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Post by pacificcat99 on Jun 13, 2020 20:07:36 GMT -8
Guess the Burnaby is the last survivor after all...
Interesting that it was costing 10k/day to maintain the LMV 5. Guess those engines that were not in great shape to begin with and included the cannibalized Burnaby Engines just couldn't quite hold up to the Fijian Waters.
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Post by Neil on Jun 13, 2020 20:58:31 GMT -8
Guess the Burnaby is the last survivor after all... Interesting that it was costing 10k/day to maintain the LMV 5. Guess those engines that were not in great shape to begin with and included the cannibalized Burnaby Engines just couldn't quite hold up to the Fijian Waters. I wouldn't call the ' Burnaby the survivor. The ex-' Nanaimo has been sailing, at least sporadically, while the only activity the ' Burnaby has seen is being towed a mile downstream on the Fraser, and back. I'm just happy that Goundar's use of these sheltered waters vessels in the open Pacific didn't result in catastrophe.
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Post by northwesterner on Jun 13, 2020 21:02:26 GMT -8
I'm just happy that Goundar's use of these sheltered waters vessels in the open Pacific didn't result in catastrophe. As he alluded to in that article... his fleet was in good shape compared to the competition.
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Post by Neil on Jun 13, 2020 21:04:56 GMT -8
I'm just happy that Goundar's use of these sheltered waters vessels in the open Pacific didn't result in catastrophe. As he alluded to in that article... his fleet was in good shape compared to the competition. So he says. Standards are frighteningly different in the developing world.
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Post by northwesterner on Jun 13, 2020 21:37:57 GMT -8
As he alluded to in that article... his fleet was in good shape compared to the competition. So he says. Standards are frighteningly different in the developing world. I've spent more time than I'd like to admit on modes of transportation in the developing world that I wouldn't think of setting foot on back home. Yes, these were the wrong vessels for the service Gounder was using them on. But with only a set of bad options, I'd take the least bad, which is probably his fleet.
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Post by pacificcat99 on Jun 21, 2020 18:21:27 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Jul 20, 2020 22:13:44 GMT -8
Lomaiviti Princess 1, 3, and 5 moored in Suva, February 2019. Thank you for sharing this photo with us, Bill!
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Post by FNS on Jul 21, 2020 3:51:47 GMT -8
Lomaiviti Princess 1, 3, and 5 moored in Suva, February 2019. Thank you for sharing this photo with us, Bill! If you look closely at the midships of the LP5 (QUEEN OF NANAIMO), you'll see a sheet of plain steel in the open air lounge. There might be open berths inside this new enclosed area for the crew.
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Post by cbachmeier on Dec 19, 2020 13:25:05 GMT -8
Here is a scanned film negative of MV Queen of Nanaimo either departing or arriving at Tsawwassen Terminal on November 8th, 2002. My Grandparents took this picture. image2 by Chase Bachmeier, on Flickr
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Post by pacificcat99 on Jan 1, 2021 23:25:34 GMT -8
Found an interesting video on youtube (family video blog) but the second half involves taking a trip on the Lomavati Princess (Nanny). Other than some rust and a new paint job it doesn't look much different than when it was in BC.
Anyone have updates about it being sold for scrap?
Enjoy the video and happy new year!
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 2, 2021 0:18:40 GMT -8
I am glad that BC Ferries doesn’t have first class on most vessel. I am very happy that BC Ferries allow passengers to keep on their shoes on the inside of vessel. I am shock that she looks awful condition.
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 2, 2021 13:19:37 GMT -8
Found an interesting video on youtube (family video blog) but the second half involves taking a trip on the Lomavati Princess (Nanny). Other than some rust and a new paint job it doesn't look much different than when it was in BC. Anyone have updates about it being sold for scrap? Enjoy the video and happy new year! Once again we are reminded of the 'great divide' between North American standards and the developing world. And yet we complain about the most mundane issues eh?
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Post by Neil on Jan 4, 2021 21:15:46 GMT -8
Found an interesting video on youtube (family video blog) but the second half involves taking a trip on the Lomavati Princess (Nanny). Other than some rust and a new paint job it doesn't look much different than when it was in BC. Anyone have updates about it being sold for scrap? Enjoy the video and happy new year! Once again we are reminded of the 'great divide' between North American standards and the developing world. And yet we complain about the most mundane issues eh? I'm thinking that the 'first class' designation given to the lounge where the young mother and her kids were sleeping on the floor amidst industrial strength snoring was due to things being, as she appreciatively remarked, very clean. She was sailing on a vessel never designed for the open seas, and I'm just thankful that none of the old BC Ferries rustbuckets purchased by Goundar have produced a marine tragedy. You're right, Starsteward, despite many inequities in our part of the world, we are at times pretty complacent about privileges and standards that many people elsewhere can only dream about.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jan 4, 2021 21:31:43 GMT -8
Once again we are reminded of the 'great divide' between North American standards and the developing world. And yet we complain about the most mundane issues eh? I'm thinking that the 'first class' designation given to the lounge where the young mother and her kids were sleeping on the floor amidst industrial strength snoring was due to things being, as she appreciatively remarked, very clean. She was sailing on a vessel never designed for the open seas, and I'm just thankful that none of the old BC Ferries rustbuckets purchased by Goundar have produced a marine tragedy. You're right, Starsteward, despite many inequities in our part of the world, we are at times pretty complacent about privileges and standards that many people elsewhere can only dream about. Complacent enough that BCFerries has let how many old rust buckets go to Figi, now, without too much remorse for where they are going and how they are going to operated. What would the other options be? Rebuild and refit them for continued use in BC waters to ensure they continued operating safely, or simply cut them up in Ensenada? Did anyone notice a glimpse of the former Queen of Chilliwack in the background? A 14 hour crossing on the Queen of Nanaimo? How many of us might on here have romanticized such a notion only a couple years ago? I found a comparison video of the ferry from Viti Levu to Vanua Levu, Figi. Operations seem interesting. This ship even has enclosed lifeboats, but is it more a less safe and seaworthy than the Goundar rust buckets?
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Post by Neil on Jan 4, 2021 22:26:26 GMT -8
I'm thinking that the 'first class' designation given to the lounge where the young mother and her kids were sleeping on the floor amidst industrial strength snoring was due to things being, as she appreciatively remarked, very clean. She was sailing on a vessel never designed for the open seas, and I'm just thankful that none of the old BC Ferries rustbuckets purchased by Goundar have produced a marine tragedy. You're right, Starsteward, despite many inequities in our part of the world, we are at times pretty complacent about privileges and standards that many people elsewhere can only dream about. Complacent enough that BCFerries has let how many old rust buckets go to Figi, now, without too much remorse for where they are going and how they are going to operated. What would the other options be? Rebuild and refit them for continued use in BC waters to ensure they continued operating safely, or simply cut them up in Ensenada? Did anyone notice a glimpse of the former Queen of Chilliwack in the background? A 14 hour crossing on the Queen of Nanaimo? How many of us might on here have romanticized such a notion only a couple years ago? I found a comparison video of the ferry from Viti Levu to Vanua Levu, Figi. Operations seem interesting. This ship even has enclosed lifeboats, but is it more a less safe and seaworthy than the Goundar rust buckets? Mill Bay (Ernie)... glad to see you checking in... sorry that you're still suffering. Thanks for that video. It looks like Fiji is served by an eclectic collection of, umm... vintage ferries. Not ideal from an operational or safety standpoint, but definitely interesting to the ferry fan in me.
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Post by paulvanb on Jan 8, 2021 16:09:25 GMT -8
Once again we are reminded of the 'great divide' between North American standards and the developing world. And yet we complain about the most mundane issues eh? I'm thinking that the 'first class' designation given to the lounge where the young mother and her kids were sleeping on the floor amidst industrial strength snoring was due to things being, as she appreciatively remarked, very clean. She was sailing on a vessel never designed for the open seas, and I'm just thankful that none of the old BC Ferries rustbuckets purchased by Goundar have produced a marine tragedy. You're right, Starsteward, despite many inequities in our part of the world, we are at times pretty complacent about privileges and standards that many people elsewhere can only dream about. I think many of us would be intrigued by a self-propelled garbage scow advertised as a ferry!
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Post by Starsteward on Feb 6, 2021 17:09:20 GMT -8
Does anyone know the state of the Queen of Nanaimo (now Lomaiviti Princess V) right now? Has it been scrapped? Is it sitting at Goundar Shipping doing nothing? Is it still in service? I 'believe' it is still in the active Goundar fleet.
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Post by firewolf95 on Nov 28, 2021 23:59:54 GMT -8
Does anyone know the state of the Queen of Nanaimo (now Lomaiviti Princess V) right now? Has it been scrapped? Is it sitting at Goundar Shipping doing nothing? Is it still in service? I 'believe' it is still in the active Goundar fleet. First comment on here for me, I'm just curious about her wellbeing in the open tropical waters. It has been a while since she left our coast.
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Post by Neil on Nov 29, 2021 9:54:29 GMT -8
I 'believe' it is still in the active Goundar fleet. First comment on here for me, I'm just curious about her wellbeing in the open tropical waters. It has been a while since she left our coast. You can check on the various ex-BC Ferries vessels in the Goundar thread in the foreign part of the Forum. the ' Nanaimo does not appear to be in Goundar's current fleet.
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Post by shark on Feb 2, 2022 19:40:03 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo finally has been sold to India, the vessel is getting surveyed and all the paper works for the sale was done last week. The vessel will be departing in 3 weeks, just waiting for some of its Fijian crew are in states for vessel inspection. It will be using one engine only due to CPP problem. Its has serves its time in Fiji and finally going to the chopping yard I spoke to Goundar and as he has been a well know person in Fiji for the past 10 year. Goundar shipping has a fleet on 12 ferries and he is going to Japan to look at the Hydro foils . As per Goundar he will be the person sailing it all the way to India, it will take 40 days ,a stop over in Singapore for bunker. He tried to get parts on the CPP from BCF but it was turn down. As per Goundar the scrap metal price are very Good as he is also planning to sell QPR and Chilliwack this year
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Post by Ollie on Feb 2, 2022 20:07:17 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo finally has been sold to India, the vessel is getting surveyed and all the paper works for the sale was done last week. The vessel will be departing in 3 weeks, just waiting for some of its Fijian crew are in states for vessel inspection. It will be using one engine only due to CPP problem. Its has serves its time in Fiji and finally going to the chopping yard I spoke to Goundar and as he has been a well know person in Fiji for the past 10 year. Goundar shipping has a fleet on 12 ferries and he is going to Japan to look at the Hydro foils . As per Goundar he will be the person sailing it all the way to India, it will take 40 days ,a stop over in Singapore for bunker. He tried to get parts on the CPP from BCF but it was turn down. As per Goundar the scrap metal price are very Good as he is also planning to sell QPR and Chilliwack this year
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Post by Neil on Feb 2, 2022 22:08:51 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo finally has been sold to India, the vessel is getting surveyed and all the paper works for the sale was done last week. The vessel will be departing in 3 weeks, just waiting for some of its Fijian crew are in states for vessel inspection. It will be using one engine only due to CPP problem. Its has serves its time in Fiji and finally going to the chopping yard I spoke to Goundar and as he has been a well know person in Fiji for the past 10 year. Goundar shipping has a fleet on 12 ferries and he is going to Japan to look at the Hydro foils . As per Goundar he will be the person sailing it all the way to India, it will take 40 days ,a stop over in Singapore for bunker. He tried to get parts on the CPP from BCF but it was turn down. As per Goundar the scrap metal price are very Good as he is also planning to sell QPR and Chilliwack this year Why would Goundar be taking the vessel to India himself? I thought he was an engineer, not a master. I'm surprised at the remark about scrap metal prices being high... I thought the reason why so much tonnage was languishing unused and undisposed of was the low value of scrapped steel. That's one reason why the ex- Queen of Burnaby is sitting near Fanny Bay rather than the boneyards of Ensenada. I guess it's good that these vessels are going to scrap, particularly since none of the three are fit for the open ocean. Hopefully Goundar is assembling a more suitable fleet. Welcome to the Forum, 'shark'.
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Post by Starsteward on Feb 3, 2022 15:39:01 GMT -8
Queen of Nanaimo finally has been sold to India, the vessel is getting surveyed and all the paper works for the sale was done last week. The vessel will be departing in 3 weeks, just waiting for some of its Fijian crew are in states for vessel inspection. It will be using one engine only due to CPP problem. Its has serves its time in Fiji and finally going to the chopping yard I spoke to Goundar and as he has been a well know person in Fiji for the past 10 year. Goundar shipping has a fleet on 12 ferries and he is going to Japan to look at the Hydro foils . As per Goundar he will be the person sailing it all the way to India, it will take 40 days ,a stop over in Singapore for bunker. He tried to get parts on the CPP from BCF but it was turn down. As per Goundar the scrap metal price are very Good as he is also planning to sell QPR and Chilliwack this year Why would Goundar be taking the vessel to India himself? I thought he was an engineer, not a master. I'm surprised at the remark about scrap metal prices being high... I thought the reason why so much tonnage was languishing unused and undisposed of was the low value of scrapped steel. That's one reason why the ex- Queen of Burnaby is sitting near Fanny Bay rather than the boneyards of Ensenada. I guess it's good that these vessels are going to scrap, particularly since none of the three are fit for the open ocean. Hopefully Goundar is assembling a more suitable fleet. Welcome to the Forum, 'shark'. Mr. Goundar would have to provide a certified crew, including a Master with a deep-sea ticket. Goundar could act as Chief Engineer and they would require an engine room crew. Goundar would also have to provide certified Quartermasters and deck hands. The Indian scrapyards never provide delivery crews for vessels arriving on the shores of Alang, etc. They just stand on the beach near the smoky flares that indicate where they want you to aim for the 'beaching' of the doomed vessel and drop the anchor that has been substantially lowered toward the end of the voyage. When it comes to 'favourite vessels', my hope would be that they sink enroute, obviously with no loss of crew life but I'd rather see a ship on the bottom than cut to pieces by the poor wretches at places like Alang, India.
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Post by shark on Mar 10, 2022 20:56:17 GMT -8
Just got news from Fiji today, EX Queen of Nanaimo departs on Tuesday for India, Bunker will be done in Singapore sailing on one engine 20 days to Singapore then 13 days to Alang India . Crew of 14 Fijian crew will be sailing it, final sea run due tomorrow Sat in Fiji
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Post by paulvanb on Mar 10, 2022 21:26:31 GMT -8
Just got news from Fiji today, EX Queen of Nanaimo departs on Tuesday for India, Bunker will be done in Singapore sailing on one engine 20 days to Singapore then 13 days to Alang India . Crew of 14 Fijian crew will be sailing it, final sea run due tomorrow Sat in Fiji A sad, but not unexpected demise.
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