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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Dec 12, 2006 21:41:50 GMT -8
I'm reading the "pacific princesses" right now, and it says that the Princess Louise is the oldest surviving princess. Is this still true? it says she was turned into a restaurant, did that survive? Also, just a random question: is there any other princess's that have survived besides the Princess Marguerite (ll)?
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Post by bcfcbccsscollector on Dec 17, 2006 15:36:35 GMT -8
The Princess Louise may have been the oldest surviving Princess, but that is no more. She ended up as a restaurant in California, but after being sold and moved across the harbour, she sank. Although refloated, she was not salvageable. She was going to be towed out to be a floating reef, but went down again before her final spot, somewhere in San Pedro channel.
Probably the only surviving Princess (Or part of for that matter), would be the Princess Mary. For those who do not know already, the main-aft section of the ship was removed and used as a cafeteria for Island Tug and Barge employees after she was retired. She has been on Harbour Rd. in Victoria since, and efforts are being made to return this section to Powell River, which was one of the ports frequented by this ship, as the site she is on is being re-developed.
Actually, the Princess Marguerite II is now gone as well. I believe she was sold to a foreign interest to be used as a hotel or something similar, but never came to fruition. I thought she was destroyed by fire, but after researching the subject, it turns out the "Maggie" ended up at Alang after the hotel venture failed, so we all know what happened to her.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 17, 2006 20:13:13 GMT -8
bcfcbccsscollector,
Any information on what was the fate of the Princess Patricia?
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Post by bcfcbccsscollector on Dec 17, 2006 21:35:41 GMT -8
Hi there Jim,
As to the fate of the Princess Patricia, best I can find is that she was used as a hotel ship for Expo 86, then sold to a Taiwanese interest as a ferry, but never came to be. She was scrapped sometime thereafter. Another sad end to the BC coastal fleet.
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Post by mrdot on Mar 8, 2011 13:39:22 GMT -8
:)that post card vue, is very similar to what I used as my guide to my portrayal, which is featured in my last signature display, which with my brother's help I will change up to one of the grand trunk north coast pioneers. Louise, and the last Prince George were fine examples of our onetime west coast shipbuilding ability. :)thanks to EG for his continuing postings! :)mrdot.
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 8, 2011 19:51:33 GMT -8
This coloured drawing of the Princess Louise is the original work of Mr. DOT, and has been serving as his 'signature' picture for some time. Clicking on the picture will take you to a higher resolution version... Original artwork © D. O. Thorne Hosted on the WCK[/color] Flicker Site[/size]
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Post by Scott on Mar 8, 2011 22:45:09 GMT -8
This coloured drawing of the Princess Louise is the original work of Mr. DOT, and has been serving as his 'signature' picture for some time. Clicking on the picture will take you to a higher resolution version... Original artwork © D. O. Thorne Hosted on the WCK[/color] Flicker Site[/size] [/quote] Beautiful picture! Is that a drawing or a painting?
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Post by mrdot on Mar 8, 2011 23:10:29 GMT -8
:)technically these are tinted drawings that my brother has collected from my book of detailed sketches and some have been given a watercolor wash. Most of this body of work was done very early in my working years, and dates to my original BC ferry days! :)mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 20, 2011 19:22:02 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 19, 2011 19:23:02 GMT -8
Postcard of CP's Princess Louise - no name shown for the postcard company nor for the photographer.
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 19, 2011 23:12:20 GMT -8
Postcard of CP's Princess Louise - no name shown for the postcard company nor for the photographer. Are you sure that this one isn't just a printout of this BC Archives image?
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 19, 2011 23:22:31 GMT -8
Postcard of CP's Princess Louise - no name shown for the postcard company nor for the photographer. Are you sure that this one isn't just a printout of this BC Archives image? Or vice vesa?
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Post by FNS on Dec 19, 2011 23:29:17 GMT -8
From a photo at the Victoria Maritime Museum, we see the launch of the PRINCESS LOUISE:
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 19, 2011 23:41:52 GMT -8
Likely, but I meant the copy that Flugel has in his possession. It appears to have been printed off the BCA website, or acquired from BC Archives. It has their computerized titling on the bottom of it.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 20, 2011 8:46:51 GMT -8
Are you sure that this one isn't just a printout of this BC Archives image? Likely, but I meant the copy that Flugel has in his possession. It appears to have been printed off the BCA website, or acquired from BC Archives. It has their computerized titling on the bottom of it. ------------------ First-off, thanks for noticing the connection between my postcard and the BC Archives. I missed that one.... (commence the playful response to your question) Are you asking me if I'm an idiot? - I bought a postcard. It's a postcard. - the back is the back of a postcard. I described it as a "postcard" when I posted the photo of the postcard, because it is a postcard, because I held it, saw it, and have put it away in a box where I store my other postcards. ....so are you saying that I didn't know what I was doing or seeing or touching? Here's a photo of the backside of a similar postcard with the exact same style of backside - the price-spot on the top-right hand corner appears to indicate that this really is an old postcard. The condition and smell of it also makes me believe that it's old, at least older than 25 years....haha No doubt that it is the same photo, and no doubt that the font style at the bottom of the card is what we also see on the BC Archives website. - so there must be some connection. ....but there's no doubt that what I possess really is a postcard. Why are they the same font and same photo? I don't know. I suspect that if you consider the 2 eras of "postcards" and "websites", you might reject the idea that this postcard was printed from the BCArchives website. ....but it's very likely that this postcard was created using a photo from the actual (bricks & mortar) BC Archives collections. ...I'll wait for your similar question when I post my 1907 postcard of the Princess Victoria. haha ;D Oh wait, it has a postmark and a King Edward VII stamp on it.
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 20, 2011 9:22:58 GMT -8
Flugel Horn = 1, Idiot = 0.
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Post by Variable Pitch on Dec 21, 2011 10:10:44 GMT -8
Well I've had a look and this is what I have come up with... First of all, the picture is identified in the right lower corner as McRae, which could be McRae Bros., who operated out of Prince Rupert in the 1910s. Next, look at the image up close with a magnifying glass. Do you see spots? If so, then you have a lithograph or photogravure. I have seen McRae RPPC's before, and usually the backing is simply marked "Postcard" with "Correspondence" and "Address" below. Some include "Made in Canada". How to identify the approximate age, is the stamp box beside it. There were various types of paper used (Azo, Velox, Cyko, Ansco, EKC, CKC and many others) Azo was the most common. With Azo for example, the age is identified by the corners. If there is a triangle facing up in each corner, then it was between 1904 and 1918. Two up, two down was between 1910 and 1930. And the most common, four squares was between 1924 and 1949. Below is an example. Now back to your card. If it was a genuine McRae RPPC, it would have a stamp box, likely either Azo or Velox. What leads me to suspect it is a reproduction, was what was stated earlier... that the title in the white border matches the print of the photo from the archives. Second, that the image is cut off on the left side. Since these were printed from the negative, which was the exact same size as the postcard (Google "folding pocket Kodak" or Brownie) the stern should be in view. Third, the backing doesn't fit. Most cards that age, still retain a clean appearance (referring to ink). They brown over age, but the ink still keeps it's integrity. I can't say for certain that this is an archives generated card, but from a 2 dimensional perspective it isn't a genuine McRae card. Looks like whoever did it, was trying to give an aged look, but it's also not to say it wasn't reproduced 30 or more years ago. Any other questions, just fire away..
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Post by Variable Pitch on Dec 21, 2011 11:21:12 GMT -8
My Gowen, Sutton RPPC of the Louise in First Narrows (where Gowen, Sutton shot most of the CPR - BC coastal steamships)
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Post by Neil on Jan 17, 2012 16:17:52 GMT -8
From the Vancouver Sun:
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 16, 2012 15:00:38 GMT -8
Just got this unlabeled slide. I believe it is the Princess Louise, given the length of the name but I'm not up on my CPR steamers as I am WSF ferries.
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Post by mrdot on Oct 16, 2012 15:20:23 GMT -8
:)indeed it's Princess Louise tied up at the last winter lay up berth at the old CPR coast service docks in Victoria,s inner harbour with Bapco paints onetime plant just behind her, one of the only steamers the CPR coast fleet had built here in BC at the present day Burrard DD yard. She was a fine vessel for the Alaska cruise of past years! Mrdot.
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 1, 2016 8:39:10 GMT -8
Nice slide shot of the Princess Louise making some speed. Probably 1950's.
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