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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 22, 2007 22:19:34 GMT -8
This brings up an interesting positioning issue. We're ending up with a boat out of position tonight at Horseshoe Bay -- the Cow. It will deadhead back to Departure Bay around 1:20am... Lost of OT for her crew tonight..!
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Post by hwy19man on May 22, 2007 22:41:00 GMT -8
The website is now showing that TSA to DP is now full for overheights for the 2350h departure. Maybe those left behind at TSA should drive to HSB to board the Cowichan at approximately 0115h.
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Post by Hardy on May 23, 2007 5:33:24 GMT -8
The website is now showing that TSA to DP is now full for overheights for the 2350h departure. Maybe those left behind at TSA should drive to HSB to board the Cowichan at approximately 0115h. I'd looked at that too, and watched the webcams. I had considered posting this but thought I would be roasted. From what I could see on the webcams, 2350 might have left one truck in the terminal (focus is not sooooo good). There was 1 that loaded (did not load) very slowly -- would they just have sent him OUT the exit to queue up at the front of the line for the 0515? Dunno how this works. Also, there was a fair collection of trucks parked "Traffic outside Terminal" by about 0000. Might not have been enough to warrant loading up the Cow at HSB for her return trip, or even if any of the drivers there would have made the journey to go and catch the boat out of HSB. Curious: what's the sailing time from HSB to Tsa?? My thinking being -- if someone with a brain notices all these queued trucks outside Tsa, and they have an out of position boat at HSB, start knocking on doors asking drivers if they want to go to go tonight, sail the Cow down to Tsa, load up, run back to either Dep or Duke and kick off the truckers that paid for the fuel to run the boat back .... Could this happen? Dunno enough about the ops side of how BCFS works. Just tossing it out there as a way to avoid running back empty.
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Post by hergfest on May 23, 2007 9:26:13 GMT -8
The Cow wouldn't sail to Tsa. The crew was already on overtime for the entire roundtrip to Horseshoe Bay, that would just add more OT.
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Post by Hardy on May 23, 2007 17:30:41 GMT -8
The Cow wouldn't sail to Tsa. The crew was already on overtime for the entire roundtrip to Horseshoe Bay, that would just add more OT. I understand that point. They emptied out the traffic from Dep, and headed back EMPTY. No revenue was generated for the man-hours paid and liters of diesel consumed. THAT is precisely why I posed the question as to whether it would have been feasible to sail her down to Tsa, load up whatever truckers were parked there and ready to go, and at least generate SOME revenue to offset the operational costs. She had to go back to the Island anyways....
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Post by Hardy on May 23, 2007 20:08:50 GMT -8
Service Notices - Swartz Bay-Tsawwassen Sailing Delay - Operational Updated at 7:55 pm Please be advised the Spirit of Vancouver Island is currently 1 hour 15 minutes behind schedule. The scheduled 7 pm sailing from Swartz Bay is expected to leave at 8:15 pm and the 9 pm sailing from Tsawwassen is expected to leave at 10:15 pm tonight. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result of the delays this evening. link at: www.bcferries.com/print/schedules/notices/notice05230711.html
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 13:01:38 GMT -8
Service Notices - Swartz Bay-Southern Gulf Islands ANNUAL SAFETY DRILLS Swartz Bay - Fulford Harbour On Monday June 4th, 2007 1:50 pm the crew of the Skeena Queen will be conducting annual safety drills required by Transport Canada. Customers are advised that there will be an approximate 25 minute delay between Fulford Harbour and Swartz Bay following the completion of the annual safety drills. BC Ferries will minimize this impact as much as possible. BC Ferries thanks our customers in advance for their patience as we continue to make safety our first priority. link at: www.bcferries.com/print/schedules/notices/notice05240702.html
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 13:02:58 GMT -8
Service Notices - Departure Bay-Horseshoe Bay Sailing Delay Posted May 24, 2007 Updated at 1:15 pm The 12:30 pm sailings between Horseshoe Bay and Departure Bay are approximately 30-40 minutes behind schedule due to a medical emergency on the Queen of Cowichan and operational issues with the Queen of Oak Bay. As a result, the 3 pm departures from both terminals will be approximately 15 minutes behind schedule this afternoon. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result of these delays. link at: www.bcferries.com/schedules/notices/notice05240703.html
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 13:05:02 GMT -8
The 12:30 pm sailings between Horseshoe Bay and Departure Bay are approximately 30-40 minutes behind schedule due to a medical emergency on the Queen of Cowichan and operational issues with the Queen of Oak Bay. Well, it took a few days for the Oaky to really have any issues returning from her refit, but it looks like the streak is now alive and well again. Glad to see that at least there is consistency in inconsistency at BCFS.
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Post by hwy19man on May 24, 2007 13:16:26 GMT -8
I notice that on service notices that when a V-class vessel goes on routes 2 or 30, a reminder is given that there is less overheight clearance on the V-class ships and these ships go slower. That part I understand.
It is the part where the notice mentions that V-class vessels have a different deck configuration than the C-class boats. What is the difference there? Aside from the Alberni which can carry the most overheight vehicles, can the V-class carry more trucks on its main deck than the Surrey and Cowichan etc?
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 13:46:08 GMT -8
I notice that on service notices that when a V-class vessel goes on routes 2 or 30, a reminder is given that there is less overheight clearance on the V-class ships and these ships go slower. That part I understand. As I have stated before, the entire "less overheight clearance" thing is really quire a moot point for any LEGAL loads. Commercial vehicles are restricted by provincial regulations to 13'6" (4.12m) in height. While BCFerries can carry loads which are higher than provincial regulations, those drivers hauling these loads have to be very careful of structures and infrastructure such as overpasses, bridges, abutments, hydro lines, signs, trees, etc. Overheight loads that are WAY taller are usually handled by Seaspan Intermodal anyways at a much lower tarriff than BCFerries. It is the part where the notice mentions that V-class vessels have a different deck configuration than the C-class boats. What is the difference there? Aside from the Alberni which can carry the most overheight vehicles, can the V-class carry more trucks on its main deck than the Surrey and Cowichan etc? This has to do with the internal layouts of the vehicle lanes. The C-class have "straighter" lanes on the outboard of the vessel. On the V's, with the way that the internal columns are positioned and the 'curves' of the walls, it is harder to load as many large commercial vehicles as tightly against the "form" of the ship. I am sure that there are some more technical explanations as well, but as a "non-ferry-techie" just a truck driver, these are my observations. Does this help clear things up a little?
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 15:24:35 GMT -8
Service Notices - Departure Bay-Horseshoe Bay Sailing Delay Posted May 24, 2007 Updated at 4 pm Sailings between Departure Bay and Horseshoe Bay are approximately 30 minutes behind schedule at the current time. The Queen of Cowichan and Queen of Oak Bay are not expected to be back on schedule before the end of the evening. Please visit the current conditions page on our website for up-to-date information this evening. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result of these delays tonight. link at: www.bcferries.com/schedules/notices/notice05240703.html
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 15:37:40 GMT -8
Oh oh!! Guess who broke down!!! Seems like more than an elevator.... Service Notices - Comox-Powell River Sailing Cancellation Posted May 24, 2007 Updated at 4:15 pm Please be advised the 3:15 pm sailing from Comox and the 5:15 pm departure from Powell River have been cancelled due to operational issues. A further update will be provided as soon as possible. We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced tonight as a result. link at: www.bcferries.com/schedules/notices/notice05240705.html
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 19:08:56 GMT -8
Service Notices - Port McNeill-Alert Bay-Sointula Sailing Delay - Operational Posted May 24, 2007
Updated at 7:25 pm
Please be advised the Quadra Queen II is currently 30 minutes behind schedule due to operational issues. The vessel is not expected to be back on schedule before the end of the evening.
We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result tonight.
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Post by Hardy on May 24, 2007 19:09:26 GMT -8
Service Notices - Comox-Powell River Revised Schedule Posted May 24, 2007
Updated at 5:15 pm
Please be advised the schedule between Comox and Powell River has been revised tonight due to earlier operational issues.
The revised schedule for the Queen of Burnaby is as follows, for tonight only:
Depart Comox
4:40 pm
Arrive Powell River
5:55 pm
Depart Powell River
6:15 pm
Arrive Comox
7:25 pm
Depart Comox
7:45 pm
Arrive Powell River
9:05 pm
Depart Powell River
9:15 pm
Arrive Comox
10:25 pm
We would like to apologize for any inconvenience experienced tonight as a result of these changes.
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Post by Retrovision on May 26, 2007 13:02:05 GMT -8
SOBC: Temporary Vessel Replacement May 28th - 30th Posted May 22, 2007 The Spirit of British Columbia will be temporarily removed from service on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay route from Monday, May 28th to Wednesday, May 30th for a maintenance period. Beginning with the 7:00 a.m. sailing on May 28th from Tsawwassen, the Queen of Vancouver will be the temporary replacement for the Spirit vessel. The Spirit of British Columbia will provide 1 roundtrip on May 28th at 8:00 a.m. departing from Tsawwassen before being removed from operation. Since the Queen of Vancouver is a smaller vessel than the Spirit of British Columbia, the Queen of Saanich will also provide two additional roundtrips departing from Swartz Bay at 12:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m. on Monday May 28th, Tuesday May 29th and Wednesday May 30th. The Spirit of British Columbia will return to service for the 7:00 a.m. sailing on Thursday, May 31st departing from Tsawwassen. For reservations or additional sailing information visit our website Interesting she is doing one roundtrip a 8am then going out of service. lol! Service Notices - Swartz Bay-Tsawwassen
SOBC: Temporary Vessel Replacement May 29th - 30th Posted May 22, 2007The Spirit of British Columbia will be temporarily removed from service on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay route from Tuesday, May 29th to Wednesday, May 30th for a maintenance period. Beginning with the 7:00 a.m. sailing on May 29th from Tsawwassen, the Queen of Vancouver will be the temporary replacement for the Spirit vessel. Since the Queen of Vancouver is a smaller vessel than the Spirit of British Columbia, the Queen of Saanich will provide two additional roundtrips departing from Swartz Bay at 12:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday May 29th and Wednesday May 30th. The Spirit of British Columbia will return to service for the 7:00 a.m. sailing on Thursday, May 31st departing from Tsawwassen. - "Posted May 22, 2007" Hmm, I didn't realize today is the 22nd, as this was just posted Thanks a lot, BCFS, for messing up my plans for Monday
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Post by Political Incorrectness on May 26, 2007 13:34:47 GMT -8
June 1 Fuel Surcharge Adjustment Posted May 23, 2007
The BC Ferry Commissioner has directed BC Ferries to make downward adjustments to the fuel surcharge on two routes effective June 1.
The fuel surcharge account for the Horseshoe Bay – Langdale route is trending towards a surplus and therefore will be reduced by 45 cents per passenger and $1.65 per passenger vehicle. The surcharge will also be reduced for oversize and commercial vehicles as well as buses.
BC Ferries is also making a downward adjustment to the fuel surcharge on the Mill Bay – Brentwood Bay route.
This action is consistent with the BC Ferry Commissioner’s direction in his 06-03 Order regarding fuel surcharges.
The fuel surcharge on all other routes remains unchanged.
BC Ferries closely monitors the changing cost of fuel.
Brentwood Bay-Mill Bay Route
The BC Ferry Commissioner has directed BC Ferries to make downward adjustments to the fuel surcharge on two routes effective June 1.
The fuel surcharge account for the Mill Bay – Brentwood Bay route is currently in a surplus position. Therefore the current fuel surcharge will be removed and in addition, a rebate of 25 cents per passengers and 70 cents per passenger vehicle will be implemented. A rebate will also be offered for oversize and commercial vehicles as well as buses.
BC Ferries is also making a downward adjustment to the fuel surcharge on the Horseshoe Bay – Langdale route.
This action is consistent with the BC Ferry Commissioner’s direction in his 06-03 Order regarding fuel surcharges.
The fuel surcharge on all other routes remains unchanged.
BC Ferries closely monitors the changing cost of fuel.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on May 27, 2007 21:01:56 GMT -8
Sailing Delay - Operational Posted May 27, 2007
Updated at 9:15 pm
Please be advised that the last sailing of the evening departing Earls Cove bound for Saltery Bay will be 35 minutes late.
The revised departure time is 10:45 pm.
We apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result of this delay.
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Post by Retrovision on May 30, 2007 18:53:44 GMT -8
SOBC: Temporary Vessel Replacement May 28th - 30th Posted May 22, 2007 Service Notices - Swartz Bay-Tsawwassen
SOBC: Temporary Vessel Replacement May 29th - 30th Posted May 22, 2007The Spirit of British Columbia will be temporarily removed from service on the Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay route from Tuesday, May 29th to Wednesday, May 30th for a maintenance period. Beginning with the 7:00 a.m. sailing on May 29th from Tsawwassen, the Queen of Vancouver will be the temporary replacement for the Spirit vessel. Since the Queen of Vancouver is a smaller vessel than the Spirit of British Columbia, the Queen of Saanich will provide two additional roundtrips departing from Swartz Bay at 12:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday May 29th and Wednesday May 30th. The Spirit of British Columbia will return to service for the 7:00 a.m. sailing on Thursday, May 31st departing from Tsawwassen. - "Posted May 22, 2007" Hmm, I didn't realize today is the 22nd, as this was just posted Thanks a lot, BCFS, for messing up my plans for Monday I'm assuming that there will be another service notice, though I haven't seen one posted yet, as the SoBC was still in dry dock at Vancouver Shipyards as of 5pm this evening. Late Edit: RBI has the SoBC sailing tomorrow at 7am; can anyone say if it's even possible to get a Spirit back in service that quickly?
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Post by kylefossett on May 30, 2007 20:47:27 GMT -8
I'm assuming that there will be another service notice, though I haven't seen one posted yet, as the SoBC was still in dry dock at Vancouver Shipyards as of 5pm this evening. Late Edit: RBI has the SoBC sailing tomorrow at 7am; can anyone say if it's even possible to get a Spirit back in service that quickly? because it was a short drydocking she was probably not cleared of her stores. all that they will have to do is refloat her in the drydock and sail her down to tsawwassen
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Post by Dane on May 31, 2007 12:00:44 GMT -8
She made it out, only 36 minutes late.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 2, 2007 17:50:03 GMT -8
Here's something you don't see everyday!!
Port Hardy - Mid Coast - Prince Rupert Posted June 02, 2007 Early Arrival into Prince Rupert
Updated as of June 2nd at 2:00 pm
Please be advised that the Queen of Prince Rupert sailing between Port Hardy - Bella Bella - Ocean Falls - Prince Rupert is expected to arrive 1 hour ahead of schedule into Prince Rupert on Sunday June 3rd at approximately 5:00 pm. The vessel will depart Prince Rupert for Skidegate as scheduled at 9:00 pm.
For updated information, please feel free to call 1-888-BC FERRY (1-888-223-3779).
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 2, 2007 17:51:08 GMT -8
Sailing Delay - Medical Emergency Posted June 02, 2007
Updated 12:45 pm
Please be advised that the Queen of Surrey sailing between Horseshoe Bay (West Vancouver) and Langdale (Sunshine Coast) will be running approximately 1 hour behind schedule due to a medical emergency.
For updated information, please feel free to call 1-888-BC FERRY (1-888-223-3779).
We apologize for any inconvenience experienced as a result of this delay.
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Post by Scott on Jun 2, 2007 22:26:25 GMT -8
Here's something you don't see everyday!! Port Hardy - Mid Coast - Prince Rupert Posted June 02, 2007 Early Arrival into Prince RupertUpdated as of June 2nd at 2:00 pm Please be advised that the Queen of Prince Rupert sailing between Port Hardy - Bella Bella - Ocean Falls - Prince Rupert is expected to arrive 1 hour ahead of schedule into Prince Rupert on Sunday June 3rd at approximately 5:00 pm. The vessel will depart Prince Rupert for Skidegate as scheduled at 9:00 pm. For updated information, please feel free to call 1-888-BC FERRY (1-888-223-3779). Why should anyone care about this? p.s. I'm referring to the service notice, not Chris' post.
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Post by kylefossett on Jun 3, 2007 7:46:24 GMT -8
if there are people onboard that have rides waiting for them at the rupert end might care to have there rides there to pick them up so they don't havet o wait for an hour
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