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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 2, 2023 18:54:46 GMT -8
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Post by 1foot2ships on Feb 3, 2023 21:49:14 GMT -8
Hey BBF... further to your post, QNW did tie up and sat in dock all day b/c of the high winds.
1. Can anybody confirm the boats on Rt.1 have different sailing thresholds?
2. I'm already assuming "yes" is the correct answer b/c now I'm curious why on Rt.2, QCoquitlam sat in dock all afternoon for the same high winds, yet QCowichan made it over and back w/o issues. Can anybody explain how, why?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 3, 2023 21:55:26 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Feb 11, 2023 20:39:32 GMT -8
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Post by yak on Feb 11, 2023 22:16:43 GMT -8
They do (or at least they did when I was there) but it isn't like they run on fumes. Depending on what they had left it could have meant an unscheduled re-fueling somewhere down the road or, just as possible, taking a little extra next Saturday.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 12, 2023 17:15:57 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 2, 2023 15:25:20 GMT -8
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Post by Ollie on Mar 21, 2023 16:52:55 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland has a mechanical issue:
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 9, 2023 20:50:15 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Apr 9, 2023 21:08:29 GMT -8
I don't quite understand why you're asking this question. I wasn't monitoring the specific weather situations, but I know that on the south coast today, wind conditions were formidable in certain areas. You are aware of how exposed Tsawwassen is, in terms of docking?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 9, 2023 21:15:20 GMT -8
I don't quite understand why you're asking this question. I wasn't monitoring the specific weather situations, but I know that on the south coast today, wind conditions were formidable in certain areas. You are aware of how exposed Tsawwassen is, in terms of docking? The Tsawwassen to Duke Point and Tsawwassen to Southern Gulf Island or Swartz Bay to Southern Gulf Island were operating normally today and those routes would also have problems docking at the terminals. I don’t why Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay vessels would have more difficulties docking if those routes where total fine to operate.
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 10, 2023 7:00:36 GMT -8
I don't quite understand why you're asking this question. I wasn't monitoring the specific weather situations, but I know that on the south coast today, wind conditions were formidable in certain areas. You are aware of how exposed Tsawwassen is, in terms of docking? The Tsawwassen to Duke Point and Tsawwassen to Southern Gulf Island or Swartz Bay to Southern Gulf Island were operating normally today and those routes would also have problems docking at the terminals. I don’t why Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay vessels would have more difficulties docking if those routes where total fine to operate. It's quite simple actually. Most ships have different weather handling characteristics. There is a weather matrix of conditions for each ship, so if the weather is either forecasted or observed to exceed, the vessel will tie up. These plans start to come into effect whenever winds reach the 30 knot range. Single Ended vessels, especially the New West, have lower thresholds to operate in, while double enders have the power at both ends to maneuver into the dock more easily and will typically have a higher wind threshold. Wave heights are also taken into consideration to not cause undue stress on the vessel. Here's a link to the marine weather forecast page: weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305Another resource that is used is the weather buoys, which relay hourly weather observations weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305
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Post by paulvanb on Apr 10, 2023 15:53:21 GMT -8
The Tsawwassen to Duke Point and Tsawwassen to Southern Gulf Island or Swartz Bay to Southern Gulf Island were operating normally today and those routes would also have problems docking at the terminals. I don’t why Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay vessels would have more difficulties docking if those routes where total fine to operate. It's quite simple actually. Most ships have different weather handling characteristics. There is a weather matrix of conditions for each ship, so if the weather is either forecasted or observed to exceed, the vessel will tie up. These plans start to come into effect whenever winds reach the 30 knot range. Single Ended vessels, especially the New West, have lower thresholds to operate in, while double enders have the power at both ends to maneuver into the dock more easily and will typically have a higher wind threshold. Wave heights are also taken into consideration to not cause undue stress on the vessel. Here's a link to the marine weather forecast page: weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305Another resource that is used is the weather buoys, which relay hourly weather observations weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305And then there's CalMac.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 10, 2023 19:00:47 GMT -8
It's quite simple actually. Most ships have different weather handling characteristics. There is a weather matrix of conditions for each ship, so if the weather is either forecasted or observed to exceed, the vessel will tie up. These plans start to come into effect whenever winds reach the 30 knot range. Single Ended vessels, especially the New West, have lower thresholds to operate in, while double enders have the power at both ends to maneuver into the dock more easily and will typically have a higher wind threshold. Wave heights are also taken into consideration to not cause undue stress on the vessel. Here's a link to the marine weather forecast page: weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305Another resource that is used is the weather buoys, which relay hourly weather observations weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305Chris, my interpretation of what you say is that the Coastal Celebration should have been able to continue sailing.
Perhaps vessels on Route 1 are running broadside to the wind & seas, whereas on Route 30 they are running either with or into the wind. BC Ferries decisions re weather cancellations seem a little arbitrary to me.
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Post by Dane on Apr 12, 2023 10:24:50 GMT -8
No berth for the CCel at Tsawwassen.
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Post by Neil on Apr 12, 2023 11:45:10 GMT -8
No berth for the CCel at Tsawwassen. Explain?
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Post by Dane on Apr 12, 2023 20:40:34 GMT -8
There was an equal amount of ferries at Tsawwassen as there were berths, that morning. If the CCel ran to Tsawwassen there would be one more boat than berths.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 12, 2023 20:59:14 GMT -8
There was an equal amount of ferries at Tsawwassen as there were berths, that morning. If the CCel ran to Tsawwassen there would be one more boat than berths. She could’ve use Duke Point berth if they wanted too due Duke Point vessels sailing during the morning.
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Post by Dane on Apr 13, 2023 23:55:21 GMT -8
There was an equal amount of ferries at Tsawwassen as there were berths, that morning. If the CCel ran to Tsawwassen there would be one more boat than berths. She could’ve use Duke Point berth if they wanted too due Duke Point vessels sailing during the morning. It was a Sunday morning. Route 30 wasn't running.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 20, 2023 15:49:57 GMT -8
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Post by timmyc on Apr 24, 2023 19:02:31 GMT -8
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 20, 2023 8:20:34 GMT -8
Am I reading this wrong? Since when is travelling with your vehicle through Tsawwassen to Vancouver Island a suitable alternative to avoid sailing waits to get to the Sunshine Coast?
May Long Weekend - Busy Travel Expected Horseshoe Bay to Langdale May 18 to May 23, 2023
Customers travelling stand-by on the Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) to Langdale (Sunshine Coast) route can expect sailing waits this coming weekend. Customers without bookings should consider alternate plans, including using public transit or travelling with their vehicle through the Tsawwassen terminal to access Vancouver Island. There will be longer than usual line-ups in the pre-ticketing zone in front of the vehicle tollbooths. If traffic exceeds the capacity of the pre-ticketing area at terminals, stand-by traffic may be turned away and asked to return at a later time for safety reasons.
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Post by Neil on May 20, 2023 8:32:49 GMT -8
Am I reading this wrong? Since when is travelling with your vehicle through Tsawwassen to Vancouver Island a suitable alternative to avoid sailing waits to get to the Sunshine Coast? May Long Weekend - Busy Travel Expected Horseshoe Bay to Langdale May 18 to May 23, 2023 Customers travelling stand-by on the Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) to Langdale (Sunshine Coast) route can expect sailing waits this coming weekend. Customers without bookings should consider alternate plans, including using public transit or travelling with their vehicle through the Tsawwassen terminal to access Vancouver Island. There will be longer than usual line-ups in the pre-ticketing zone in front of the vehicle tollbooths. If traffic exceeds the capacity of the pre-ticketing area at terminals, stand-by traffic may be turned away and asked to return at a later time for safety reasons. I wondered about that, too. Are they actually suggesting going Tsawwassen to Duke Point, driving up to Little River and then across to Powell River? Made no sense.
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Post by 1foot2ships on May 21, 2023 3:07:58 GMT -8
considering the giant attempt they are making diverting traffic through DP, isnt it obvious they meant to substitue sunshine coast for nanaimo?
(smh. and you guys call yourself ferryfans...)
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Post by 1foot2ships on May 21, 2023 3:12:33 GMT -8
also yd.... the capilano ran all am sailings as scheduled, but b/c they were short an officer for the pm shift, all pm sailings were abrubtly cancelled ~1330. to mitigate damage, they decided to keep the entire am shift, on OT, to do one more round trip out of HSB to clear all paid up vehicles in the holding lot ...and i assume the vehicles in the queue at SC. for the rest of the pm, they called in water taxis. is it just me, or did this royally screw over a lot of daytrippers? www.nsnews.com/local-news/bowen-island-horseshoe-bay-sailings-cancelled-starting-this-afternoon-7030669(lots and lots of angry comments on fb)
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