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Post by WettCoast on Apr 19, 2009 10:59:37 GMT -8
It would appear that the Chilliwack is now the spare boat replacing the role that used to be taken up by the Tsawwassen. The Chilliwack will serve on the the Comox - Powell River run when the Burnaby goes for refit, and also, it would appear, when the Burnaby replaces the Nanaimo on route 9. Using the Chilliwack on route 9 would be problematic due to its slow speed. No doubt the Chilliwack will also replace the Island Sky during its refits in the foreseeable future.
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Post by rt1commuter on Apr 19, 2009 11:47:20 GMT -8
So does that mean no rt 40 this summer?
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 19, 2009 12:08:59 GMT -8
No, she'll be on Rte 40 this summer. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe she will be the spare boat during the refit season, when Rte 40 is not operating.
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Post by johnnytindale on Apr 19, 2009 14:50:08 GMT -8
Direct from BC Ferries: Service Notice - Temporary Replacement Vessel Posted Friday, April 17, 200 Note: This Service Notice applies to the following route(s): - Comox (Little River) - Powell River (Westview) Due to the configuration of the Queen of Chilliwack, there is a possibility of restrictions of certain vehicle types at varying tidal heights. Did anyone catch this? Boy, it must be a tight fit at low tide when docking at Little River.
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Post by Curtis on Apr 19, 2009 16:30:59 GMT -8
Due to the configuration of the Queen of Chilliwack, there is a possibility of restrictions of certain vehicle types at varying tidal heights. Did anyone catch this? Boy, it must be a tight fit at low tide when docking at Little River. I direct your attention to this photo to show you why there may be restrictions, this should be self-explanatory... When there is a very low tide on either side, a large truck might not be welcomed aboard.
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 19, 2009 16:47:37 GMT -8
I actually found it quite interesting they have to adjust the schedule for the Chilliwack. She's a double ender, and can maintain the speed that the Queen of Burnaby normally does on the route, which is about 12-13 knots. Perhaps, and this is just a random guess: with her running on a route that actually crosses the open straight, they may be required to run her in the same manner as on route 40, as a single ender, with the end that has the watertight door always serving as the bow. This might require some extra time in docking at each end to make sure they can go 'stern in' at one end of the route. Either way, I am sure Curtis is going to have the chance to get some unique and previously impossible images of the Chilliwack running on a completely new route.
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Post by Quatchi on Apr 19, 2009 17:18:44 GMT -8
I think the issue with tides is that the Chilliwacks car deck is quite low and they have problems with trucks bottoming out when they go up or down the ramps. As for the modified Schedule. The Burnaby runs around 15 knots I think, and the Chilliwack max's out around 12.5 on a good day. The ship will most likely run as a double ender seeing as she is still in protected waters and the Burnaby doesn't have a watertight bow either. They might even decide to run her on just 2 engines to save a tonne of fuel considering they don't necessarily need to run on normal schedule as there is time to spare. We will have to wait and see what actually happens though.
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 19, 2009 18:08:39 GMT -8
It looks like I'll miss the Chilliwack by one day. I'll be going through on the holiday Monday, May 18. I've never been on "Wack". It would have been interesting for that perspective alone. Of course, I haven't been on Burnaby since she was "Coastalized", so I will enjoy the trip regardless.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 19, 2009 18:29:02 GMT -8
Direct from BC Ferries: Service Notice - Temporary Replacement Vessel Posted Friday, April 17, 200 Note: This Service Notice applies to the following route(s): - Comox (Little River) - Powell River (Westview) Due to the configuration of the Queen of Chilliwack, there is a possibility of restrictions of certain vehicle types at varying tidal heights. Did anyone catch this? Boy, it must be a tight fit at low tide when docking at Little River. Yeah, I caught it the first time around, when the notice was posted on the other thread. I guess this is the new reality for that route's replacement, so they should get used to those kinds of restrictions. But that's not really new for the issue of replacements. Bowen Queen quite often has tide issues at Gabriola. And Bowen Queen also inconveniences the Crofton-Vesuvius route with the over-height restrictions that she brings to that and other routes. I may do a trip on the Chilliwack on the Comox route in May, just to see what it's like.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Apr 19, 2009 20:09:36 GMT -8
I haven't been on the Chilliwack in service since 1999...so I might like to take her for a ride while the Burnaby is in refit. I've been on her while tied up (her, not me) ;D and while in refit (again HER) but travelling during active service is always different!
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 19, 2009 20:22:05 GMT -8
The effect of tides may have even happened with the Tsawwassen, too. More than once at Saltery Bay, they had trucks scrape the bottom of the ramp, or coming on to the cardeck. Occasionally, they would even have one that couldn't fit through the bow doors, which were already increased in height for that route. Apparently the day before we were there for the Tsawwassen's last weekend, a truck had been stuck coming off at Saltery Bay, and the crew had to squeeze it out with jacks, wedges and blocks. I even saw one episode at Klemtu, where a couple trucks had trouble backing on and just barely made it, with one even scraping the frame of the stern door. I wonder if the Burnaby ever had issues that we just never here of.
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Post by Hardy on Apr 21, 2009 16:24:33 GMT -8
Angles, ramps and 'bottoming-out' or 'high-centering' a low-bed (or otherwise low, such as a moving trailer with belly boxes) trailer is a function of both the shore-end ramp, and how much "flat deck space" there is ahead of the bow/stern door structure. Simple physics apply, remembering that a semi trailer articulates at the king pin/fifth wheel, and that trailer lengths are commonly 42+' behind the "gooseneck" ...
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 11, 2009 9:09:26 GMT -8
Does anyone know if the Cafeteria on the Wack will be open on the Comox run??? I know it usually isent for hot meals when she has been on Jervis Inlet but this is a longer route and I would hope that it would be.
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Post by Nickfro on May 11, 2009 9:22:27 GMT -8
I would have to think that the Wack will try and match the services that are provided on the Burnaby as best as they can, so I would expect to be able to get a hot meal on board.
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Post by Quatchi on May 11, 2009 11:57:47 GMT -8
I'm thinking they will have hot-dogs, chillie-dogs, and baked potatoes.
Just like she did in the winter on route 7.
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Post by Shane on May 19, 2009 7:51:40 GMT -8
I just watched the Chilliwack pull out of Westview a little while ago, what a weird sight to see! Im going to have to take a round trip sometime this week and take alot of pictures, since I just got a new memory card.
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 19, 2009 9:03:16 GMT -8
I was on the Burnaby's 5:15pm sailing last night and later I checked and saw her steaming south on Siitech destination said Horseshoe Bay. The Wack was at Saltery Bay yesterday when we arrived departed and arrived on the Island Sky.
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Post by Quatchi on May 19, 2009 11:44:57 GMT -8
It looks like she is running as a single ender. I guess they need those bow doors sealed for the straight then.
Shes probably running a full crew then as well.
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Post by Curtis on May 20, 2009 11:31:00 GMT -8
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Post by Quatchi on May 20, 2009 11:49:59 GMT -8
The history on Siitech shows her taking the same approach to Westview as the Burnaby and she turns around upon departure from little River. Therefore running as a single ender.
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Post by Quatchi on May 20, 2009 14:57:39 GMT -8
Hmm, I must correct myself. The webcam shows her coming straight into the Westview Berth as if she was running as a double ender.
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Post by Curtis on May 20, 2009 16:09:15 GMT -8
I wonder if they are using her as a single-ender depending on weather conditions? I wouldn't doubt it.
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Post by Kahloke on May 20, 2009 19:20:21 GMT -8
I was on the Burnaby's 5:15pm sailing last night and later I checked and saw her steaming south on Siitech destination said Horseshoe Bay. The Wack was at Saltery Bay yesterday when we arrived departed and arrived on the Island Sky. I saw her at Saltery Bay on Monday, as well. Took some good pics of her, which I will eventually post when I get them all organized. I was thrilled to see 'Wack because I had never seen that vessel before.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 23, 2009 23:05:49 GMT -8
I rode the Chilliwack twice today on the Comox-Westview route. She is sailing as a single-ender, with the #1 end (with watertight door) as the bow. When she approaches Westview, she stops and does a 180-degree turn, well out from the berth. She then approaches the berth with her #2 end, thereby docking "stern to". I was surprised at how far out from the dock we were when we did this turn. Also, the tide was a 1.5 low this morning, and the ramp was very steep. Monday-Tuesday will have 0.3 tides at noon, so this will likely impact some low cars taking the noon sailing. I've set up a photo thread for the Chilly Comox pictures. ferriesbc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=photos&action=display&thread=4580
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Post by Quatchi on May 24, 2009 0:06:46 GMT -8
That makes sense. She must have turned around during the camera frames.
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