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Post by Neil on May 12, 2024 20:19:03 GMT -8
I never cease to be amused at the strange justifications that come up in the service notices for delays. I'm not suggesting they're making things up... it's just, sometimes I don't get it.
Today:
Our 8:00 pm sailing from Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) to Snug Cove (Bowen Island) departed 34 minutes behind schedule due to increased marine traffic in the region earlier today, and the crew taking time to get extra vehicles loaded where possible given today’s heavy volume of traffic.
So... were there a couple of pleasure boats leaving Horseshoe Bay, or maybe a service barge, that meant the 'Capilano had to sit in berth waiting for clear water? And did that happen, like two or three hours previous, as the notice suggests? How busy can Horseshoe Bay be?
And I continue to be intrigued by the new wrinkle to the service notices, where they reference stuffing 'extra vehicles' where they can.
I guess I should thank BC Ferries for continuing to challenge the comprehension of ferry nerds. Regular people wouldn't even notice.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 17, 2024 20:33:29 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 21, 2024 18:53:12 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on May 21, 2024 20:21:36 GMT -8
BC Ferries did say that the cancellation was due to particular vessel dynamics. I'm guessing that the ' New Westminster being a single ender and berthing at Tsawwwassen, is the issue.
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jun 27, 2024 6:36:54 GMT -8
four ships, 1 shot ![](//storage.proboards.com/104063/thumbnailer/0FYycRCwgLMIxgLRgVcI.png) quiz for u ferry nerds: which one isnt supposed to be here?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 27, 2024 19:35:45 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Jun 27, 2024 20:15:24 GMT -8
So, there's going to be a route two vessel in transit until about 3:25am tomorrow morning. Almost takes us back to that interesting experiment of round the clock sailings, every two hours. Thanks for posting that service notice, BBF.
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jun 27, 2024 20:30:20 GMT -8
oh my gosh. i just saw the news. sorry guys. i didnt mean to make a joke out of a something strange and unique. i was naive and didnt dig deeper into why/ how this happened. i hope this was an accident and those souls RIP.
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Post by Neil on Jul 8, 2024 20:26:24 GMT -8
I'm finding the recent service notices about tidal extremes and loading somewhat baffling. BC Ferries is warning that tomorrow morning at Langdale, tidal conditions might force some longer, low slung vehicles or trailers to wait for more favorable conditions. Early tomorrow a.m., the tide at Gibsons will be around 12'. Our tides on this coast range from just below 0' to about 16'6". 12' is well within the normal range. Shouldn't the trestles, ramps, and aprons be designed to load and unload in these conditions? I'm seeing these service notices at other terminals as well. When you take into account cancellations when wind and waves reach a certain point, it just seems that our ferry system is getting increasingly delicate. www.bcferries.com/current-conditions/service-notices?serviceNoticeCode=8802385702664&subscriptionRoute=HSB-LNG
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 8, 2024 20:45:31 GMT -8
I'm finding the recent service notices about tidal extremes and loading somewhat baffling. BC Ferries is warning that tomorrow morning at Langdale, tidal conditions might force some longer, low slung vehicles or trailers to wait for more favorable conditions. Early tomorrow a.m., the tide at Gibsons will be around 12'. Our tides on this coast range from just below 0' to about 16'6". 12' is well within the normal range. Shouldn't the trestles, ramps, and aprons be designed to load and unload in these conditions? I'm seeing these service notices at other terminals as well. When you take into account cancellations when wind and waves reach a certain point, it just seems that our ferry system is getting increasingly delicate. www.bcferries.com/current-conditions/service-notices?serviceNoticeCode=8802385702664&subscriptionRoute=HSB-LNGIt’s better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 9, 2024 10:37:23 GMT -8
I'm finding the recent service notices about tidal extremes and loading somewhat baffling. BC Ferries is warning that tomorrow morning at Langdale, tidal conditions might force some longer, low slung vehicles or trailers to wait for more favorable conditions. Early tomorrow a.m., the tide at Gibsons will be around 12'. Our tides on this coast range from just below 0' to about 16'6". 12' is well within the normal range. Shouldn't the trestles, ramps, and aprons be designed to load and unload in these conditions? I'm seeing these service notices at other terminals as well. When you take into account cancellations when wind and waves reach a certain point, it just seems that our ferry system is getting increasingly delicate. www.bcferries.com/current-conditions/service-notices?serviceNoticeCode=8802385702664&subscriptionRoute=HSB-LNGYou're absolutely right Neil. Extreme low tides & possibly extreme highs are the only tidal conditions that should result in problems for loading certain vehicle configurations. If you are reading this BC Ferries yet another baffling Service Notice ...
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Post by Neil on Jul 9, 2024 17:20:30 GMT -8
I'm finding the recent service notices about tidal extremes and loading somewhat baffling. BC Ferries is warning that tomorrow morning at Langdale, tidal conditions might force some longer, low slung vehicles or trailers to wait for more favorable conditions. Early tomorrow a.m., the tide at Gibsons will be around 12'. Our tides on this coast range from just below 0' to about 16'6". 12' is well within the normal range. Shouldn't the trestles, ramps, and aprons be designed to load and unload in these conditions? I'm seeing these service notices at other terminals as well. When you take into account cancellations when wind and waves reach a certain point, it just seems that our ferry system is getting increasingly delicate. www.bcferries.com/current-conditions/service-notices?serviceNoticeCode=8802385702664&subscriptionRoute=HSB-LNGYou're absolutely right Neil . Extreme low tides & possibly extreme highs are the only tidal conditions that should result in problems for loading certain vehicle configurations. If you are reading this BC Ferries yet another baffling Service Notice ... Jim, it's even more nonsensical when you read this part of the service notice about route three: Tides that are below 8 feet or higher than 10 feet change the angle the ferry approaches the loading ramp, and during these times, some vehicles are likely to get stuck on the ramp.Are they seriously stating that there's only a tidal range of two feet where the loading infrastructure works dependably for everyone? Really?
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Post by northwesterner on Jul 9, 2024 19:07:34 GMT -8
Jim, it's even more nonsensical when you read this part of the service notice about route three: Tides that are below 8 feet or higher than 10 feet change the angle the ferry approaches the loading ramp, and during these times, some vehicles are likely to get stuck on the ramp.Are they seriously stating that there's only a tidal range of two feet where the loading infrastructure works dependably for everyone? Really? That's absurd. Is this just extreme caution from risk averse managers or what?
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 9, 2024 19:39:36 GMT -8
If BCFS wants the public at large to feel better about their organization they could start by stopping the flow of nonsense communications.
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Post by Departure Bay on Jul 12, 2024 6:33:25 GMT -8
A big yikes on a summer Friday - the first two round trips of the day on the Queen of Oak Bay have been cancelled:
Vancouver (Horseshoe Bay) - Nanaimo (Departure Bay)
Re-issued 6:58 am
Due to a mechanical difficulty with the vessel’s backup power supply, some sailings between Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) – Departure Bay (Nanaimo) today Friday, July 12, 2024 have been cancelled.
Cancelled Sailings: 6:30 am departing Horseshoe Bay 9:05 am departing Departure Bay 11:25 am departing Horseshoe Bay 1:40 pm departing Departure Bay
Other sailings on this route are expected to proceed as scheduled.
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Post by Departure Bay on Jul 12, 2024 9:25:52 GMT -8
Looks like they got the Oak Bay back up and running sooner than they thought they could.
Vancouver (Horseshoe Bay) - Nanaimo (Departure Bay)
Re-issued: 10:11 am
We have sucessfully resolved the mechanical difficulty with the vessel’s backup power supply, to ensure that some previously cancelled sailings between Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) – Departure Bay (Nanaimo) can depart as scheduled today Friday, July 12, 2024. Cancelled Sailings: 6:30 am departing Horseshoe Bay 9:05 am departing Departure Bay
Reinstated Sailings: 11:25 am departing Horseshoe Bay 1:40 pm departing Departure Bay
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Post by hwy19man on Jul 12, 2024 14:21:05 GMT -8
A big yikes on a summer Friday - the first two round trips of the day on the Queen of Oak Bay have been cancelled:
Vancouver (Horseshoe Bay) - Nanaimo (Departure Bay)
Re-issued 6:58 am
Due to a mechanical difficulty with the vessel’s backup power supply, some sailings between Horseshoe Bay (Vancouver) – Departure Bay (Nanaimo) today Friday, July 12, 2024 have been cancelled.
Cancelled Sailings: 6:30 am departing Horseshoe Bay 9:05 am departing Departure Bay 11:25 am departing Horseshoe Bay 1:40 pm departing Departure Bay
Other sailings on this route are expected to proceed as scheduled. Glad that the Oak Bay will only miss one round trip. Haven't posted this in a while, but, Murphy's Law strikes again!
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Post by 1foot2ships on Aug 10, 2024 21:33:31 GMT -8
not a big deal cause its only a regular saturday night, but SVI is approaching 2hrs behind schedule. vessel position map shows SBC nearing home right on SVI's butt. webpage doest reveal much except that theyve been working to fix a mechanical problem since mid-day.
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Post by Ollie on Aug 25, 2024 7:35:13 GMT -8
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