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Post by Dane on Mar 12, 2006 18:29:04 GMT -8
I've been confused for a long time how Departure Bay-Horseshoe Bay operated on a 2-hour scheduled turn time before the C-Class arrived. Some one posted on the boatd that an unlifted C Class could do the run in the allotted time, a theory I decided to accept.
Then today I picked up some old tech specs from the V class and it listed Horseshoe Bay - Departure Bay as a 110 minute crossing. Did they just hope to load/unload the ships quickly and be able to get back out on time, or close too it? Also, aren't the crossing times for single ended ships based on the longer time (when it has to turn)?
Dane
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Post by Dane on Mar 12, 2006 18:34:21 GMT -8
Also while it's on my mind, when I look at told vessel assignments (late 60s, 70s) I noitce there always two vessels to Langdale. Was service every two hours like it is now, but with two vessels? Did they do it in an hour and a half?
Thanks
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Mar 12, 2006 21:15:49 GMT -8
The V class were slow and are still slow today. That is why they are not putting the Esquimalt on the run is because of how slow she is. She can still do it in the 110 minute frame today just not full speed.
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Post by Neil on Mar 12, 2006 22:34:50 GMT -8
When BC Ferries took over the route from Black Ball, and after they built all the new ferries, they did operate on a two hour turnaround for a number of years- but of course, as built, the new ferries only took 100 cars. After they added the car deck ramps, and then stretched the boats to take 190 cars, the schedule became something of a fiction, and they eventually bowed to reality and went to a 2 hrs. 15 mins. turnaround., which they were on until the C class came in in the late '70s. Maybe someone can clear up for me, the question of how the Queen of Tsawwassen can do a 60 minute turn around in Jervis Inlet on busy days in the summer- given that it takes so long to thread all the traffic into its very restricted car deck. Last time I was up there, it was way behind schedule.
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Post by Curtis on Mar 12, 2006 23:59:41 GMT -8
They have to go halfway out into Howe Sound at Horseshoe Bay that's your answer at Earls Cove it's more open spaced so it's possible to do the route in 50 minutes
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 13, 2006 0:04:05 GMT -8
They have to go halfway out into Howe Sound at Horseshoe Bay that's your answer at Earls Cove it's more open spaced so it's possible to do the route in 50 minutes Wasn't turning one of the issues that eliminated the Queen of Capilano from being able to do EC-SB? If that wasn't, then why was the Cappie taken off that route? |
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Post by Curtis on Mar 13, 2006 0:15:35 GMT -8
Well apparently during it's first few weeks it grounded on the rocky part of Earls Cove. you know where the picnic tables are. And it had many more mechanical problems so she was moved to a route closer to the drydock known as Horseshoe Bay-Bowen Island I guess the RAD Units were a bit newer to BCF than the Z-Drives if they're not the same the Cap was like the Powell River Queen if she could do it the Cap could probably do the route she just had problems like the Cumberland last summer when she got her RADs replaced with the Capilano's
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Post by Dane on Mar 13, 2006 2:36:03 GMT -8
Even the Chilliwack in the off season runs chronically late whenever there is any traffic above (aprox here) 50% loads.
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Post by Neil on Mar 13, 2006 12:12:01 GMT -8
With regard to what PR Teen said, it wasn't the 50 minute crossing that I was referring to, so much as the 10 minutes given to load and unload. If everybody drove one of those toy 'smart cars' the Queen of Tsawwassen would be fine, but some yahoos like me drive big pigs, and it takes the deck crew a while to shoehorn vehicles onto that boat when its busy. I've always thought that route is the second nicest one on the south coast, after Active Pass.
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Post by Mike C on Mar 13, 2006 18:10:02 GMT -8
"I've always thought that route is the second nicest one on the south coast, after Active Pass."
Really, even after Inside Passage/Discovery Coast?
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Post by Retrovision on Mar 13, 2006 18:16:55 GMT -8
"I've always thought that route is the second nicest one on the south coast, after Active Pass." Really, even after Inside Passage/Discovery Coast? "on the south coast"   |
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Post by Curtis on Mar 13, 2006 21:33:57 GMT -8
I'd think lots of scenery on this coast is beautiful Saanich Inlet Jervis Inlet and Active Pass are probably the best on the South Coast
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Post by Mike C on Mar 13, 2006 22:02:57 GMT -8
haha, sorry, misread your post Hornby Guy. lol, I need to read posts more closely I think.  In terms of the South Coast, I personnally quite like route 30. This may come as a surprise to most of you, but I like passing the north side of Gabriola Island. |
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Post by Balfour on Mar 13, 2006 22:08:16 GMT -8
haha, sorry, misread your post Hornby Guy. lol, I need to read posts more closely I think. In terms of the South Coast, I personnally quite like route 30. This may come as a surprise to most of you, but I like passing the north side of Gabriola Island. That last part of route 30 is nice. It's a good change after almost 2 hours in open water. |
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Post by jcachristian on Apr 7, 2006 11:41:18 GMT -8
According to the RBI the Queen of Surrey is schedualed for service on the LANGDALE to Horeshoe Bay route and the Queen of Coquitlam will Return to Departue Bay . Check out the date July 7, 2006.
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Post by Dane on Apr 7, 2006 12:05:40 GMT -8
According to the RBI the Queen of Surrey is schedualed for service on the LANGDALE to Horeshoe Bay route and the Queen of Coquitlam will Return to Departue Bay . Check out the date July 7, 2006. Interesting, thanks for the update. I wonder then will the - reflective windows be retained, - tourist information area be retained, - and will the cafeteria be the same as the Oak Bay? The Cow and Coqu aren't the same, the Oak Bay and Surrey had the potential to be, for all effective purposes, identical but this could meen they're not?? Strictly speculation. |
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 7, 2006 14:40:36 GMT -8
Now why would the Surrey go back to Route 3......
To me, it just makes alot more sense to have the two C's with the most Passenger Capcity on Route 2, Oak Bay and Surrey. The Coq is fine on Route 3, and is pretty empty most of the time anyway. The Cowichan was a nightmare last time I was on it two months ago with the lack of seating, but on Oak Bay, it just seemed more relaxed, and alot easier to grab a seat anywhere......
Anyways, when I was on my way to Vancouver today, I saw the Esquimalt, bow-to at Langdales berth 2. Then on the way back, I saw it making the turn around Bowen Island, on its way to Horseshoe Bay, just after 2.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Apr 7, 2006 14:42:58 GMT -8
She is making a 4 PM deparute out of Horseshoe Bay today to go to Departure Bay.
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Post by Dane on Apr 7, 2006 15:41:30 GMT -8
If the ship's going to have 'custom' Langdale things as I mentioned a few posts ago, it makes sense that they do that now while the ships' in refit etc.
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Post by DENelson83 on Apr 7, 2006 21:49:10 GMT -8
Some one posted on the boatd that an unlifted C Class could do the run in the allotted time, Unlifted C? The C's were never lifted. Don't you mean an unlifted V? |
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