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Post by Ferryman on Apr 7, 2022 5:56:56 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen is now en route to Deas
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Post by Neil on Apr 7, 2022 7:25:09 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen is now en route to Deas ...likely her last trip ever under her own power.
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Post by Ollie on Apr 7, 2022 7:38:58 GMT -8
Bowen Queen visiting Deas Dock, April 7 2022
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Post by Ollie on Apr 7, 2022 9:15:07 GMT -8
Bowen Queen has arrived at Deas dock. What will happen to it now?
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Post by Mike on Apr 7, 2022 10:22:51 GMT -8
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Post by lselena53 on Apr 8, 2022 15:39:03 GMT -8
This old ship means a lot to me personally. My parents were among the first passengers the Bowen Queen ever carried in 1965 and I was nearly born on board ... well it turned out to be another ten hours or so, but something got my Dad all worked up enough that he went up to the bridge and warned the captain of my mother's condition. The captain got on the radio to the Queen of Nanaimo and told them to stay put while he got my mother ashore. Am sure he was very glad of a reason to trump "the Nanaimo boat" for docking priority!
Have been lucky enough to sail on her many times over the years, most recently as a resident of Gabriola and then Salt Spring. Farewell old friend.
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Post by Curtis on Apr 10, 2022 19:23:28 GMT -8
A collection of shots from my last round trip on the Bowen Queen back in September. Warning: Photo Heavy! All Photos are © CS16 Photography and may only be used with Permission from the Owner.That's All for Now!
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Post by cbachmeier on Apr 11, 2022 13:07:03 GMT -8
As some of you have mentioned the Bowen Queen has retired from service. I only rode on her a couple of times but from what I can remember was the snack bar, that was something that stood out for me. I remember one time we were heading back to the mainland when she was filling in for the Mayne Queen and I'm pretty sure we got ice cream on the ferry, it was several years ago.
As with every BC Ferry she will be missed.
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Post by explorer on Apr 11, 2022 14:01:17 GMT -8
Excellent Photos. - Thanks...
Wonder in 57 years of service how many vehicles and walk ons she has carried? Mind bending.
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 16, 2022 7:27:47 GMT -8
With the retirement of the Bowen Queen, what ship is going to spell off the Cap when she goes in for maintenance?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 16, 2022 7:54:08 GMT -8
With the retirement of the Bowen Queen, what ship is going to spell off the Cap when she goes in for maintenance? Most likely Queen of Cumberland.
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Post by Nick on Apr 16, 2022 12:16:24 GMT -8
With the retirement of the Bowen Queen, what ship is going to spell off the Cap when she goes in for maintenance? I'd guess either Malaspina Sky, Cumberland or Skeena, any of which would be backfilled by a Salish. Or directly replaced by a Salish class.
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 16, 2022 13:05:23 GMT -8
With the retirement of the Bowen Queen, what ship is going to spell off the Cap when she goes in for maintenance? Well, let’s break it down to see where everything is at. Up until the Salish and Island Class came around, the Bowen Queen served on a huge variety of routes. Let’s look at these route’s previously covered by the Bowen and how these were more recently covered without the Bowen: Swartz Bay-Southern Gulf Islands: Salish Class replaces Queen of Cumberland. Bowen would replace the Mayne. Perhaps Quinitsa or another Salish would be deployed to cover Route 5a Swartz Bay to Fulford. Queen of Cumberland would cover for the Skeena and a Salish would cover the Cumberland Vesuvius-Crofton. Quinitsa will now be a relief vessel for this run Tsawwassen to Southern Gulf Islands: Another Salish Class replacement, or traffic rerouted to Swartz Bay Descanso Bay to Nanaimo Harbour: Another Island Class, or Quinitsa Horseshoe Bay-Bowen Island. Previously covered by the Bowen. I could see the Cumberland being sent here because that’s an easy trade, as far as crew training is concerned (sister ship). Saltery Bay-Earls Cove. In recent years this was covered by the Bowen Queen. Could also be covered by the Cumberland as there are some resemblances. Could also be covered by a Salish Class, however not sure what LNG services, if any are available in Powell River, which would be problematic to plan logistics around for a temporary basis Campbell River-Quadra. Will be covered by another Island Class Alert Bay-Sointula-Port McNeil. Likely just continues to be covered by another Island Class, or the QQII
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 16, 2022 19:00:45 GMT -8
Not sure how the Cumberland is with her ramps deployed with overheights? Lots on the Bowen Island run. The gallery decks on the Cap are usually filled right away. (and quickly unloaded)
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Post by Mike on Apr 16, 2022 19:33:58 GMT -8
Not sure how the Cumberland is with her ramps deployed with overheights? Lots on the Bowen Island run. The gallery decks on the Cap are usually filled right away. (and quickly unloaded) I don't see that being an issue since it's pretty unlikely they'd use the Cumberland's ramps on a route with such a short crossing time.
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 16, 2022 19:38:11 GMT -8
Not sure how the Cumberland is with her ramps deployed with overheights? Lots on the Bowen Island run. The gallery decks on the Cap are usually filled right away. (and quickly unloaded) I don't see that being an issue since it's pretty unlikely they'd use the Cumberland's ramps on a route with such a short crossing time. The problem with not using ramps is that more people would be left behind. During the day, the Cap's sailings are usually quite full. I have been close to or being left behind, especially on Wednesdays because of DC sailings.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Apr 16, 2022 19:53:41 GMT -8
The problem with not using ramps is that more people would be left behind. During the day, the Cap's sailings are usually quite full. I have been close to or being left behind, especially on Wednesdays because of DC sailings. The problem with using the ramps is that they are cumbersome and could prove detrimental to on-time performance on Route 8. Besides, even with platform decks stowed the Cumberland can still carry more vehicles than the Bowen ever could.
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 16, 2022 20:05:54 GMT -8
The problem with not using ramps is that more people would be left behind. During the day, the Cap's sailings are usually quite full. I have been close to or being left behind, especially on Wednesdays because of DC sailings. The problem with using the ramps is that they are cumbersome and could prove detrimental to on-time performance on Route 8. Besides, even with platform decks stowed the Cumberland can still carry more vehicles than the Bowen ever could. News flash! This route is never on time most of the time.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Apr 16, 2022 20:23:31 GMT -8
The problem with using the ramps is that they are cumbersome and could prove detrimental to on-time performance on Route 8. Besides, even with platform decks stowed the Cumberland can still carry more vehicles than the Bowen ever could. News flash! This route is never on time most of the time. That doesn't make it prudent to exacerbate the problem. After all, we're only talking about a 15% capacity downgrade for a couple weeks per year. Besides, it could very well prove to be a moot point- while she certainly seems the most likely candidate we don't know for certain that the Cumberland will in fact be the Capilano's refit relief vessel going forward.
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 16, 2022 20:56:37 GMT -8
News flash! This route is never on time most of the time. That doesn't make it prudent to exacerbate the problem. After all, we're only talking about a 15% capacity downgrade for a couple weeks per year. Besides, it could very well prove to be a moot point- while she certainly seems the most likely candidate we don't know for certain that the Cumberland will in fact be the Capilano's refit relief vessel going forward. I do know that the locals were never happy when the Bowen Queen came over as the fill-in. I can just imagine how happy they would be if something smaller showed up. Ah, island life.
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Post by Nick on Apr 18, 2022 6:36:31 GMT -8
That doesn't make it prudent to exacerbate the problem. After all, we're only talking about a 15% capacity downgrade for a couple weeks per year. Besides, it could very well prove to be a moot point- while she certainly seems the most likely candidate we don't know for certain that the Cumberland will in fact be the Capilano's refit relief vessel going forward. I do know that the locals were never happy when the Bowen Queen came over as the fill-in. I can just imagine how happy they would be if something smaller showed up. Ah, island life. The Cumberland without platforms is exactly the same capacity as the Cap was before the gallery decks were added a few years ago. As long as the replacement is done in the off season, it will be fine. The Cumberland is a fair bit bigger than the Bowen.
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 18, 2022 9:32:39 GMT -8
I do know that the locals were never happy when the Bowen Queen came over as the fill-in. I can just imagine how happy they would be if something smaller showed up. Ah, island life. The Cumberland without platforms is exactly the same capacity as the Cap was before the gallery decks were added a few years ago. As long as the replacement is done in the off season, it will be fine. The Cumberland is a fair bit bigger than the Bowen. Also, the platform decks are independently operated on either side of the centre casing. So by using only one side of the platform decks for full loads, leaving the other side clear for over height traffic helps traffic moving a little more smoothly and likely match the capacity of the Capilano.
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Post by Nickfro on Apr 18, 2022 12:06:31 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen was one of my favourite ferries in the fleet. I rode it a number times on the Bowen Island run and a couple times on the Crofton run when it was the relief vessel for those routes. The best times were on the Tsawwassen to SGI summer sailings. The 'couch' on the secluded lower exterior deck was always a great place to sit, and being able to enjoy the scenery from the side of the car deck was a big plus as well. The classic sounds of diesel engines will be missed. . .
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Post by grahamstrangmusic on Jul 31, 2022 22:16:49 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen is being listed for $76,000 on Iron Planet. Apologies if this is old news
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Post by paulvanb on Aug 1, 2022 7:32:50 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen is being listed for $76,000 on Iron Planet. Apologies if this is old news And the Queen of Powell River for $21,000.
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