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Post by Curtis on Jan 5, 2005 16:05:23 GMT -8
I was just reading Powell River's local paper(Jan 5/05) when I came up to someting about Powell River's Ferries it said which year the Cap takes over Saltery Bay-Earls Cove for the rest of her service life for those who don't know the year is 2007 the Capilano will have ramps and be exactly the same as the Cumberland in 2007. Also in some posts Flugel Horn said that when the Cap was on the route in 1991 she couldn't make it through 2 islands into Earls Cove so she was moved to Bowen Island the real reason is she had engine trouble so they moved her closer to Vancouver so she could be fixed for example my parents were on the Capilano in 1991 my dad didn't notice anthing wrong and when they came back the Cap wasen't even there it had broke down and the Chilliwack had took over so I think what Flugel Horn said is kinda ridiculous  |
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Post by Flugel Horn on Jan 5, 2005 16:18:28 GMT -8
Puncuation is your friend... R U an investor or a private party
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Post by Curtis on Jan 5, 2005 16:40:38 GMT -8
why do I have the strange feeling this isn't Flugel Horn. Flugal Horn posts as a member right
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 5, 2005 17:55:48 GMT -8
The Capilano would still have less capacity than the Queen of Tsawwassen which can carry 138 vehicles and the Cumberland can carry 125. Also with the platform decks it wouldent be as fast loading and unloading and she would need more than a snack bar on the ship. My own opinion is I dont see the Earls Cove route to be a good route for the Capilano. THat's just my opinion though.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 5, 2005 18:12:39 GMT -8
Hey, it's the real me this time.
I like how the imposter doesn't know how to spell "punctuation".
The whole issue of the Cap not being able to go thru the small islands is just from my foggy memory. My memory might be bad on that one. Maybe it was all just a dream.
I do know this: I think the Cap is a much more beautiful ship than the 'Wack. Maybe they should bring back the PR-Queen to her rightful route at Jervis Inlet ?
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Post by Dane on Jan 5, 2005 18:25:27 GMT -8
The Cap should, hypothetically, be a very mauverable vessel? Thats just from comments that were in casual conversations, no true engineer merrit behind them  And as an aside, BCF has said that the Burnaby, and Tsawwassen are both "in gross excess" to the traffic demand, you can read that in their 2002/2003 Report. Dane |
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Post by Balfour on Jan 5, 2005 18:34:17 GMT -8
Didn't someone IP ban the imposter?
As for the Capilano on the Earls cove Saltery Bay Route, I think its passenger area is too small for that route. I'd much rather see a deck design much like the Tsawassen, but if the Capilano goes to Earls Cove, I would like to see it undergo a renovation to expand customer service, and get rid of the Dogwood carpeting.
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Post by Curtis on Jan 5, 2005 20:44:08 GMT -8
A idea would be to strech the Cap
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Post by Dane on Jan 5, 2005 21:40:29 GMT -8
It doesnt need a stretch, and I'm not sure if there is really enough traffic to justify an increased passenger area.... How many actual passengers does this route reguarly get. Remember, as I illuded to earlier BCF feels quite strongly that there is way too much capacity up there right now. I have never traveled the route so have no idea.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jan 6, 2005 3:43:58 GMT -8
Capilano is perfectly suited to her job today. Limited passenger facilities (for a 20-minute run, they are fine; there is lots of room for transit riders nursing bring-along coffees).
She's speedy on flat water, and has enough power to cut through winter tidal currents.
She's the right boat in the right place. Don't move her.
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Post by Dane on Jan 7, 2005 19:27:10 GMT -8
Awesome facilities, doesn't carry enough people, or vehicles. Frankly there should be a bridge there, but that would come through hell or high water LOL Oh well, I love ferries, so they can stay. |
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Post by Curtis on Jan 7, 2005 19:40:06 GMT -8
It would be ideal to build a bridge the only problem would be the $$$ they spend building it. Another way would be this build a Alberni version of the Cap for Saltery Bay-Earls Cove.
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Post by Ian on Jan 7, 2005 21:25:36 GMT -8
No no no no no, no building alberni versions of anything, the alberni was a mistake that went alright but why do you think thier streching her AGAIN for the third time. The ideal vessel would be something along the lines of a double ended burnaby class although a newer version.
Thats just my opinion
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 7, 2005 21:34:46 GMT -8
What about something simular to WSF's Sealth or maybe Walla Walla or even Issaqua class??
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Post by clay on Jan 10, 2005 1:09:15 GMT -8
Earl's Cove-Saltery Bay? Stretch, refit, and modify the Queen of Prince Rupert. She's the right size, she has gyro stabilizers to deal with the tidal exchanges, and she tracks nicely with her twin screws in concert with the stabilizers. Plus, she'd look pretty nice against the backdrop of the coast mountains.
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Post by Dave on Jan 10, 2005 17:30:40 GMT -8
To answer your question Karl, the WSFs blow that's why aight.
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Post by Queen of The North on Jan 11, 2005 23:07:44 GMT -8
A few months ago I went for a ride on the Capilano to Snug Cove and I stayed over on Bowen For a couple hours. As I was chatting with a lady near the ferry terminal she was telling me that the Queen of Capilano is indeed too SMALL for the Snug Cove run. She was telling me that a lot of Comercial vehicles take up prime space on the vessle and a lot of Commuters are left behind waiting for the next sailing. This is basically what Gabriolians have to contend with too. Exept the problem is too many commuters. On any given weekday there is traffic lined up outside of the Nanaimo terminal for the afternoon sailing. Especially for the 3:50 from Nanaimo. The mv Quinsam is too small. Even on Gabriola often you see cars lined up passed the "1 sailing wait" sing. Stretching the mv Quinsam is a Idea I heard in the Gabriola Sounder a few weeks ago.(its about all they can do to this ship). So I do not see why they can't do the same for the Capilano.  |
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Post by Ian on Jan 12, 2005 18:16:13 GMT -8
DO NOT TOUCH THE CAPILANO, she is a perfect ship to be used on another route, get a new ship for the bowen island route. As for the Quinsam, do whatever.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 12, 2005 18:31:26 GMT -8
Debating a new route for the Capilano?? I'll solve the problem. Bring her down here to Swartz Bay and get rid of the Mayne Queen. Then she will be on the same route as her sister, the Cumbie!!
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 12, 2005 18:46:28 GMT -8
I like that idea, I thinks a route looks better when it has sister ships running on it instead of seeing one and knowing the other is well away from the other.
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Post by Ian on Jan 12, 2005 19:48:39 GMT -8
But does Swartz bay need that much capacity for the s. gulf islands? The mayne queen, where will she go. And the bowen queen, where will she go.
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 12, 2005 19:55:10 GMT -8
Be substitutes on routes when ferries go into refit like how Bowen Queen is always getting moved around. Like right now how she is doing the Bowen Island run and then pretty quick in February shes gonna take cumbies place on the SWB-SGIs route.
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