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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 17:19:04 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 10, 2012 21:55:50 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 10, 2012 22:25:35 GMT -8
I audibly said 'Wow...' when I saw this picture. I've never seen pictures of the Second Narrows with toll booths before. And it's interesting to see 'Wheat Pool' printed in large letters, whereas today that building is just bleak beige. I absolutely adore those retro angled streetlights too; they're so hard to find these days. The only place I can clearly remember them still being at to this day is Kelsey Bay ex-ferry terminal.
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Oct 23, 2012 12:01:52 GMT -8
Ashnola bridge, over the Similkameen River, just west of Keremeos, BC. - seen by me in morning on July 19, 2012. That's just down from where my grandparents live. Many good memories from my childhood floating down that river to that bridge. Chris Cassidy
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 2, 2012 18:55:09 GMT -8
A video compilation of 3 BC bridges that I enjoy: - Nass River bridge on Hwy-37 (from July 2010) - old suspension bridge over Fraser River at Lillooet (from July 2010) - Ashnola red bridge over Similkameen River (from July 2012)
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Nov 15, 2012 10:38:22 GMT -8
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Post by Nickfro on Nov 15, 2012 11:54:08 GMT -8
Thanks for posting this, WCK. It made me feel embarrassed that, as a North Shore resident, I never knew that the new (circa 1960) 2nd Narrows Bridge originally had a toll. It also made me search for additional information about how long the toll was there for, and found numerous articles containing comments from people confidently stating that there has never been a toll on this bridge. The debate went on for a bunch of other Greater Vancouver bridges and whether or not any of them ever had tolls. It's comments, posts and views like that which sometimes make it difficult determining what is actually a fact, but interesting reads nonetheless!
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 15, 2012 15:30:29 GMT -8
My mother spent her teenage years living in the Kennedy area south of the Fraser River. She remember when the Patullo bridge opened, named for a BC Premier of the 1930's, Duff Patullo, who was the MLA for Prince Rupert. My mother tells me that the tolls to use the bridge were very steep, relative to family incomes at that time. The bridge became known as the "PAY-Toll-a". In my experience tolls are taken off bridges, tunnels, highways, etc. shortly before provincial elections, the most recent example being the Coquihalla Highway & Gordon Campbell, September 2008... www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/09/26/bc-coquihalla-highway-tolls-dropped.htmlThere was probably a BC provincial election later in 1962 or early in 63, and WAC Bennett had socialist hordes breathing down his neck. Getting rid of tolls is a really good way to ensure that you are re-elected.
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Post by Mike C on Nov 15, 2012 16:23:43 GMT -8
My mother spent her teenage years living in the Kennedy area south of the Fraser River. She remember when the Patullo bridge opened, named for a BC Premier of the 1930's, Duff Patullo, who was the MLA for Prince Rupert. My mother tells me that the tolls to use the bridge were very steep, relative to family incomes at that time. The bridge became known as the "PAY-Toll-a". In my experience tolls are taken off bridges, tunnels, highways, etc. shortly before provincial elections, the most recent example being the Coquihalla Highway & Gordon Campbell, September 2008... www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/09/26/bc-coquihalla-highway-tolls-dropped.htmlThere was probably a BC provincial election later in 1962 or early in 63, and WAC Bennett had socialist hordes breathing down his neck. Getting rid of tolls is a really good way to ensure that you are re-elected. My grandparents on my dad's side, both Irish immigrants, moved here shortly before the start of WWII, both lived in New Westminster, very close to the north portal of what is Columbia/4th Street Station today. To this day, my grandmother refers to it as the Pay-toll-a, always telling me that the toll when the bridge was built, the tolls were about 25 cents per crossing. Of course, if the Port Mann's tolls were 25 cents, we would cross it without second thought, but as you mentioned, for those days that was quite steep and you would perhaps reconsider that trip into Surrey.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 15, 2012 16:51:15 GMT -8
My grandparents on my dad's side, both Irish immigrants, moved here shortly before the start of WWII, both lived in New Westminster, very close to the north portal of what is Columbia/4th Street Station today. To this day, my grandmother refers to it as the Pay-toll-a, always telling me that the toll when the bridge was built, the tolls were about 25 cents per crossing. Of course, if the Port Mann's tolls were 25 cents, we would cross it without second thought, but as you mentioned, for those days that was quite steep and you would perhaps reconsider that trip into Surrey. My mom said that there was a monthly commuter toll - $5 for unlimited use with in one month. At that time during the depression a working man's monthly income might have been $50.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 16:56:14 GMT -8
Finally the westbound lanes are going to open on the new port mann bridge. Does anyone know when my family should get the TReO, when we ordered one on September 26th?
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Nov 16, 2012 8:39:36 GMT -8
Finally the westbound lanes are going to open on the new port mann bridge. Does anyone know when my family should get the TReO, when we ordered one on September 26th? 1-855-888-TREO (1-855-888-8736)
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Post by Mike C on Nov 17, 2012 0:10:32 GMT -8
While I was on my way to my sister's hockey game in Coquitlam this evening, I decided that the best route would be to pay tribute to the original span of the Port Mann Bridge. This span, upon the rerouting of westbound traffic to the new span tonight, will be officially retired from active service on Saturday November 17.
I decided to film this endeavour, turning it into my first ever time lapse. Please excuse the rough ride (I was driving my parents' Hyundai, it rides pretty low to the ground) and the windshield wipers.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 17, 2012 19:40:12 GMT -8
Why did the need a new Port Mann??? What was wrong with the old one?? First I have heard of this, lol!
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Post by Mike C on Nov 17, 2012 19:51:50 GMT -8
Why did the need a new Port Mann??? What was wrong with the old one?? First I have heard of this, lol! I'm surprised you haven't heard of this, seeing as it is part of a Highway 1 widening project that has been ongoing for the past three years. The bridge replacement was part of the project, and will open on Dec 1st to be a 10-lane wide span.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 17, 2012 19:59:45 GMT -8
I never usually take highway 1 right from Vancouver. When I have been over there I dont think I have taken the Port Mann to often. I dont even know which bridge is which half the time except for the Lions Gate Bridge.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Nov 17, 2012 20:37:30 GMT -8
You dident have to pay before and now you do???
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Nov 17, 2012 21:30:17 GMT -8
Supplentary to the December 1st opening is a RapidBus service initally from Langley (Walnut Grove - Hwy 1 and 202nd) to Braid Station. The service will include a stop at 156th in Surrey to connect with buses there (not completly finished yet), and the final stop will be at Lougheed Station in Burnaby. The idea is to encourage commuters to use the Rapid Bus service to Skytrain to Vancouver. New buses will be used with comfy seats. The route is the 555 Port Mann Express. It's listed at Translink in its initial operating route. Hope to try it when it opens. The new Park and Ride will have bus routing to Haney and also to Langley City plus local service. 1 -The 555 won't connect to Lougheed Station (at least not yet), instead it will terminate at Braid Station. 2 - The buses being used aren't "new". These are units that ran from South Surrey and Delta starting in 2001. They've been repainted and had some seats repaired 3 - There will not be a bus connecting to Haney Place. The 595 originally ran to Haney Place but was cut back to Maple Meadows Station due to low ridership Chris Cassidy
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Post by Mike C on Nov 18, 2012 0:16:07 GMT -8
Bus looked new when I saw it on Friday at the Park and Ride annoucement. Seats looked good. Took pictures of it. Chris is correct - these buses have been operating in Greater Vancouver since they were purchased new in 2001. Several of them received refurbishments shortly before their transfer to the 555, however none of them are new.
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Nov 18, 2012 9:27:51 GMT -8
Bus looked new when I saw it on Friday at the Park and Ride annoucement. Seats looked good. Took pictures of it. Here's S9219 taken back in 2008 in her original paint scheme www.flickr.com/photos/chsscassidy/3239458303/The shiny paint can confuse the untrained eye
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 18:42:19 GMT -8
This is a view north from the Park and Ride to Highway 1 along 202nd which connects with 88th Ave The access to/from the freeway is from an inside on/off ramp configuration. This view is looking west towards 200th Street. PORT MANN BRIDGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTAre there making that exit a HOV exit and entrance to highway 1?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 19:30:24 GMT -8
Yeah this going to cut down on driving to Vancouver or somewhere else for me and my family. Wait a minute, this whole project is going to help people in Metro Vancouver and other BC places.
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Post by Cable Cassidy on Nov 21, 2012 21:06:37 GMT -8
Paul, did they mention when the Government Street ramps will be complete? Everything west of the Cape Horn still looks like a mess (construction wise)
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Post by Balfour on Nov 22, 2012 8:03:14 GMT -8
but it is far more complicated than the Surrey side since the Surrey side was easy (although some finishing work is being done). It's not so much that the Surrey side of the project was easy, it was the first area where the Engineers started the design. I was involved in the production of Engineering drawings for the Surrey/Langley area of the project for almost a year. The drawings in that area were Issued for Construction in late 2009, while the rest of the project drawings weren't issued until mid-2010. In Surrey and Langley there were a number of environmental and geotechnical issues to accomodate in the design which always provides a challenge for the engineer and how a contractor builds the road.
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Post by Nickfro on Nov 22, 2012 12:04:35 GMT -8
A Port Mann related story regarding the 25% HOV discount, except it's nearly impossible to access the HOV lane from the 152st onramp. . .oops! Article located HERE.
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