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Post by Scott on Mar 7, 2006 22:16:57 GMT -8
I just read an old newspaper article putting the size of Captain George Vancouver's ship Discovery (1792) into perspective. Vancouver and his crew were on the ship 14 months before arriving in what is now Vancouver harbour. The length of the Discovery? 30 meters. That's four meters shorter than the Nimpkish. The Queen of Capilano is 3 times longer than the Discovery was. Must have been a long trip:)
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Post by Doug on Mar 7, 2006 22:22:10 GMT -8
Wow that's very interesting. Good find on that one.
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 7, 2006 22:26:18 GMT -8
He must of had a really strong stomach back then!! hahaha, seeming they obviously didn't have Gravol back then.
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 7, 2006 22:58:43 GMT -8
I just read an old newspaper article putting the size of Captain George Vancouver's ship Discovery (1792) into perspective. Vancouver and his crew were on the ship 14 months before arriving in what is now Vancouver harbour. The length of the Discovery? 30 meters. That's four meters shorter than the Nimpkish. The Queen of Capilano is 3 times longer than the Discovery was. Must have been a long trip:) again, jesum crow. They must have had to be even more efficient with their space back then than even their ro-ro counterparts have to now-adays.
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Post by Curtis on Mar 8, 2006 21:29:22 GMT -8
Wow thats odd
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Post by Neil on Mar 8, 2006 21:46:20 GMT -8
If you've ever taken a tour of the St. Roch at the Maritime Museum in Vancouver you get a good sense of the incredibly claustrophobic conditions mariners of old had to deal with. Months and months living onboard in cabins and common areas no bigger than a good sized walk in closet. Not to mention the fact that people didn't take baths very often. And how about that Russian sub that used to be docked in New West, and later Victoria? Just entering that thing freaked me out, and I'm not overly spooked by tight spaces. I guess the 'romance' of discovery and expedition has been created in the re-telling of those adventures. Actually doing it probably wasn't that much of a laugh.
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Post by Doug on Mar 8, 2006 21:52:50 GMT -8
Wow I remember that Russian sub. I went on that while it was in New West.... Can't say I'd like to submerge though....
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Mar 9, 2006 14:20:19 GMT -8
That was back in the times, when iron men sailed on wooden ships not vice versa as nowadays Good find really, hard to imagine nowadays..
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Post by Neil on Mar 10, 2006 11:34:19 GMT -8
Wooden men on iron ships... hmmm... there might be a poem in there somewhere, chivapcici.I've always been really fascinated by arctic exploration in particular, and all the different types of individuals who were attracted to it, for a myriad of reasons. Some who committed the folly of trying to bend the environment to their needs, others who were more successful by living within the terms of where they were. But yes, all in all, a different breed from the deckhand who directs your car onto the Skeena Queen. Not that there's anything WRONG with the deckhand who directs your car onto the Skeena Queen... By the way, thanks for all your info and pics on the Kalakala a while back. I've never been much of a fan of anything art deco, but the Kalakala is such a distinctive craft that she surely deserves to be saved. I'm surprised that efforts have come as far as they have, after seeing a picture of her years ago, apparently mired in muck somewhere in Alaska.
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Mar 11, 2006 13:05:14 GMT -8
Arctic Exploration.. the exploration of the North West passage etc. - it´s still fascinate to read about these. About my comment, I think nowadays the challenge of a ship´s crew is for sure different than many hundreds back, but my highest respect always goes to the crews at the check-in desk when departures are cancelled and the crowd get´s impatient and in the worst case rude. To keep cool despite the masses get angry and loose their temper, that is what takes alot of courage nowadays. OK, not talking BCF here though.. haven´t seen that sort of situation there yet
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Post by Neil on Mar 11, 2006 17:27:45 GMT -8
Indeed. I think some people believes that the person in the toll booth sets the fares, and that the guy directing traffic in the lot is personally responsible for the ferry being too small. Unfortunately, the front line employeees take the guff for whatever failings the company has- I guess its pretty much the same everywhere. The worst freak out I ever saw involving a ferry people, though, was one time recently on the Queen of New Westminster when one car deck person went ballistic on a junior colleague about where he was directing vehicles. Wow. I really felt sorry for the poor bugger. Apparently his senior colleague had some very serious issues with what lanes certain vehicles were to be put in, and didn't mind letting the travelling public know all about it. Embarrassing to watch.
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