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Post by Barnacle on Jul 4, 2015 5:44:48 GMT -8
Too bad the fourth Mark II wasn't in the budget. It would really come in handy right now and last summer with the Tacoma. The plus side is that the proposed name for the fourth Mark II was "Sequim." As in "Sink or Sequim."
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Post by maximase86 on Jul 4, 2015 23:53:21 GMT -8
Rode on the Puyallup today. It seems that they are being extra careful and slowing her down way in advance of landing in the slip than normal. Err'ing in the side of caution just in case they happen to loose another main generator it seems.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 6, 2015 5:16:20 GMT -8
Puyallup still in service this morning. Not sure whats going to happen now. At least the bigger boats are still where they are needed today.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Jul 6, 2015 7:14:07 GMT -8
Puyallup still in service this morning. Not sure whats going to happen now. At least the bigger boats are still where they are needed today. I think they are waiting for traffic to die down so they can do the downsizing at Bainbridge, Mukilteo, and Kingston without a huge impact because of the 4th of July weekend.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 6, 2015 10:07:59 GMT -8
Now I hear it may be around the week of the 20th
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Post by zargoman on Jul 7, 2015 5:13:47 GMT -8
And now the Puyallup is out of service...as in "broke down".
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Post by FNS on Jul 7, 2015 5:30:56 GMT -8
And now the Puyallup is out of service...as in "broke down". And, now fixed. From: Washington State Ferries <WSFAlert@wsdot.wa.gov> Subject: Ferry Alert: Sea/BI - Puyallup Repaired Date: Jul 7, 2015 6:18 AM
Repairs on the Puyallup have been completed and it will return to service with the 7:05am sailing from Bainbridge Island.
This alert was sent on 7/7/2015 at 6:17AM to subscribers of the Seattle / Bainbridge Island route.
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Post by R30A on Jul 8, 2015 12:59:00 GMT -8
As suggested the vessel maintenance schedule is now showing the Puyallyup's time out of service on the week of July 20. The Walla Walla is planned to replace it, being directly displaced from Edmonds-Kingston by the Evergreen State and Tillikum.
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Post by whitieiii on Jul 19, 2015 20:46:47 GMT -8
Don't look so good for kingston as we barely get by with the two jumbos
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 20, 2015 10:52:30 GMT -8
Can I ask why WSF is inspecting the engine that broke down on June 20th right now? I really did not understand why the WSF did not inspect the engine the weekend after she engine broke down to help reduce the pain on travels that people are going on.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 20, 2015 15:55:23 GMT -8
Can I ask why WSF is inspecting the engine that broke down on June 20 th right now? I really did not understand why the WSF did not inspect the engine the weekend after she engine broke down to help reduce the pain on travels that people are going on. This isn't inspection; it's repairs. I don't have anything solid on this, but... ARMCHAIR SPECULATION BELOW:I suspect WSF might've taken a little time to get the necessary parts to make the necessary repairs. If the boat could be operated during that interim, why take it out of service needlessly?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 20, 2015 18:02:01 GMT -8
Can I ask why WSF is inspecting the engine that broke down on June 20 th right now? I really did not understand why the WSF did not inspect the engine the weekend after she engine broke down to help reduce the pain on travels that people are going on. This isn't inspection; it's repairs. I don't have anything solid on this, but... ARMCHAIR SPECULATION BELOW:I suspect WSF might've taken a little time to get the necessary parts to make the necessary repairs. If the boat could be operated during that interim, why take it out of service needlessly? To help reduce the capacity lost when it isn't affecting peoples ability to get to work., that is why they should have done it on weekend.
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Post by R30A on Jul 20, 2015 18:44:07 GMT -8
Now this is just speculation on my part, but pulling the boat before Monday sounds like they were specifically trying to avoid taking it out of service on a Weekend. Perhaps either Edmonds-Kingston or Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth have weekend peaks? Based on the service notices I get in my email, I have seen a lot of weekend events affecting both routes. Despite the Puyallup being on Bainbridge, that route really isn't seeing that big of a change...
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 20, 2015 18:59:49 GMT -8
Now this is just speculation on my part, but pulling the boat before Monday sounds like they were specifically trying to avoid taking it out of service on a Weekend. Perhaps either Edmonds-Kingston or Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth have weekend peaks? Based on the service notices I get in my email, I have seen a lot of weekend events affecting both routes. Despite the Puyallup being on Bainbridge, that route really isn't seeing that big of a change... There were 2 festivals this past weekend. The Strawberry Festival on Vashon and the Lavender Festival in Sequim.
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Post by northwesterner on Jul 20, 2015 20:18:08 GMT -8
Now this is just speculation on my part, but pulling the boat before Monday sounds like they were specifically trying to avoid taking it out of service on a Weekend. Perhaps either Edmonds-Kingston or Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth have weekend peaks? Based on the service notices I get in my email, I have seen a lot of weekend events affecting both routes. Despite the Puyallup being on Bainbridge, that route really isn't seeing that big of a change... Edmonds-Kingston definitely has a huge weekend peak in the summer. I think the three boat service should be fine for capacity at Edmonds-Kingston. As for F-V-S, they've done two boat on weekdays w/o the Hiyu (and a smaller 2nd vessel) so they will be tight but should get by.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Sept 10, 2015 17:23:28 GMT -8
I noticed the Puyallup is going to Drydock before the Wenatchee does for a few days, is that to fix the engine completely, because it has been on and off the maintenance schedule. Also, what is going to happen during the Dockside work?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 8, 2015 9:02:57 GMT -8
From the WA State Ferries Twitter page:
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Post by rusty on Oct 9, 2015 21:45:55 GMT -8
Great boat. The best of the Mark II's in my opinion. Great work by the engine crew.
They maximized reliability in that class by maximizing redundancy. Unfortunately that leads to complexity, which causes its own reliability issues.
The Tacoma has found the end of a tow rope while on the run a couple of times. In my thirty years on the boats, never needed a tow while in service. Except those early
days on the Issaquah.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 10, 2015 14:28:02 GMT -8
In my thirty years on the boats, never needed a tow while in service. Except those early days on the Issaquah. Those don't count. EVERYONE came in on the end of a line at some point during those days.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Oct 13, 2015 20:00:19 GMT -8
She's back at the Edmonds-Kingston route for the first time in over a year!
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Post by rickycourtney on Oct 13, 2015 21:10:54 GMT -8
She's back at the Edmonds-Kingston route for the first time in over a year! Enjoy her for the next few days. The Puyallup is back on Ed/King run so the Spokane can spend a few days in dry dock. When the Spokane comes out of dry dock, it will be the Puyallup's turn for a few days in dry dock. After that Puyallup is expected to return to the Sea/BI run so the Wenatchee can go in for a much longer stint in dry dock (a month and a half). The Puyallup isn't expected to be back on Ed/King full time until early December (even then she will only be there a few weeks before she's scheduled to spend some time at Eagle Harbor).
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 22, 2015 16:42:05 GMT -8
Boarding the Puyallup at Bainbridge for Seattle at Slip 2 The bridge and passenger decks of the Puyallup as we board The empty lot that was emptied into the belly of the Puyallup Loading the last of the cars onto the Puyallup for the 5:30pm sailing to Seattle at Bainbridge's Slip 2 (taken from the Sun Deck) The Puyallup's name plate on the Sun Deck
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Post by rickycourtney on Dec 2, 2015 22:39:04 GMT -8
The Puyallup was severely damaged this morning when it appears that a chain or a cable became wrapped around the propeller shaft. As seen in this video many of the bolts on the shaft were sheared off and at least one other was badly mangled.
Washington State Ferries says the Puyallup will be out of service for weeks and the repairs will require the ferry be put into dry dock. WSF says they hope to expedite the work currently being done on the Wenachee, I assume that's both to get a second Jumbo Mark II back in service and free up dry dock space for the Puyallup.
Also for the first time in a long time the Bremerton run is now being served by a Jumbo Mark II class ferry and a Super class ferry. WSF says that at this time they don't plan to reposition one of the Jumbo class ferries from the Edmonds-Kingston run down to Seattle-Bainbridge Island run.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 3, 2015 5:24:59 GMT -8
Also for the first time in a long time the Bremerton run is now being served by a Jumbo Mark II class ferry and a Super class ferry. WSF says that at this time they don't plan to reposition one of the Jumbo class ferries from the Edmonds-Kingston run down to Seattle-Bainbridge Island run. Bremerton is being served by Issaquah and Kaleetan, not by a JMII. Tacoma and Hyak are now on the Bainbridge run, until they can free up Wenatchee.
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Post by northwesterner on Dec 3, 2015 17:44:10 GMT -8
Also for the first time in a long time the Bremerton run is now being served by a Jumbo Mark II class ferry and a Super class ferry. WSF says that at this time they don't plan to reposition one of the Jumbo class ferries from the Edmonds-Kingston run down to Seattle-Bainbridge Island run. Bremerton is being served by Issaquah and Kaleetan, not by a JMII. Tacoma and Hyak are now on the Bainbridge run, until they can free up Wenatchee. It also seems unclear what advantage there would be to bringing down a Jumbo class vessel from Edmonds-Kingston in the offseason versus just using the Hyak on Bainbridge Island. For many years, the assumption we always made on this forum (and occasionally played out in real life) was that a Super class vessel was actually better on Bainbridge than a Jumbo class vessel. Why? Because they were at one time rated for 2500 passengers, the same as the Jumbo Mark II vessels. Of course, after the Seahawks game fiasco as well as limiting the number of walk-ons the day the Tacoma bit the dust a couple of summers ago, it came out that the Jumbos and the Supers both only have 600 passengers worth of life rafts on board. Thus, the walk-on capacity of the vessel is equal to the lifesaving capacity of the parallel vessel on the route (in this case, the Tacoma, 1200) plus the vessel itself (Jumbos and Supers are both at 600). With either a Jumbo or Super on Bainbridge, the max passengers carried per trip is the same (600+1200=1800). It is interesting to note that the vessel licenses and crewing requirements are actually done up to the maximum capacity of passengers (as determined by lifejackets on board ... the Supers are down to 2000 pax or below) but there is no possible scenario where either a Jumbo or Super class can work in tandem with another vessel and actually carry the maximum number of passengers on board, because of limited life raft capacities. I think this is all a big mess, especially when a breakdown with no replacement on a walk-on heavy route effectively reduces the route walk-on capacity to 25% of what it would be with both vessels operating.
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