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Post by WettCoast on Sept 17, 2007 20:35:10 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen - Tsawwassen Terminal - probably dating from 1976 or 77 when she may have been doing relief duty on the Mainland - Gulf islands route, or may have been assigned as a fifth extra vessel on route 1. DOT photoBy the look of that van my guess is the Sechelt Q was doing the Gulf Islands. I was/still am a bit confused by this photo. I thought maybe this is not Tsawwassen. It is the 'Berth 1' sign that has me confused. If this is Tsawwassen surely this is beth 2. I have decided that originally berth 1 & 2 were the other way around. They changed the order when berths 3, 4 & 5 were added a few years later. Does anyone know if this is in fact what happened? Larger size here: i90.photobucket.com/albums/k268/wetcoastkidjst/Ex%20Blackball%20and%20SCQ/570c3a1e.jpg
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Post by Curtis on Sept 18, 2007 16:24:58 GMT -8
Excellent Photo of the Sechelt Queen, Jim. I thought the Sechelt Queen was Moved to the Ministry to Run the Powell River-Comox Route in 1976. Must Have been Prior to that.
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Post by pscurr on Dec 21, 2007 11:29:04 GMT -8
Swartz Bay August 1970 how things have changed at Tsawwassen Terminal circa Summer 1970
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Post by pscurr on Dec 21, 2007 19:13:51 GMT -8
oh you guys are getting to specific..did not notice the vessel in berth 3...looks like the Sechelt Queen, but why would she be there rather than at Long Harbour?
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 21, 2007 19:56:03 GMT -8
Could the vessel in berth 3 be the Sidney or Tsawwassen docked bow-in?
Also, I am pretty sure of the identity of the V at berth 2. Following on our discussions on V's and their history, I will let others jump in here and 'name that V'.
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Post by pscurr on Dec 21, 2007 21:08:53 GMT -8
my guess it is the Sechelt Queen.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 21, 2007 21:15:09 GMT -8
I'm fairly sure that the mystery vessel in berth 3 is the Sechelt Queen. Note that the railings are solid on both the main and upper passenger decks. The structure on the upper passenger back is too close to the stern for it to be the Sidney or Tsawwassen.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 21, 2007 21:36:02 GMT -8
I'd bet my dog on it that it's the Sechelt Queen in berth 3...That is, if I had a dog. Great Photos, "pscurr". Glad to see we have another person with a bunch of Historical BC Ferry Photos. I Like the photo of the Pender Queen.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 22, 2007 7:40:46 GMT -8
I concur with the Sechelt Queen group. Lovely old boat, that, even without her bow...
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 22, 2007 14:55:29 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen for certain, such conference can't be disputed, can it? In any case, I don't think there's a possibility that the stern we see is anything but the ex-Chinook
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Post by Neil on Dec 28, 2007 10:24:32 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen, sliding into Westview, summer '78. and approaching the dock at Little River
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 28, 2007 16:17:23 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen, sliding into Westview, summer '78. and approaching the dock at Little River Oo! Two nice shots of my favorite oldie! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Hardy on Dec 29, 2007 6:12:16 GMT -8
Sechelt Queen, sliding into Westview, summer '78. It is a good comparison to see them in their MoTH livery, as it just really looks SO PLAIN ... BLACK band YELLOW funnel WHITE superstructure BLACK name BLACK hull Just PLAIN ... Historic, but very drab.
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Post by Mill Bay on Dec 30, 2007 17:51:07 GMT -8
I just noticed something that seems odd to me in these photos: On one side she has three lifeboats, and on the other side there is only one. Now, we know from other photos that she was launched with six lifeboats. Can anyone speculate as to the reasons for the lifeboats' mysterious disappearance? Sechelt Queen, sliding into Westview, summer '78. and approaching the dock at Little River
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Post by pscurr on Dec 30, 2007 18:46:15 GMT -8
after 1972, Sechelt Queen arriving at Otter Bay Pender Island
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Post by Northern Exploration on Dec 30, 2007 18:58:05 GMT -8
She was such a sturdy and well built, or so it appeared, ferry. A bit odd looking but she kind of grew on you.
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Post by Neil on Dec 30, 2007 21:32:35 GMT -8
The Sechelt Queen was my favorite old ferry. There's a lineage of modern car ferries built in the 'northwest', that started with her in '47, continued through the Coho, and the Queens of Sidney and Tsawwassen and subsequent Vs and Bs, and ended with the last double enders, the Spirits. A style of ferry that the Chinook started, and which we won't see again.
pscurr's excellent photo shows clearly how the Sechelt Queen had the 'lumpiest' complexion of any ferry I've seen. She was like an actress who you don't want to see without her makeup- her sides and decks were almost cottage cheese like, and I remember the car deck being very uneven also.Don't know if she was always like that, or if she just had really bad acne as a teenager...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 22:31:29 GMT -8
What a nice looking old ferry. I have always wished I could have at least rode on her between Comox - Powell River. I would have loved to see how bumpy the cardeck was and how she was laid out inside. I think her layout must have been very unique! She is definetly my favourite of the old ferries! Mill Bay: I have always noticed that the "Sechelt Queen" only had one life boat when she was with MOTH but I always thought it was just one on each side. So now the photos reveal that she indeed had three on one side and one on the other. Very interesting. My only conculsion for this is that perhaps her passenger capacity was cut when on the Comox-Powell River route?
Now I have a question on the "Sechelt Queen" why is it when BCF owned her she had three windows on each side of the front lounge and when she went over to MOTH those windows were closed up? I have always wondered the reasoning for this. Anyone know why? If you are wonder about the windows I am speaking of take a look at the pics of her pulling into Comox and look at the front lounge and then look at the picture of her coming into Otter Bay and see what I mean.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 30, 2007 22:47:57 GMT -8
Now I have a question on the "Sechelt Queen" why is it when BCF owned her she had three windows on each side of the front lounge and when she went over to MOTH those windows were closed up? I have always wondered the reasoning for this. Anyone know why? If you are wonder about the windows I am speaking of take a look at the pics of her pulling into Comox and look at the front lounge and then look at the picture of her coming into Otter Bay and see what I mean. The two portholes behind the 3 side windows were covered up as well. Also note the bridge wings are different. One thing I've noticed is the box-like structures at the rear of the upper passenger deck. They appear to have been added around the same time the funnel was modified (I haven't seen them in pics where the funnel was shorter).
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Post by Mill Bay on Dec 30, 2007 23:04:41 GMT -8
A passing glance shows that the bridge wings were extended out to-wards the stern, and that some sort of tie-rod was installed running diagonally up from the superstructure to the outer edge of the wings. I would assume this was a support put in place to strengthen the extended wings, but I'm not sure why it would have resulted in blanking out the portholes.
Also, a later photo from Evergreen-fleet's site also shows she did eventually go down to one lifeboat per side on the Comox run. Actually this is one conventional lifeboat per side, because you can see that there is a quite of crowd of those little mechanical-arm type davits that are used for lowering zodiacs and rafts and such. That might also be the reason for the box structures at the stern.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 23:20:28 GMT -8
Well that makes more sense now why they may have covered those windows. I never noticed the box structures on the stern were added after the funnel was raised. There must have been a zodiac in the bridge wings then? Also the side windows on the main passenger deck. Was that some kind of enclosed walkway or did those have glass in them and were a seating area inside that passender cabin? That is one thing I could never figure out.
It looks like she receieved new radar units when she became a MOTH ferry as well!
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 30, 2007 23:34:11 GMT -8
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 31, 2007 8:31:00 GMT -8
As a huge fan of the old Sechelt Queen I have to give you a huge thank you for sharing your photos of her, especially these terrific detailed shots of her. I could just kick myself for not having been aware that she was parked down at Eagle Harbor in the early 90's. I would have taken a few rolls of film of her. Again, thanks for sharing! These are some of the best photos I've ever seen of her.
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Post by pscurr on Dec 31, 2007 19:24:54 GMT -8
the last quiz from the 70's in 2007. Happy New Year! name that ship... and from 37 years ago the american dollar was at par..how things stay the same or change..
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