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Post by queenofcowichan on Nov 21, 2007 15:16:13 GMT -8
-#1 Before BC Ferries took over the Ministry of Highways ferries (salt water div) at the end of 1985 which ferry would have filled in for her while she was in refitt?  -#2 I know the Mayne Queen has filled in for the Powell River Queen on the Quadra Island run and for the Queen of Capilano on the Bowen Island run, but does anyone know if she has ever filled in for the Quinsam on the Gabriola run? |
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Post by Quinsam on Nov 26, 2007 16:35:13 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen has filled in for the Quinsam on numerous occasions. When she went into refit to be repainted at Esquimalt, and I think also when the Quinsam had a leak in her hull back in 2001. I could be a little inaccurate, but it's to the best of my knowledge.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 26, 2007 20:56:46 GMT -8
-#1 Before BC Ferries took over the Ministry of Highways ferries (salt water div) at the end of 1985 which ferry would have filled in for her while she was in refitt? Past main vessels seem to have been retained and used as backups on ministry routes after their time as the primary vessel on a route, for example the Eena was used as a secondary vessel to Gabriola for years after she was eclipsed by a newbuild. I can't remember the details as I've returned my soure to the library, that great diffinitive history of the ministry ferries by Frank A. Clapp, but I did post the details in another thread that I can't find at the moment. -#2 I know the Mayne Queen has filled in for the Powell River Queen on the Quadra Island run and for the Queen of Capilano on the Bowen Island run, but does anyone know if she has ever filled in for the Quinsam on the Gabriola run? Did you mean to say Bowen Queen? |
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 26, 2007 21:18:26 GMT -8
-#2 I know the Mayne Queen has filled in for the Powell River Queen on the Quadra Island run and for the Queen of Capilano on the Bowen Island run, but does anyone know if she has ever filled in for the Quinsam on the Gabriola run? Did you mean to say Bowen Queen? No, the Mayne Queen actually has been used to replace the Powell River Queen and Queen of Capilano. It has just been a few years since it has happened. But I do know that vessels such as the Nimpish, Kahloke, Quinitsa and Klitsa have served some time as either replacements or seasonal service on the Gabriola Route as well. |
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Post by Neil on Nov 26, 2007 21:56:18 GMT -8
Past main vessels seem to have been retained and used as backups on ministry routes after their time as the primary vessel on a route, for example the Ethel Hunter was used as a secondary vessel to Gabriola for years after she was eclipsed by a newbuild. I can't remember the details as I've returned my soure to the library, that great diffinitive history of the ministry ferries by Frank A. Clapp, but I did post the details in another thread that I can't find at the moment. was actually the Thetis Island vessel. Never went to Gabriola that I know of. I remember taking the Westwood to Gabriola in 1968. According to the Clapp book, the chronology of car ferries to Gabriola was: Atrevida, Eena, Westwood (Eena as back up), Klatawa, Kahloke, Quinitsa, and now of course, the Quinsam. Others of course have filled in from time to time. |
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 26, 2007 22:00:49 GMT -8
Ethel Hunter was actually the Thetis Island vessel. Never went to Gabriola that I know of. I remember taking the Westwood to Gabriola in 1968. Ah yes, of course, I'm getting her mixed up with the Eena. Thanks for the chronology. |
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Post by queenofcowichan on Nov 29, 2007 19:57:32 GMT -8
When the Quinsam had the hole in her hull the Nimpkish and the Kalhoke replaced her. I know because I did see them.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 30, 2007 0:08:11 GMT -8
When the Quinsam had the hole in her hull the Nimpkish and the Kalhoke replaced her. I know because I did see them. About what year was this? |
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Post by blackshadow on Nov 30, 2007 7:27:38 GMT -8
If I remember correctly this was about 7 or 8 years ago. I think it was the year before the Quinsam got her new engines. BCFS pulled the Kahloke out of Nanaimo shipyard before all the work was completed then went back to the shipyard after Quinsam was back. For about a day Nimpkish was the only refit vessel on the run. There were alot of unhappy campers that time.
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Post by NMcKay on Dec 4, 2007 17:03:32 GMT -8
i have photos of the Klatawa on the gabriola run in the late 70/80s
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Post by queenofcowichan on Dec 5, 2007 11:34:56 GMT -8
d*** It!, it just peaves me off when a ship is taken in for a so called "refitt" BC ferries can not find the time to spruce her up. Yes I am talking about the mv Quinsam which has returned from a brief time off. I was down at the Nanaimo terminal today and she looks as rusted and crappy as ever. You would think BC Ferries would have some pride in thier ships and keep them looking spiffy. I mean realy how much time would it take for one or two workers to use a pressure washer on her especially when she was in refitt. Grrrr! Thats my beef for today.
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Post by hergfest on Dec 5, 2007 13:35:59 GMT -8
I don't think she was there long enough for a paint job. She doesn't get painted often, she was the last to get the new BC Ferry colors.
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Post by Nick on Dec 5, 2007 14:34:50 GMT -8
In my opinion, as nice as it is to see a nicely painted ship, I would rather see the money spent below decks on the machinery, than in passenger areas and cosmetic details.
As long as the ship's paint is preventing the steel from rusting (and I mean the deep penetrating rust, not the stuff that forms on the surface after a year at sea), it is better to ensure that the engines won't break down, and the fire fighting/safety equipment is properly functioning. Also, from what I have heard, BCF is spending quite a bit of money on making the fleet more fuel efficient. I think that that is more important than how the ship looks.
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Post by queenofcowichan on Dec 5, 2007 19:23:02 GMT -8
I too agree money should be spent on the machinery, and she does not need to be re-painted every year, what I am saying is just give her or any ship a quick spray down with the preasure washer to knock off some of the rust.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 5, 2007 21:51:20 GMT -8
I think they're saving that sort of work (paint) for when she recieves the major upgrade next year (?). This would also explain why it was such a short maintenance period, just to hold her off until the major work happens.
I see what you're saying though. I too wish that the paint was kept nice and spiffy all the time. I had to laugh the last time I was waiting for the Queen of Esquimalt pull into Berth 3 at Departure Bay a few weeks ago. I happened to hear a bunch of people comment on how rusty she is, and it even gave some people a sense that the ship isn't as safe as it should be. Not that I think the paintjob depicts that the ship is unsafe to be on. It's just what the average joe seems to see in a rusty ship they're about to travel on.
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Post by queenofcowichan on Dec 6, 2007 11:34:48 GMT -8
There is more to a rust free ship than just the "Cosmectic" aspect. One has to remember that the ship is been looked at by not just her passengers but the community that it serves. I am sure people who live in the surrounding houses, such as on Protection Island, Cameron Island (High Rises beside the ferry dock) and near the Descanso Bay terminal, and at many other areas along the coast of BC do not want to see a rusted looking ship day by day.
Like Chris posted last night it gives one a sense that the ship is been negletlet.
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