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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2010 18:45:43 GMT -8
The change at the bow would no doubt have had a secondary benefit of improving the bow view during docking procedures at Tsawwassen. Only at Tsawwassen? ...or anywhere else that they would dock bow-in.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 27, 2010 18:49:07 GMT -8
Ok, seriously. No, obviously not just at Tsawwassen. When I said Tsawwassen I meant just that. Consider that the Victoria, and her V class sisters, were being used exclusively on route 1, that means that they would only ever dock at Tsawwassen or Swartz Bay. At Swartz Bay they always go in by the stern. Further, route 30 did not exist then, and routes 2 and 3 were being served by the C class or unlifted B's. I am certain that a lifted 'V' never ventured north to Horseshoe Bay until the Spirits arrived in the early 1990's. That leaves just Tsawwassen....
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 5, 2010 20:22:52 GMT -8
A few more oldies for you... Queen of Victoria backing out of Tsawwassen Terminal in 1981 or 82 Both photos by DOT
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 5, 2010 20:45:00 GMT -8
I am back home now and my scanners are back in action. I have two photos from my brother's collection both taken @ Swartz Bay around about 1990. Q of VictoriaBoth photos by DOT ©High-res versions of both photos can be found on my photobucket site linked below.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 6, 2010 21:00:07 GMT -8
This could be any V-class, so I'll just put it here.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 6, 2010 21:21:50 GMT -8
Take a close-look at the middle-windows in the bridge. - they don't look like the Vic/Van style of middle windows. Do you think this is a primitive photo-shopped postcard? I am scanning some post cards from my brother's collection. Tonight the Queen of Victoria c1964. Stan V. Wright Ltd. post card; photographer: W. J. L. Gibbons [DOT collection]
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 6, 2010 23:01:50 GMT -8
Actually, the Victoria was originally built with the like that with the windows running straight across. They tried out the 3 lower windows with the Vancouver first, and then decided to do the same to the Victoria shortly after for whatever reason. I tried to find a photo of it, but there's a photo somewhere of the Victoria being launched and she clearly just had the windows running straight across.
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Post by FNS on Dec 7, 2010 0:52:39 GMT -8
There was one distinguishing different feature that separated the "V-Class" and the "E-Class" apart. This is in relation to the mechanical structure on the tops of these ferries. If you can see the area within the red circle, you see that the face of this structure is flat. The "V-Class" (VICTORIA and VANCOUVER) had the flat face on this structure. Design improvements gave the "E-Class" (ESQUIMALT and SAANICH) a curved slant-back face on this structure. That carried over to the "N-Class" (NANAIMO, NEW WESTMINSTER, and BURNABY), but those show more of their stack as the "under dress" does not go around the aft end of the stack on those three ferries.
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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2010 11:39:32 GMT -8
Actually, the Victoria was originally built with the like that with the windows running straight across. They tried out the 3 lower windows with the Vancouver first, and then decided to do the same to the Victoria shortly after for whatever reason. I tried to find a photo of it, but there's a photo somewhere of the Victoria being launched and she clearly just had the windows running straight across. Here's a photo that shows how the bridge windows were oriented originally. This looks to be from when the Victoria was launched.
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Post by FNS on Dec 13, 2010 11:54:45 GMT -8
Yes, that was the VICTORIA when she was launched. Notice the launch apparatus on the surface of the water. Still a lot of hardware to be installed as you see in this photo.
She was originally named CITY OF VICTORIA before being renamed QUEEN OF VICTORIA.
The inset shows her after her lengthening and lifting.
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Post by Blisswood on Jan 20, 2011 18:47:55 GMT -8
There is some good colour ferry pictures on a CPAC series called "The Premiers". Each province's most outstanding premier (we'll not debate that point here) was profiled. W.A.C. Bennett was selected for British Columbia. About halfway through this 30-minute show is a half-minute of ferry footage. The horn is obviously from an old steamer, but you see a pre-1970 Victoria and one of her sisters going through Active Pass, Prince Rupert underway and what I'm convinced is Burnaby's launching. You also see Bennett and a seaman raising the company flag. I have this on VHS but am unable to upload it. Go to CPAC.ca (Cable Public Affairs Channel - the parliamentary channel) and look for The Premiers.Update June 21/20: Sorry, but you can't get "The Premiers" on the CPAC web site anymore. I wonder if that and its companion series "The Prime Ministers" are buried in some file cabinet in the CPAC office.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 20, 2011 18:52:08 GMT -8
There is some good colour ferry pictures on a CPAC series called "The Premiers". Each province's most outstanding premier (we'll not debate that point here) was profiled. W.A.C. Bennett was selected for British Columbia. About halfway through this 30-minute show is a half-minute of ferry footage. The horn is obviously from an old steamer, but you see a pre-1970 Victoria and one of her sisters going through Active Pass, Prince Rupert underway and what I'm convinced is Burnaby's launching. You also see Bennett and a seaman raising the company flag. I have this on VHS but am unable to upload it. Go to CPAC.ca (Cable Public Affairs Channel - the parliamentary channel) and look for The Premiers. Would just like to follow up on such video, and post a link. www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?dsp=template&act=view3&pagetype=vod&hl=e&clipID=2465
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Post by Blisswood on Apr 3, 2011 15:06:57 GMT -8
Two questions about 1970: 1. An inquiry under the Canada Shipping Act was conducted by Mr. Justice E.J.C. Stewart. Being a federal document, the BC Provincial Archives does not have it, although a newspaper article in their microfilmed clipping files noted the report had been issued. It also stated the document is 57 pages long. Any thoughts on how to locate a copy of this report? This obviously predates the Transportation Safety Board, which website I've used extensively to look up air and marine incident reports.
2. Were passengers prohibited from the car deck before the accident or did this happen as a result of it? I always thought the accident caused the prohibition.
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Post by Blisswood on Apr 3, 2011 15:12:00 GMT -8
Many (belated) thanks to Ferryman for posting the CPAC link (reply #329).
Update June 21/20: Unfortunately, the station doesn't give access to it anymore...it's a dead link.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Jun 2, 2011 21:50:46 GMT -8
I really thought I'd posted this 20 year-old pic on here a couple years ago. It's not anywhere in this thread so maybe not. Anyway it's a pic of the buffet lounge on the Queen of Victoria. It was taken while the Vic was loading for the 1700 departure from Swartz Bay's berth 1. I realize the ship's name isn't visible, but you can make out the mural of BC's parliament buildings on the back wall.
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Post by Scott on Jul 22, 2011 21:50:41 GMT -8
Just a repost of a scan from way back in 2006. The photo was no longer available after Geocities went down. I have since located it and repost it now. This newspaper clip was sent to me via e-mail from a Canadian living in London back in 2006:
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Post by Neil on Jul 22, 2011 22:30:46 GMT -8
Just a repost of a scan from way back in 2006. The photo was no longer available after Geocities went down. I have since located it and repost it now. This newspaper clip was sent to me via e-mail from a Canadian living in London back in 2006: Just wondering if any of our resident computer wizards could take that photo and doctor it to show what the ' Victoria would have looked like, in the water, with that rebuilt bow, all painted white. I don't think we have any photos of her in service in that altered form.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 23, 2011 7:23:33 GMT -8
I believe you are looking for this picture: Actually of the Queen of Richmond, but still a close stand in.
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Post by Blisswood on Aug 2, 2011 19:11:23 GMT -8
Re my April 3 question about the Stewart Inquiry into the 1970 accident: there's a copy on the Save Our Ferries site, which I found via a link from this site. Thank you.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 26, 2011 21:30:00 GMT -8
Here is a fresh scan from an old slide. It shows the Queen of Victoria in Active Pass heading for Swartz Bay. The date - 3 June 1973. This was likely the 7:00 AM ferry from Tsawwassen. I am not 100% certain that this is 'Miss Vickie'. It is either her or her identical twin (the Vancouver). The name shown at bow & stern is not clear, but does appear to be shorter, hence the Victoria. Clicking on the photo will take you to a higher resolution version on Flickr. From the JST Flickr photo site ©
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Post by chinook2 on Oct 25, 2011 18:25:03 GMT -8
Lovely footage shot on board Queen of Victoria while in service, from the 1973 feature "Harry In Your Pocket".
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 25, 2011 18:45:15 GMT -8
Lovely footage shot on board Queen of Victoria while in service, from the 1973 feature "Harry In Your Pocket". For those with time restraints, the QVic footage starts at the 6:58 mark. Swartz Bay appears in the background at the start. The footage runs until around the 10:50 mark. Immediately thereafter, there is footage of a WSF super for a couple seconds.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Oct 25, 2011 18:52:50 GMT -8
Lovely footage shot on board Queen of Victoria while in service, from the 1973 feature "Harry In Your Pocket". That's a great clip! Certainly longer than most 4- or 5-second clips that that the ferries are usually featured in. It's quite something since this is decades before we were known as "Hollywood North". A great showcase for both the Queen of Victoria and our local scenery. Loved how the lifeboat served as just another passenger lounge area LOL!
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 25, 2011 19:12:40 GMT -8
For those with time restraints, the QVic footage starts at the 6:58 mark. Swartz Bay appears in the background at the start. The footage runs until around the 10:50 mark. Immediately thereafter, there is footage of a WSF super for a couple seconds. Yep. That shot was from West Seattle with one of the Bremerton-bound Supers in the background. That was a pretty short clip before jumping back to the Pat Bay Highway. I'm curious as to why they threw it in there. Everything else was authentic BC.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 26, 2011 6:36:03 GMT -8
For those with time restraints, the QVic footage starts at the 6:58 mark. Swartz Bay appears in the background at the start. The footage runs until around the 10:50 mark. Immediately thereafter, there is footage of a WSF super for a couple seconds. Yep. That shot was from West Seattle with one of the Bremerton-bound Supers in the background. That was a pretty short clip before jumping back to the Pat Bay Highway. I'm curious as to why they threw it in there. Everything else was authentic BC. Oddly enough, according to the IMDB entry, the movie was supposed to be set in Seattle. I've never seen it, so I don't know.
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