast than its old B-class siblings. Subbing it to either Long Harbour or Little River is probably not possible as crews who normally work the Nanaimo or Burnaby would not be sufficiently trained/ familiarized with the much updated B-class that is the New West today.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 5, 2016 22:19:49 GMT -8
I dont really know what is up with the Spirit's right now. I know they usually have refits in the New Year but usually it is one at a time. I think the New West is only subbing for like two or three weekends then the SOVI will be back first. Well I dont mean as far as crew training whether she could do those routes I mean yes the crews would need to be trained but can she actually fit the docks up there and in the Gulf Islands??
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Post by Kahn_C on Jan 5, 2016 23:02:42 GMT -8
She would most likely fit fine in the new Powell River and Comox berths, but the living out costs for her crew would be crazy high. No idea about the Gulf Islands; probably depends on what shape all the dock hardware is in.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 5, 2016 23:04:24 GMT -8
I dont really know what is up with the Spirit's right now. I know they usually have refits in the New Year but usually it is one at a time. I think the New West is only subbing for like two or three weekends then the SOVI will be back first. Well I dont mean as far as crew training whether she could do those routes I mean yes the crews would need to be trained but can she actually fit the docks up there and in the Gulf Islands?? If the Burnaby & Nanaimo fit into those berths just fine, then I see no reason that the New West wont fit in just the same. They have the same profiles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 23:43:53 GMT -8
The Spirit of BC is in refit for the next three months (back for Easter), while the SOVI is in refit for this month only.
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Post by gordon on Jan 6, 2016 7:16:29 GMT -8
The Queen Of New West is one of the oldest ships in the fleet, When is she likey to be replaced?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 6, 2016 7:23:37 GMT -8
The Queen Of New West is one of the oldest ships in the fleet, When is she likey to be replaced? 2021 - this is per a 2012 vessel replacement chart. This was the first of 4 in a group to be replaced between 2021 and 2024 (New West, Alberni, Coquitlam, Cowichan) This might be delayed by a few years, or might not happen as was thought in 2012.
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