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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 17, 2018 19:19:27 GMT -8
Victoria Clipper III has been renamed the San Juan Clipper.
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Post by R30A on Jun 18, 2018 8:31:17 GMT -8
That has been the case for a few years now.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 18, 2018 10:07:08 GMT -8
That has been the case for a few years now. When did they rename her?
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Post by compdude787 on Dec 11, 2018 21:38:10 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 10, 2019 21:25:25 GMT -8
What I found interesting was that per King County Metro, starting January 11 through March 27, the 278-seat Doc Maynard and 240-seat San Juan Clipper will operate the Seattle Pier 52 to West Seattle (Seacrest Park) Water Taxi route to facilitate SR99 Viaduct Closure traffic to the city.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 11, 2019 19:06:10 GMT -8
What I found interesting was that per King County Metro, starting January 11 through March 27, the 278-seat Doc Maynard and 240-seat San Juan Clipper will operate the Seattle Pier 52 to West Seattle (Seacrest Park) Water Taxi route to facilitate SR99 Viaduct Closure traffic to the city. Why did King County Metro have to lease a necessary boat, when they already had the M/V Spirit of Kingston?
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Post by northwesterner on Jan 11, 2019 19:28:25 GMT -8
What I found interesting was that per King County Metro, starting January 11 through March 27, the 278-seat Doc Maynard and 240-seat San Juan Clipper will operate the Seattle Pier 52 to West Seattle (Seacrest Park) Water Taxi route to facilitate SR99 Viaduct Closure traffic to the city. Why did King County Metro have to lease a necessary boat, when they already had the M/V Spirit of Kingston? These vessels are both larger capacity than the existing Water Taxis which I believe are all 149-pax vessels. This is for mitigation for the three weeks between the closure of the Viaduct and opening of the new waterfront tunnel.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 11, 2019 19:32:48 GMT -8
Why did King County Metro have to lease a necessary boat, when they already had the M/V Spirit of Kingston? These vessels are both larger capacity than the existing Water Taxis which I believe are all 149-pax vessels. This is for mitigation for the three weeks between the closure of the Viaduct and opening of the new waterfront tunnel. But why not move M/V Sally Fox to West Seattle route while the MV Spirit of Kingston service Vashon Island with increased service on the route.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 11, 2019 20:10:15 GMT -8
These vessels are both larger capacity than the existing Water Taxis which I believe are all 149-pax vessels. This is for mitigation for the three weeks between the closure of the Viaduct and opening of the new waterfront tunnel. But why not move M/V Sally Fox to West Seattle route while the MV Spirit of Kingston service Vashon Island with increased service on the route. The Sally Fox and Doc Manyard both have capacities of 278 passengers. They want to maintain service to Vashon with the Sally Fox. The West Seattle route will have increased capacity solely because they are most affected by the Viaduct Closure.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 11, 2019 20:21:13 GMT -8
But why not move M/V Sally Fox to West Seattle route while the MV Spirit of Kingston service Vashon Island with increased service on the route. The Sally Fox and Doc Manyard both have capacities of 278 passengers. They want to maintain service to Vashon with the Sally Fox. The West Seattle route will have increased capacity solely because they are most affected by the Viaduct Closure. I sure hope King County Water Taxi took a look a cost for taxpayers at leasing boat compared to moving fleet around.
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 13, 2019 18:36:31 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 13, 2019 21:54:10 GMT -8
Nice shots of the new Victoria Clipper. Just wondering how the company managed to get the vessel's port of registry of Limassol past T.C.?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Aug 13, 2019 22:13:13 GMT -8
Nice shots of the new Victoria Clipper. Just wondering how the company managed to get the vessel's port of registry of Limassol past T.C.? By going to Seattle, Washington, United State Of America, so legally Victoria Clipper could put the registry anywhere.
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Post by grk on Aug 15, 2019 11:55:25 GMT -8
As she was not built in the United States, an American port of registry is not permitted. If I remember correctly, I think Clipper 1 and 4 were also registered off shore; the Bahamas and Netherlands Antilles comes to mind. Clipper 3 was built in American, was American registered, and thus did the sailing to the San Juans, in compliance with what is commonly called the Jones Act (the name of the proper piece of Legislation is different)
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Post by Edmondsguy on Aug 18, 2019 8:52:17 GMT -8
As she was not built in the United States, an American port of registry is not permitted. If I remember correctly, I think Clipper 1 and 4 were also registered off shore; the Bahamas and Netherlands Antilles comes to mind. Clipper 3 was built in American, was American registered, and thus did the sailing to the San Juans, in compliance with what is commonly called the Jones Act (the name of the proper piece of Legislation is different) Yes you would be correct about the port of registry of each of them and why. III was Built in Freeland Nichols Brothers Boat Builders.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 23, 2019 20:15:47 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 11, 2020 15:25:44 GMT -8
If WSF ends the Sidney-Anacortes route, Victoria Clipper would be interested in serving that route. There's even mention of using a 40-car catamaran ferry.- post edited because the bill didn't pass. Here's the story: H E R E
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 11, 2020 15:33:33 GMT -8
If WSF ends the Sidney-Anacortes route, Victoria Clipper would be interested in serving that route. There's even mention of using a 40-car catamaran ferry. Here's the story: H E R EBill died in committee yesterday. The story was over before KIRO even posted it.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Feb 11, 2020 20:23:34 GMT -8
If WSF ends the Sidney-Anacortes route, Victoria Clipper would be interested in serving that route. There's even mention of using a 40-car catamaran ferry. Here's the story: H E R EBill died in committee yesterday. The story was over before KIRO even posted it. How unfortunate they aren't willing to discuss viable alternatives given the current service is sitting on the cutting board right now.
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 12, 2020 8:25:26 GMT -8
Bill died in committee yesterday. The story was over before KIRO even posted it. How unfortunate they aren't willing to discuss viable alternatives given the current service is sitting on the cutting board right now. The current service is not on the cutting board. All anyone is talking about is not dumping a ton of money in the Elwha to fix it. The boat has been out over 18 months of the last 24 and service hasn't suffered all that much, save for that time last fall. Making the Chelan's maintenance period a priority for the winter months would work until a SOLAS boat can be built, but the Sidney run has been down to one boat before for several years at a stretch off an on and it can survive with just one vessel.
This wasn't really alternative service. It became very clear during the meeting that this was a "gimme" to Victoria Clipper to skirt laws about having a qualified pilot on board the vessel. They admitted flat out that no, the vessel they had in mind for the Anacortes-Sidney run would not be able to dock at the WSF terminal, and in fact, they would have to BUILD a terminal to accommodate their boat. This also means it won't fit the Sidney dock either. Just where along Anacortes' waterfront could you build another terminal? Given all the environmental impact statements it would have to go through, tribal approval, and everything else, we're talking *years* to get something done--and they want this service in 18 months.
When pressed by our rep from Skagit County if they couldn't find a place to build a terminal in Anacortes, would they move the service elsewhere and the answer was a very sheepish, "Uh, well, yes."
In addition, this is a high-speed catamaran car ferry they want to use, zipping through the islands and our endangered indigenous orca's waters at 45 mph. Does anyone think that is a good idea or even practical?
I'm pretty sure this was floated so Clipper could get the car ferry--and probably use it from Seattle to Victoria. I doubt Anacortes to Sidney was even remotely a serious consideration--just a convenient leverage point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 19:12:26 GMT -8
Just for everyone to know i live in Victoria and while riding the bus this evening i saw the EX Victoria Clipper I sitting near the Harbour Air Dock just west of the Johnson Street Bridge. I was quite shocked as I had heard she had been scrapped, I for sure will get some pictures tomorrow if not late tonight. -Jimmy
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Post by grk on Feb 23, 2020 16:41:30 GMT -8
I heard the original Clipper vessel has been sold to Gabon, in Africa. Prior to shipping by a ocean going vessel with heavy lift cranes, she will undergo a refit at Point Hope Shipyards in Victoria's inner harbour.
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Post by grk on Mar 13, 2020 17:39:40 GMT -8
A took walk along the harbour today, an see that all the Clipper logos, corporate information, and vessel name have been painted over. The "union jack" hull painting remains.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 17, 2020 17:09:24 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Mar 19, 2020 0:04:03 GMT -8
And, here's the VICTORIA CLIPPER V docked at Pier 69 Wednesday afternoon. This is a screen shot of SDOT's livestream cam in front of the waterfront hotel The Beatles stayed and taken just after Amtrak's Seattle Branch of the Empire Builder train left King Street Station at 1640PDT.
Besides the VCV being made fast for awhile, there are no train services to Canada as well. Amtrak had a note saying that Vancouver's Pacific Central Station is closed.
Besides the Clipper, the COHO will make fast as well.
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