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Post by EGfleet on Oct 27, 2019 12:02:20 GMT -8
Not sure about that date... the Department of Highways ferries were absorbed into BC Ferries in 1985, and that vessel, which is either the Nimpkish, Nicola, or Albert J. Savoie, still has its yellow stacks. Doesn't look like Q Cove to me. Yeah, that's the problem with the dates on slides--that just indicated when the slide was developed, not necessarily when it was actually taken.
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Post by Curtis on Oct 27, 2019 13:04:00 GMT -8
After a little bit of Google image searching, I came across this picture from the BC Archives. That looks to be a match for the picture above. search-bcarchives.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/quadra-island-ferry-at-quathiaski-coveComparing geographical features in both shots, it appears Quathiaski Cove is the location in the picture above, and the vessel arriving at the berth is likely the Quadra Queen (I), a.k.a. MV Nicola, a.k.a. Spirit of Lax Kw’alaams. The similar appearances of the terminal in both pictures would suggest the image above was taken sometime in the 60s. (Maybe the 1987 on the back of the picture was actually 1967?) This might check out as we know the Quadra Queen II came onto the scene in 1969 which would have displaced the Nicola from the route. Unless of course this was a refit relief situation which could place this picture at anytime in the 1970s. I doubt it’s past the 1980s though as we know the Tachek was seen a lot on Route 23 around that time. As for the location of the old terminal, I did a little looking around Quathiaski Cove on Google Maps and discovered “Old Ferry Road” 1.5 km north of the current terminal. A quick look at it on street view more or less confirmed it for me. It definitely makes more sense to have the terminal where it is today as it cuts 5 or 10 minutes off the trip not having to go around the north side of Grouse Island. Anyway, that concludes my photo sleuthing.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2019 16:22:27 GMT -8
After a little bit of Google image searching, I came across this picture from the BC Archives. That looks to be a match for the picture above. search-bcarchives.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/quadra-island-ferry-at-quathiaski-coveComparing geographical features in both shots, it appears Quathiaski Cove is the location in the picture above, and the vessel arriving at the berth is likely the Quadra Queen (I), a.k.a. MV Nicola, a.k.a. Spirit of Lax Kw’alaams. The similar appearances of the terminal in both pictures would suggest the image above was taken sometime in the 60s. (Maybe the 1987 on the back of the picture was actually 1967?) This might check out as we know the Quadra Queen II came onto the scene in 1969 which would have displaced the Nicola from the route. Unless of course this was a refit relief situation which could place this picture at anytime in the 1970s. I doubt it’s past the 1980s though as we know the Tachek was seen a lot on Route 23 around that time. As for the location of the old terminal, I did a little looking around Quathiaski Cove on Google Maps and discovered “Old Ferry Road” 1.5 km north of the current terminal. A quick look at it on street view more or less confirmed it for me. It definitely makes more sense to have the terminal where it is today as it cuts 5 or 10 minutes off the trip not having to go around the north side of Grouse Island. Anyway, that concludes my photo sleuthing. Good work, Curtis. This makes sense, also when considering the buildings on the other side of the strait. The larger industrial building are what still is on Tyee Spit, near the mouth of the Campbell River.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2019 16:26:55 GMT -8
Another random slide in a lot. Not only an ID the ferry, but the place as well. Dated November 1987.
Old Ferry Road Quadra Island by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr Here's the Google Maps Streetview of the foot end of Old Ferry Road, at Q-Cove on Quadra Island. The fence hasn't changed much....
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 27, 2019 17:06:23 GMT -8
I am having difficulty in reconciling EGF's mystery photo as being from Quathiaski Cove. If it is, than the terminal has been hugely redeveloped from the time of that photo (perhaps the most modified of any of the little terminal along the BC coast).
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2019 17:09:29 GMT -8
I am having difficulty in reconciling EGF's mystery photo as being from Quathiaski Cove. If it is, than the terminal has been hugely redeveloped from the time of that photo (perhaps the most modified of any of the little terminal along the BC coast). Think of the bigger cove, where Old Ferry Road is, north of Grouse Island. ie. this is a different site, in the same overall big cove. North of the current ferry terminal site.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 27, 2019 17:19:35 GMT -8
Think of the bigger cove, where Old Ferry Road is, north of Grouse Island. ie. this is a different site, in the same overall big cove. North of the current ferry terminal site. Yes, after checking it out on Google Earth I am more or less convinced. So, the terminal today is not too far away from the old one, but it is nevertheless a whole new site. When was it moved?
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Post by Neil on Oct 27, 2019 21:36:41 GMT -8
Think of the bigger cove, where Old Ferry Road is, north of Grouse Island. ie. this is a different site, in the same overall big cove. North of the current ferry terminal site. Yes, after checking it out on Google Earth I am more or less convinced. So, the terminal today is not too far away from the old one, but it is nevertheless a whole new site. When was it moved? LL Mike was right with his original suggestion of the view of Campbell River, and Curtis was bang on with his research. Well done. In 1968, when I was twelve, I did my first ferry tour, with my mother, and we took the first Quadra Queen to Q Cove, but didn't get off. I'm thinking that maybe Jim Abrams, Quadra's FAC veteran, would know when the terminal was moved. (via facebook?)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 28, 2019 8:03:47 GMT -8
LL Mike was right with his original suggestion of the view of Campbell River, and Curtis was bang on with his research. Well done. In 1968, when I was twelve, I did my first ferry tour, with my mother, and we took the first Quadra Queen to Q Cove, but didn't get off. I'm thinking that maybe Jim Abrams, Quadra's FAC veteran, would know when the terminal was moved. (via facebook?) I checked the 1968-69 annual report of the BC Ministry of Highways (based on some preliminary Googling regarding the date), and the report indicates a new ferry landing constructed at Q-Cove during the 1968-69 Government fiscal year. The same report mentioned a "new route" for Quadra to Cortes, and a new landing at Blubber Bay. [a href=" page 71 of 1968-69 Ministery of Highways report by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr"]PDF of screen shot of report[/a]
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 28, 2019 8:09:38 GMT -8
Given the processing date of the slide (Nov 87) it is probable that the photo is from 1985 or 86, or even earlier in 87. I do not know just how prompt BC Ferries was in having the BC Highways salt water vessels repainted following the 1985 merger. They were at the time introducing the Expo livery fleet wide. Some of these smaller vessels in the highways fleet only saw refits once every couple of years so (I am speculating that) the repaints might not have happened for some time after the merger. I am guessing that the terminal relocation probably dates from the latter half of the 1980's. Late edit based on LLM's latest post: EGfleet, can you recheck that processing date on the slide. Perhaps you misread it?
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 28, 2019 11:35:30 GMT -8
Given the processing date of the slide (Nov 87) it is probable that the photo is from 1985 or 86, or even earlier in 87. I do not know just how prompt BC Ferries was in having the BC Highways salt water vessels repainted following the 1985 merger. They were at the time introducing the Expo livery fleet wide. Some of these smaller vessels in the highways fleet only saw refits once every couple of years so (I am speculating that) the repaints might not have happened for some time after the merger. I am guessing that the terminal relocation probably dates from the latter half of the 1980's. Late edit based on LLM's latest post: EGfleet , can you recheck that processing date on the slide. Perhaps you misread it? I gave up and scanned the slide border itself. It's smudged a bit, but blown up to 720 DPI it does appear to say 67 and not 87.
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Post by Neil on Apr 10, 2021 17:01:16 GMT -8
Excuse the cell phone quality photos (through a binocular lens, no less) but anyone have any idea on the identity of these ships? Being towed north in Malaspina Strait this afternoon. I'm guessing one is the ex Klatawa or Kulleet. Klatawa, re-named Marina Mac, owned by Diversified Marine. Can't remember the name of the vessel pushing her... when I saw it at Ford Cove on Hornby a few years back, I thought it looked like a re-purposed ferry, but she wasn't. She's been talked about on the BC Coastal Mariners facebook page. Someone there would know.
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Post by Nick on Apr 10, 2021 17:39:17 GMT -8
Excuse the cell phone quality photos (through a binocular lens, no less) but anyone have any idea on the identity of these ships? Being towed north in Malaspina Strait this afternoon. I'm guessing one is the ex Klatawa or Kulleet. Klatawa, re-named Marina Mac, owned by Diversified Marine. Can't remember the name of the vessel pushing her... when I saw it at Ford Cove on Hornby a few years back, I thought it looked like a re-purposed ferry, but she wasn't. She's been talked about on the BC Coastal Mariners facebook page. Someone there would know. I actually found her on MarineTraffic. It's the Essington II, which looks like she may have been a public works tender for small craft harbours? Paid off in 1992, which was before DFO and TC amalgamated all the federal vessels to create the current CCG.
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Post by Kam on Mar 26, 2024 19:19:20 GMT -8
Some really epic ship spotting footage from the late 70s! Shiny new C class and unadulterated V class everywhere! See if you can ID them all! (The first 6 minutes are from the Lady Rose).
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 26, 2024 19:53:19 GMT -8
Some really epic ship spotting footage from the late 70s! Shiny new C class and unadulterated V class everywhere! See if you can ID them all! (The first 6 minutes are from the Lady Rose). At the beginning we are looking at the MV Mill Bay working on the Saanich Inlet crossing. Later footage in Horseshoe Bay shows the brand new original C class complete with upper car deck 'arches' dating the footage to 1976/77. The vessels are the Coquitlam & Cowichan. We also see a couple of the B class Spauldings, Burnaby and/or Nanaimo, I think.
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Post by elwharust on Mar 26, 2024 21:41:43 GMT -8
Some really epic ship spotting footage from the late 70s! Shiny new C class and unadulterated V class everywhere! See if you can ID them all! (The first 6 minutes are from the Lady Rose). At the beginning we are looking at the MV Mill Bay working on the Saanich Inlet crossing. Later footage in Horseshoe Bay shows the brand new original C class complete with upper car deck 'arches' dating the footage to 1976/77. The vessels are the Coquitlam & Cowichan. We also see a couple of the B class Spauldings, Burnaby and/or Nanaimo, I think. I believe I saw the New West in there as well(around the 11:30 mark).
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 26, 2024 22:13:33 GMT -8
At the beginning we are looking at the MV Mill Bay working on the Saanich Inlet crossing. Later footage in Horseshoe Bay shows the brand new original C class complete with upper car deck 'arches' dating the footage to 1976/77. The vessels are the Coquitlam & Cowichan. We also see a couple of the B class Spauldings, Burnaby and/or Nanaimo, I think. I believe I saw the New West in there as well(around the 11:30 mark). Don’t forget about Howe Sound Queen and Princess of Vancouver.
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