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Post by 1foot2ships on Nov 10, 2023 16:05:40 GMT -8
all pm sailings between the mainland and the island were cancelled around noon td (anticipated high winds)
sailings off the island sold out around 1400. currently only 1 boat with space remains leaving hsb at 1835 (78%?).
anybody out there right now?
how do our storms affect puget sound?
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 10, 2023 19:16:01 GMT -8
how do our storms affect puget sound? Our waters are generally more protected, so less likely to see cancellations. That said, Port Townsend-Coupeville sailings are cancelled this evening, but that route is more exposed than the central and south sound crossings. Anacortes boats are running late but not cancelled. wsdot.com/ferries/schedule/bulletin.aspx
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 17, 2023 17:51:40 GMT -8
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Post by cbachmeier on Nov 29, 2023 12:20:46 GMT -8
The Salish Heron is going to be on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay Route in December???? Stuff like this hasint happened in ages (a smaller more intermidate boat on this route)??
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Post by 1foot2ships on Nov 30, 2023 15:04:30 GMT -8
The Salish Heron is going to be on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay Route in December??? i just checked, you are right! and its already doing it td, right now. neat experience if you are able to catch one of these rare 2hr rt.1 sailings. (i think it replaces everything QNW was doing until the 8th)
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Post by cbachmeier on Nov 30, 2023 16:19:27 GMT -8
The Salish Heron is going to be on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay Route in December??? i just checked, you are right! and its already doing it td, right now. neat experience if you are able to catch one of these rare 2hr rt.1 sailings. (i think it replaces everything QNW was doing until the 8th) Yeah that sounds right because the QNW is in refit right now.
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Post by Neil on Nov 30, 2023 21:58:26 GMT -8
The Salish Heron is going to be on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay Route in December??? i just checked, you are right! and its already doing it td, right now. neat experience if you are able to catch one of these rare 2hr rt.1 sailings. (i think it replaces everything QNW was doing until the 8th) I guess I'm one of the few people on here who've done a Salish trip from Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay, but that was a Tsawwassen-Galiano-Mayne-Pender-Swartz Bay crossing that then went on to Long Harbour. I think that still operates once a week in the summer.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 3, 2023 17:59:58 GMT -8
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jan 7, 2024 23:04:54 GMT -8
QOB is out of service and begins refit tm on the 8th
i think that leaves coquitlam taking her place?
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Post by Jess on Jan 8, 2024 12:24:02 GMT -8
QOB is out of service and begins refit tm on the 8th i think that leaves coquitlam taking her place? yes that is correct. Hopefully the Oak Bay will be back soon
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Post by 1foot2ships on Jan 9, 2024 7:22:24 GMT -8
the high winds td have tied up the first two sailings for rt1, but the high winds are ok for rt30? can somebody explain?
(rt2 is running as scheduled however)
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Post by Dane on Jan 9, 2024 13:08:38 GMT -8
the high winds td have tied up the first two sailings for rt1, but the high winds are ok for rt30? can somebody explain? (rt2 is running as scheduled however) Ability of the double ended vessels to dock is "superior" to the single ended boats that don't benefit from props at both ends / rely on thrusters.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 9, 2024 13:46:23 GMT -8
the high winds td have tied up the first two sailings for rt1, but the high winds are ok for rt30? can somebody explain? (rt2 is running as scheduled however) Ability of the double ended vessels to dock is "superior" to the single ended boats that don't benefit from props at both ends / rely on thrusters. I think this may have more to do with route 1 vessels running more or less broadside to the wind & waves whereas route 30 vessels are either going straight into the wind/waves, or with the wind/waves behind them. Also, for as few days each year the location of Tsawwassen Terminal becomes a liability as it is poorly situated with respect to wind/waves from some directions. Occasionally waves make make it right up to parking lot elevation. In such situations all sailing on all three routes would be cancelled.
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Post by Ollie on Jan 9, 2024 13:59:28 GMT -8
Why aren’t the Salishes cancelled, but route 1 is? They are very similar routes.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 9, 2024 13:59:58 GMT -8
There was also a wind forecast for the area "South of Tsawwassen", that was exceeding wind parameters for the route 1 vessels. At forecasts with 30 knots or more, discussions will begin. At 40+k knot forecasts, it's usually a full stop. Sometimes wind forecasts are off a little bit, and sometimes the wind speed will actually be more than forecasted. I've been in 50-60 knot winds off of Tsawwassen a number of times when it was only forecasted to be 30-40 knots. I've also seen the reverse of that many times, where the wind doesn't turn out to be all that severe. Wind directions can also have a huge impact, which in certain directions will kick up a higher sea state due to room to fetch the wind. For example, the NW'ly winds at Tsawwassen, where they will receive the brunt of the waves from wind coming from the Northwest. It's a tough call to make, where you're damned if you do, or damned if you don't, either way weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=14305Wind forecasts are taken from the Marine Weather website from Environment Canada, along with direct consultation with meteorologists at Environment Canada. They also review data from four weather buoys on the strait: Just east of Galiano/Valdes Islands, Halibut Bank (west of Bowen), English Bay, and Sentry Shoal (North of Little River). There you'll find hourly wind and sea state values and trends. Select the "weather conditions" tab within the above link to find buoy reports
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 9, 2024 17:10:30 GMT -8
Why aren’t the Salishes cancelled, but route 1 is? They are very similar routes. Perhaps because those vessels present less 'sail' to the wind.
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Post by Ollie on Jan 10, 2024 22:24:30 GMT -8
BC Ferries Service Notice for the Queen of Cumberland's refit:
She returns to service on February 8.
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Post by Ollie on Feb 21, 2024 12:38:08 GMT -8
I noticed the BC Ferries service notices no longer specify the ferry name. It makes it much more difficult to tell which sailing is actually delayed. Why would they do this?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 21, 2024 13:24:23 GMT -8
I noticed the BC Ferries service notices no longer specify the ferry name. It makes it much more difficult to tell which sailing is actually delayed. Why would they do this? I know there updating service notices which kinda seem like downgrade with what is important to public: www.bcferries.com/service-notice-changes
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Post by Ollie on Feb 21, 2024 14:04:25 GMT -8
I noticed the BC Ferries service notices no longer specify the ferry name. It makes it much more difficult to tell which sailing is actually delayed. Why would they do this? I know there updating service notices which kinda seem like downgrade with what is important to public: www.bcferries.com/service-notice-changesThese are really bad changes, I want as much information as possible in my inbox but now their service notices aren’t very useful at all…
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Post by Neil on Feb 21, 2024 15:10:52 GMT -8
These are really bad changes, I want as much information as possible in my inbox but now their service notices aren’t very useful at all… I don't think anyone other than us ferry nerds is going to care. The travelling public doesn't pay attention to what ship is doing the 1pm departure from Tsawwassen, and on the one vessel routes, it really serves no purpose to put the vessel's name in. You're still getting the essentials on cancellations and revisions.
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Post by Ollie on Feb 21, 2024 15:50:13 GMT -8
These are really bad changes, I want as much information as possible in my inbox but now their service notices aren’t very useful at all… I don't think anyone other than us ferry nerds is going to care. The travelling public doesn't pay attention to what ship is doing the 1pm departure from Tsawwassen, and on the one vessel routes, it really serves no purpose to put the vessel's name in. You're still getting the essentials on cancellations and revisions. For people doing round trips (not all of them are ferry nerds, believe it or not!), most people won’t even know their return sailing time and will just know their departure time and what ferry they are on. If the return sailing is cancelled, they might get stuck on the opposite side since they cannot read the service notice!
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Post by Neil on Feb 21, 2024 17:45:58 GMT -8
I don't think anyone other than us ferry nerds is going to care. The travelling public doesn't pay attention to what ship is doing the 1pm departure from Tsawwassen, and on the one vessel routes, it really serves no purpose to put the vessel's name in. You're still getting the essentials on cancellations and revisions. For people doing round trips (not all of them are ferry nerds, believe it or not!), most people won’t even know their return sailing time and will just know their departure time and what ferry they are on. If the return sailing is cancelled, they might get stuck on the opposite side since they cannot read the service notice! I don't quite follow. If someone "cannot read the service notice", why does it matter if the ship name is in there or not? When a sailing is cancelled, say, due to mechanical issues, it's pretty much always stated if any subsequent sailings are in danger of cancellation, in either direction. I don't see that the minor shift in phrasing changes that. Maybe the service notice person who knows the vessel names is just on holidays right now.
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Post by Ollie on Feb 21, 2024 18:01:50 GMT -8
For people doing round trips (not all of them are ferry nerds, believe it or not!), most people won’t even know their return sailing time and will just know their departure time and what ferry they are on. If the return sailing is cancelled, they might get stuck on the opposite side since they cannot read the service notice! I don't quite follow. If someone "cannot read the service notice", why does it matter if the ship name is in there or not? When a sailing is cancelled, say, due to mechanical issues, it's pretty much always stated if any subsequent sailings are in danger of cancellation, in either direction. I don't see that the minor shift in phrasing changes that. Maybe the service notice person who knows the vessel names is just on holidays right now. By “cannot read the service notice”, I meant they might read the service notice but don’t associate it with their sailing. It’s not that bad right now but if they start removing ferry names from the booking page I will really start complaining!
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Post by Ollie on Feb 21, 2024 20:38:13 GMT -8
BC Ferries service notice for a rudder issue on the Queen of New Westminster:
Looks like they're back to using ferry names on the service notices!
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