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MV Hiyu
Jul 15, 2015 19:49:44 GMT -8
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Post by waterlogged72 on Jul 15, 2015 19:49:44 GMT -8
Looks like the little Hiyu is going to come out and play next week! Should be interesting to see how this is going to work on the Triangle!
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Post by Neil on Jul 15, 2015 20:15:57 GMT -8
Hiyu is kind of the Pluto of the WSF solar system. Much denigrated, not even considered a fully worthy part of the fleet, but on occasion, the focus of a fair bit of attention. Part of Washington's salt water Kuiper Belt of minor vessels, including the small county boats, and the Charlie Wells... but like Pluto, it's not even the biggest of those.
I like the outcasts, on the water, or at the edge of the solar system.
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MV Hiyu
Jul 15, 2015 20:21:11 GMT -8
Post by FNS on Jul 15, 2015 20:21:11 GMT -8
Looks like the little Hiyu is going to come out and play next week! Should be interesting to see how this is going to work on the Triangle! This shows you that the little ferry "SolDuc" calls the "Flying Saucer" isn't spinning away from us to another planet just yet. Marvin can wait. I think he has plans for her on Mars. But, I think Bugs has plans, too. To transport carrots stolen from Elmer's farm across the sound to his hole.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 15, 2015 21:13:07 GMT -8
Hiyu is kind of the Pluto of the WSF solar system. Much denigrated, not even considered a fully worthy part of the fleet, but on occasion, the focus of a fair bit of attention. Part of Washington's salt water Kuiper Belt of minor vessels, including the small county boats, and the Charlie Wells... but like Pluto, it's not even the biggest of those.
I like the outcasts, on the water, or at the edge of the solar system. The type of post that makes me love this forum. Ferries, current events, exploration, all in one place. Thanks for making this fun. After the Spirit class ferries have their mid-life upgrade and LNG conversion, will they be known as the BCF fleet's "Gas Giants" ?
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MV Hiyu
Jul 16, 2015 12:44:26 GMT -8
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Post by waterlogged72 on Jul 16, 2015 12:44:26 GMT -8
Since I've never been on this boat,I shall take a joyride to Vashon Island to see what it's like.
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MV Hiyu
Jul 16, 2015 15:16:38 GMT -8
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Post by sounder on Jul 16, 2015 15:16:38 GMT -8
Since I've never been on this boat,I shall take a joyride to Vashon Island to see what it's like. The last time the Hiyu did this a few years back at Vashon, it mainly ran direct between Fauntleroy and Southworth as a shuttle. That was during the winter schedule. It should be interesting to see the pattern they run the boat this time around in the heat of summer. Hopefully I can snag a ride on my old friend. I think the mighty Hiyu is rated around 200 passengers so I will "joyride" in the middle of the day to avoid "Mr. Grumpy" who just wants to get home after work from being left standing on the dock
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MV Hiyu
Jul 16, 2015 16:01:56 GMT -8
Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 16, 2015 16:01:56 GMT -8
I think WSF should do for the route to help keep capacity and make easy for crews by following my simple plan. The M/V Issaquah will operate on the Fauntletory to Vashon route. The M/V Cathlamet operates on the Fauntleroy to Southworth route. The M/V Hiyu will operate on shuttle mode in peak periods and schedule during off peaks from Vashon to Southworth.
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MV Hiyu
Jul 16, 2015 16:22:58 GMT -8
Post by crashlament on Jul 16, 2015 16:22:58 GMT -8
Looks like the little Hiyu is going to come out and play next week! Should be interesting to see how this is going to work on the Triangle! This shows you that the little ferry "SolDuc" calls the "Flying Saucer" isn't spinning away from us to another planet just yet. Marvin can wait. I think he has plans for her on Mars. But, I think Bugs has plans, too. To transport carrots stolen from Elmer's farm across the sound to his hole. LOLz FNS. You have a "looney" sense of humor!! LOL!
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Post by FNS on Jul 16, 2015 17:31:59 GMT -8
This shows you that the little ferry "SolDuc" calls the "Flying Saucer" isn't spinning away from us to another planet just yet. Marvin can wait. I think he has plans for her on Mars. But, I think Bugs has plans, too. To transport carrots stolen from Elmer's farm across the sound to his hole. LOLz FNS. You have a "looney" sense of humor!! LOL! In my growing up years, my favorite (favourite) day of the week was Saturday. I would turn on the TV that morning and watch the "Bugs Bunny Road Runner Hour" on CBS. Now, I can watch them any time I wish to on my iPhone, thanks to iTunes! I think the lanes which destination has the most vehicles in at the time she arrives Fauntleroy will be loaded aboard her for direct trips to that destination. This is my guess on what's planned for the HIYU. So, wait until the decision is made as to where she'll go before you get your ticket. It would be best to let the commuters board her first. If there's room for you joyriders after they board, take your ride. If not, wait for her to come back and try again.
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MV Hiyu
Jul 22, 2015 19:16:07 GMT -8
Post by EGfleet on Jul 22, 2015 19:16:07 GMT -8
Bye-bye, Hiyu
Ed Friedrich 5:13 PM, Jul 22, 2015 3 hours ago Kitsap Sun SOUTHWORTH — The Hiyu likely carried its last paying customers Wednesday. Though there’s still life in the steady little boat, Washington State Ferries has outgrown it. Only dire straits flung it into emergency service Monday, a situation not apt to occur again as new vessels enter the fleet. Four boats were unavailable this week. The 202-car Tacoma and 144-car Kaleetan are at the shipyard until September getting fresh paint. The 144-car Elwha is out four months for emergency repairs to a drive motor. The 202-car Puyallup was pulled Monday to repair a blown engine that’s been slowing it down. The ferries system covered its bases with the 87-car Evergreen State and Tillikum and the 34-car Hiyu, which provided unscheduled supplementary service on the Southworth-Vashon Island-Fauntleroy route. “The Hiyu is just old reliable,” said WSF operations port Capt. Pete Williams, who skippered the boat for six months in 1987-88. “It sits over there (at Eagle Harbor Maintenance Facility) and sits over there and all of a sudden, bam, we need to pull it out. We kick the cobwebs off, start it up and it putts down to Vashon.” For much of the past eight years, the Hiyu was the fleet’s only backup. New 144-car ferries Tokitae and Samish arrived over the past year, freeing the Evergreen State and Tillikum for standby duty, though they have been temporarily pulled into regular service during repairs to the Puyallup and Elwha. The Puyallup will return to the Bainbridge route Thursday morning, sending the Walla Walla back to Kingston and the Tillikum to Southworth-Vashon Island-Fauntleroy. The Hiyu will go back to Eagle Harbor and remain a funded standby vessel of last resort. The ferries system would like it to become a training boat or put to another use, spokesman Ian Sterling said. The Hiyu was built in 1967 in Portland, Oregon, specifically to replace the wooden ferry Skansonia on the Point Defiance-Tahlequah route. It remained there until the late 1980s and served as the San Juans inter-island boat until the late 1990s. It was mothballed for more than 10 years at Eagle Harbor before returning in 2007 for rare backup duty. Williams described the two-engine Hiyu as a slow sports car. “They have a lot of currents down there (on the Point Defiance route), so it was small and maneuverable,” he said. “It never had a lot of speed — 8 or 9 knots. It was like maneuvering a little sports car. You could go around stuff. It was just a fun little boat to operate.” The crew comprised just a captain, two deck hands and an engineer. When Williams worked there, they slept on the boat at Tahlequah. “The only place you could congregate was the pilothouse,” he said. “When we swapped ends, we’d just turn and walk about 8 feet to the other side.” Many customers were longtime islanders who didn’t want to get caught in the hubbub of the busier north-end route. Many were like family. The person who delivered newspapers to the boat early in the morning would quietly climb to the pilothouse and make coffee. Owners of a little mom-and-pop store spoiled the crew. Now there are too many people. “It’s easy to operate, has good fuel economy, small engines that are really reliable,” Williams said, listing the Hiyu’s assets. “The only issue is that our customer base has outgrown it.” www.kitsapsun.com/news/local-news/byebye-hiyu_19994714
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MV Hiyu
Jul 23, 2015 8:44:33 GMT -8
Post by FNS on Jul 23, 2015 8:44:33 GMT -8
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Post by crashlament on Jul 27, 2015 13:09:43 GMT -8
Here is a few spontaneous video on the Hiyu last week when she did her last stint at FVS including walkthrough and special departure feature! Enjoy!
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MV Hiyu
Jul 31, 2015 20:09:15 GMT -8
Post by FNS on Jul 31, 2015 20:09:15 GMT -8
Boy, your relatives must not be paying too much attention. There is a locally produced 22 page report (edited down from 39) on the HIYU's application here. It is backed up by about 40 pages of locally recorded interviews and conversations with the Industry, the State and others. More backup is in the form of about 500 pages of published reports from Industry, the Counties paid for reports since 2001, and others. The HIYU will run less expensively, carry more vehicles in a given time, be able to carry all legal sized vehicles, cost less to maintain, run with the same crew (after re-classification), has space for an ADA deck cabin, can positive cash flow in high season, farther emergency port access, and has enough lane space to provide legal auto egress, all things the Whatcom Chief cannot. Runs would be twice (x2) an hour for a legal carry capacity of about 72 cars (the State under-rates it's capacity) instead of the usually illegal carry capacity of 60 cars in three runs the Whatcom Chief carries. Further, in a 2005 study by Elliot Bay Design Group said the Whatcom Chief's maximum capacity, placed the Whatcom Chief at 100 cars per two hours, for 50 cars per hour, as it can't consistently maintain a 3 runs per hour, the HIYU can maintain 2, although at current passage rates it would not have to. The big elephant in the room is the Whatcom Chief's being overcrowded to be able to try to keep up with the traffic, legal load would be 10-14 cars, not 20. One of these days there will be either an accident or the Coast Guard will enforce the CFR. When that happens costs skyrocket, and capacity plummets, you think we have trouble now? Two runs per hour instead of three, with more capacity, big whoop, most will probably get on the first one and certainly on the second one, with 10 minutes less waiting on average. A local group survey said 68% of responders thought 2 trips were just fine. Right now the Whatcom Chief cost about 600K a year to maintain, it's age is making it a money pit. Currently yearly Dry-Dock costs about 200K, not including the cost of the work on the boat. By sharing the spare Ferry with Skagit County alone, it would pay for itself and give immediate back up for both Counties in case of ferry failure. San Juan may want to use the boat for Public Works uses, another plus. Then maintenance could be changed to do most of the work outside the shipyard, we have a place to do it out here, similar to what the WSF does. This is a win all the way around, more capacity, less cost, it just takes a change in purpose. The State wants to basically give us the HIYU, as one of the County Council said, "at that, let's get two (HIYU's)", at the Committee's presentation to the County Council's Public Works Committee. The investigation of the HIYU has caused a bit of a mini-controversy, those who want it, those who do not. The Ferry Board Committee's split, one going on it's own due to interference by the main board. The data is all over the local blog, with links to the report , the local references and the published ones. Actually, the best option would be to get the HIYU, sell the Chief and buy the 16 car TREK as a back up. The TREK has more legal vehicle capacity straight, wide enough, loading lanes, ADA compliant, and newer with 1/2 its life in fresh water. It's not quite the weather boat, but as a spare it will be fine. We will be putting a complete report and references at the Islander Store and the Library in the next few days. I wish I could put the report on here, but it's too long. The State would like her to keep operating here in Washington, they consider the lack of that to be a loss to the Taxpayers who bought her. Where do you want the HIYU to go, to B.C. like the Rhody, or the rotting at some dock somewhere, or Vietnam, or the scrap yard like the Steel Electrics, ?? The MV TREK, what is hoped to be the backup for the HIYU at Lummi Island, was spotted on Lake Washington today (07-31-2015): MV TREK on Lake Washington. The Steamer VIRGINIA V shares the scene with the TREK in this photo. The TREK was, amongst all the other floating objects on the lake, a platform to watch the Blue Angels do their Friday practice performance. "lifc" hopes this ferry would be north of this great mountain. We could use an ice cream cone today. That mountain needs no introduction as all of you know her name. And, north of Mount Index as well. All of the boats sounded their whistles at the end of the Angels' practice. The TREK's whistle sounds the same as the HIYU. So funny to see those toidies on her car deck. Don't enter one, though. There are bees in there making buckets full of honey (I think you know what I mean about the brand name of these). I think the TREK would be a good backup for the HIYU, if plans could ever leave the discussion phase there to reality. She also has an outdoor prom so passengers could get good pictures of Mount Baker.
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MV Hiyu
Aug 10, 2015 16:16:41 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 16:16:41 GMT -8
What was it like on the Hiyu when it was on Fauntleroy-Southworth-Vashon? Was it crowded or empty? How were the waits?
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Aug 26, 2015 16:49:41 GMT -8
Some of my Hiyu pics from when she was at the Triangle last month. Loading at Fauntleroy Looking across the water at the Issaquah and Cathlamet Main Car Deck Tunnel Side Car Deck Bridge Leaving Southworth WK Tour
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Post by northwesterner on Aug 26, 2015 19:47:48 GMT -8
Some of my Hiyu pics from when she was at the Triangle last month. WK Tour Note the bottled water cooler in the video. Maybe WSF is outfitting her to Todd Stone standards for a possible sale to BCF as a Nimpkish replacement.
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MV Hiyu
Aug 28, 2015 19:01:51 GMT -8
Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Aug 28, 2015 19:01:51 GMT -8
Does the Hiyu have its original engines or did she get them replaced at some point. If they are original, how fragile are they since they would be 48 years old?
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MV Hiyu
Aug 28, 2015 21:02:29 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Aug 28, 2015 21:02:29 GMT -8
Does the Hiyu have its original engines or did she get them replaced at some point. If they are original, how fragile are they since they would be 48 years old? As far as I know they're original equipment. But they are well-maintained, and bear in mind that they don't have anywhere near 48 years' worth of service hours on them.
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MV Hiyu
Aug 29, 2015 8:30:04 GMT -8
Post by lifc on Aug 29, 2015 8:30:04 GMT -8
The Hiyu indeed has its original engines. They have never been run hard and due to her intermittent use, have about 1/2 their life left. Parts are available and these are some of the most durable engines Cat ever built.
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MV Hiyu
Sept 15, 2015 15:17:55 GMT -8
Post by crashlament on Sept 15, 2015 15:17:55 GMT -8
The Hiyu indeed has its original engines. They have never been run hard and due to her intermittent use, have about 1/2 their life left. Parts are available and these are some of the most durable engines Cat ever built. I like the Hiyu's engines, but my favorite engines are that of the Rhody.
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MV Hiyu
Sept 15, 2015 15:20:05 GMT -8
Post by crashlament on Sept 15, 2015 15:20:05 GMT -8
What was it like on the Hiyu when it was on Fauntleroy-Southworth-Vashon? Was it crowded or empty? How were the waits? It was extremely crowded, but she did fine, for a tiny boat.
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MV Hiyu
Sept 15, 2015 15:33:52 GMT -8
Post by crashlament on Sept 15, 2015 15:33:52 GMT -8
I thought it was very unusual riding such a tiny boat on a route like the FVS triangle when I'm used to boats such as the Evergreens or Issaquahs, but I enjoyed it.
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MV Hiyu
Oct 1, 2015 19:38:28 GMT -8
Post by captjoe on Oct 1, 2015 19:38:28 GMT -8
Does anyone know the current status of Hiyu? I heard rumors of going to Lummi Island?
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MV Hiyu
Oct 1, 2015 20:20:53 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 1, 2015 20:20:53 GMT -8
Does anyone know the current status of Hiyu? I heard rumors of going to Lummi Island? The most recent maintenance schedule (updated 10/01) lists her status as "pending" for the remainder of the year. She was supposed to have been decommissioned in late June/early July. I don't know if she is being kept as a backup for Pierce County (the Steilacoom II is still at Vigor).
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 2, 2015 4:00:02 GMT -8
Does anyone know the current status of Hiyu? I heard rumors of going to Lummi Island? There are problems with using it at Lummi; most notably that the Hiyu is only five years newer than the Whatcom Chief, but there's also the lack of draft on the Lummi side (the Hiyu needs two more feet than a zero tide will provide). The other "problem" is that according to the meeting minutes, the Lummi Island ferry committee isn't interested.
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