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Post by roeco on Aug 3, 2017 14:34:57 GMT -8
vancouversun.com/news/local-news/salish-raven-to-go-into-service-early-on-southern-gulf-islands-ferry-runThis article has a bit more detail. Tl;dr - it appears they're actually still trying to fix the Nanaimo but even if it's repaired it'll be a reserve vessel. I'm hesitant to criticize BC Ferries, who I have criticized a lot in past for lack of contingency, for getting the Nanaimo back on line. But it just makes so little sense to me. Is there a clause that's it's been sold in operational condition. I'm not much of a conspiracy thearist, but there is a contingency vessel - the Bowen Queen. It worked. I think her only saving grace right now is they have the Burnaby for spare parts...lol
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Post by Charles on Aug 9, 2017 15:51:45 GMT -8
(Sorry about the bad quality photos, I only have my iPhone 5c) Snatched up some pics from Deas FMU just off the Massey tunnel. Also saw the Queen of Burnaby but didn't get anything of her. Attachments:
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Post by Neil on Aug 9, 2017 20:13:21 GMT -8
(Sorry about the bad quality photos, I only have my iPhone 5c) Snatched up some pics from Deas FMU just off the Massey tunnel. Also saw the Queen of Burnaby but didn't get anything of her. In cases like this, I think you just have to say, okay, I can't take a picture, and let it go.
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Post by mybidness459 on Aug 10, 2017 9:25:35 GMT -8
A picture is a picture and I appreciate the effort, no matter how crappy it may be. Thanks.
And in general We have to keep in mind also that in some cases not everyone on this board can afford a good camera.
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Post by Neil on Aug 10, 2017 20:44:24 GMT -8
A picture is a picture and I appreciate the effort, no matter how crappy it may be. Really? "A picture is a picture"? I appreciate the expertise and the eye and the effort that many of this forum's photographers put forth, and that's something that has developed over the fourteen years of the WCFF. While I appreciate a photo of a noteworthy occurrence even if the equipment and composition aren't the best, I don't think it's harsh or unreasonable to suggest that if you're in a speeding car and the subject of your shot really isn't visible, maybe you should just wait for a better opportunity to post.
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 15, 2017 9:55:44 GMT -8
A picture is a picture and I appreciate the effort, no matter how crappy it may be. Really? "A picture is a picture"? I appreciate the expertise and the eye and the effort that many of this forum's photographers put forth, and that's something that has developed over the fourteen years of the WCFF. While I appreciate a photo of a noteworthy occurrence even if the equipment and composition aren't the best, I don't think it's harsh or unreasonable to suggest that if you're in a speeding car and the subject of your shot really isn't visible, maybe you should just wait for a better opportunity to post. It's like videos taken of Bigfoot, you either believe or you don't, and you never quite get the real picture.
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 16, 2017 22:53:15 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Aug 17, 2017 3:01:51 GMT -8
I'll call this confirmation official when I see her blip changed from QUEEN OF NANAIMO to LOMAIVITI PRINCESS V (MMSI 316001254 and IMO 6404375, subject to change) on ship tracking sites. It's interesting to note that all of Goundar's "odd numbered" ships are from Canada. The even ones from other lands. Just wondering how long this trend would continue?
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 17, 2017 18:53:31 GMT -8
Seeing a worn out 53 years old vessel designed for operation on protected near coast waters going to Fiji is not something to be celebrated. This looks just possibly like a disaster waiting for a time & a place. At least the QPR had some ability to function on rough seas.
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Post by Neil on Aug 17, 2017 21:15:24 GMT -8
Seeing a worn out 53 years old vessel designed for operation on protected near coast waters going to Fiji is not something to be celebrated. This looks just possibly like a disaster waiting for a time & a place. At least the QPR had some ability to function on rough seas. Absolutely agree. We have to differentiate between our fan impulses- who wants to see a revered vessel scrapped- and a concern about what is acceptable in third world countries that don't have our resources to supply safe transportation options. Thank goodness the ex-' Rupert and ex-' Chilliwack have so far served without incident. Doesn't make it a good idea to have the 52 year old ' Nanaimo, a boat designed for sheltered waters, sailing the open Pacific. Feels a bit scary to even write that.
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Post by Mike on Aug 17, 2017 21:47:00 GMT -8
Seeing a worn out 53 years old vessel designed for operation on protected near coast waters going to Fiji is not something to be celebrated. This looks just possibly like a disaster waiting for a time & a place. At least the QPR had some ability to function on rough seas. Absolutely agree. We have to differentiate between our fan impulses- who wants to see a revered vessel scrapped- and a concern about what is acceptable in third world countries that don't have our resources to supply safe transportation options. Thank goodness the ex-' Rupert and ex-' Chilliwack have so far served without incident. Doesn't make it a good idea to have the 52 year old ' Nanaimo, a boat designed for sheltered waters, sailing the open Pacific. Feels a bit scary to even write that. 100% agree with both of you. Even with my fondness for the the ' Nanaimo, I was hoping she would be sold to a scrapyard. I would prefer that to her possibly ending her life as part of a maritime disaster.
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 18, 2017 9:54:15 GMT -8
Absolutely agree. We have to differentiate between our fan impulses- who wants to see a revered vessel scrapped- and a concern about what is acceptable in third world countries that don't have our resources to supply safe transportation options. Thank goodness the ex-' Rupert and ex-' Chilliwack have so far served without incident. Doesn't make it a good idea to have the 52 year old ' Nanaimo, a boat designed for sheltered waters, sailing the open Pacific. Feels a bit scary to even write that. 100% agree with both of you. Even with my fondness for the the ' Nanaimo, I was hoping she would be sold to a scrapyard. I would prefer that to her possibly ending her life as part of a maritime disaster. The news that Goundar Shipping will purchase the 'Queen of Nanaimo' comes as an intriguing surprise. 'IF', the announcement in the Fiji Sun isn't some sort of 'fake news', I am totally baffled by the $2.5 million 'investment dollars' Mr. Goundar reports he will lay out for this phase of his fleet's expansion. Something is very 'conka wonka' with this $2.5 million dollar outlay. What all is he buying? We know that the 'Burnaby' is being offered at $350K. and that might not be a great bargain given the age, and condition, and noted major mechanical problems the old girl possesses. There must be more to this story that hasn't been disclosed. Could it be that BC Ferries is going to undertake major repairs/system upgrades to the 'Nanny', especially addressing the recurring prop problems she's had and goodness only knows what other major issues she's been secretly sailing with?. BCFS will do the work and bill the purchaser? That $2.5 M is for SOMETHING(S) of a major nature! Ludicrous to contemplate that maybe much needed repairs are done to the 'Burnaby' and she's thrown into the deal too? Nah... The delivery trip from here to Fiji in October could be very calamitous given the keel and draught of this inland waterway vessel. All prom deck windows would have to be steel plated, the vehicle deck doors, fore and aft would need welded steel reinforcements, as well as every hawse hole, vent plugged solid. Unseasonal nasty storms can and do occur in the Pacific Ocean, and could spell dire trouble for the 'Nanny' and crew. IF the 'Nanny' is indeed going west, let's hope she doesn't meet the same as fate suffered by the 'Suzy Q', (who had been welded shut etc) but sank from the ravages of a fierce Pacific storm while under tow by deep sea tug on her way to the cutting torches.
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Post by roeco on Aug 18, 2017 16:11:48 GMT -8
I would think selling the Nanaimo and Burnaby together as a package deal would make the most sense, but who knows!
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 18, 2017 21:03:08 GMT -8
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Post by Luke on Aug 18, 2017 22:43:02 GMT -8
After three attempts, last April, I got myself a successful walkthrough tour of the Queen of Nanaimo. And now, four months later, I finally got around to editing and posting it. For anyone who wants to re-live the experience of wandering around the venerable old queen, this video is for you.
===== The Nanaimo was a terrific ship. I'll miss her... Hopefully her future in Fiji will be a safe and smooth one.
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Post by Mike on Aug 19, 2017 8:05:36 GMT -8
The Queen of Nanaimo has just limped into the terminal to complete its last 'in service' run for BC Ferries while the Salish Orca waits to take over - 27 July 2017 That's the Salish Eagle, not the Orca beside the Nanaimo.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 19, 2017 8:26:53 GMT -8
The Queen of Nanaimo has just limped into the terminal to complete its last 'in service' run for BC Ferries while the Salish Orca waits to take over - 27 July 2017 That's the Salish Eagle, not the Orca beside the Nanaimo. Of course, you are right ...
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Post by timmyc on Aug 20, 2017 9:53:48 GMT -8
The news that Goundar Shipping will purchase the 'Queen of Nanaimo' comes as an intriguing surprise. 'IF', the announcement in the Fiji Sun isn't some sort of 'fake news', I am totally baffled by the $2.5 million 'investment dollars' Mr. Goundar reports he will lay out for this phase of his fleet's expansion. Something is very 'conka wonka' with this $2.5 million dollar outlay. What all is he buying? So Fiji uses their own dollar, which has an exchange rate of 1 FJD = 0.63 CAD. $1.57m is still, of course, a lot of money for acquiring a 52-year old vessel.
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Post by jaws on Aug 20, 2017 20:21:16 GMT -8
Spoke to Goundar last week while he was in Vancouver, He think he got a good deal knowing the high standard that BC Ferries keeps its vessel,that is why he made the deal. Also he is looking for volunteer crew deck and engineering to sail with the Fijian crew of 18, I think its a good experiences for sailors needing deep sea time. the deal is a week in 5 star hotel in Fiji Island all paid for and return fare. He is waiting for BC ferries to give him the ok date to handover the vessel
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 21, 2017 5:18:57 GMT -8
Spoke to Goundar last week while he was in Vancouver, He think he got a good deal knowing the high standard that BC Ferries keeps its vessel,that is why he made the deal. Also he is looking for volunteer crew deck and engineering to sail with the Fijian crew of 18, I think its a good experiences for sailors needing deep sea time. the deal is a week in 5 star hotel in Fiji Island all paid for and return fare. He is waiting for BC ferries to give him the ok date to handover the vessel Thanks for the update jaws. Interesting and tempting offer for volunteers. Setting up crew accommodations on the 'Nanny' will be an interesting exercise as she has limited permanent cabins with washroom facilities etc. That may be the least of the crew's worries as, unlike the previous two delivery trips, I can't shake an ominous feeling I have about this one. Count me in for the send-off party but taking the old girl across the briny deep of the Pacific in the next few months? No thanks.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Aug 22, 2017 11:11:16 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo has become mast-less over last two weeks.
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Post by mybidness459 on Aug 22, 2017 16:25:39 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo has become mast-less over last two weeks. Maybe she will be trailing behind her younger sister en route to the scrap yard after all...not bound for Fiji. Why on earth would the mast be removed if she would see active service in Fiji. Me thinks she like the Burnaby she is down for the count and Finished. Sad to admit 😅
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Post by Alberni on Aug 22, 2017 18:34:30 GMT -8
I just drove by on my way home and noticed the snails on the funnel have been painted over.
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Post by jaws on Aug 22, 2017 21:06:14 GMT -8
I think you are talking about the Burnaby ,which has its Mast and funnel painted
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Post by FNS on Aug 22, 2017 23:38:42 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo has become mast-less over last two weeks. Maybe she will be trailing behind her younger sister en route to the scrap yard after all...not bound for Fiji. Why on earth would the mast be removed if she would see active service in Fiji. Me thinks she like the Burnaby she is down for the count and Finished. Sad to admit 😅 I have one thought for the mast removals. Could they be thinking of swapping the BURNABY's enclosed midships lounge structure over to the NANAIMO, giving the Fijians an added indoor lounge rather than an open air one for people to get deaf from the whistles? They could measure about an inch up from the deck on each structure and make the precision cut all around the base of these. Their base dimensions should all be the same on both ferries. They could then restore the mast on the NANAIMO afterwards. My thought.
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