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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 31, 2006 18:47:49 GMT -8
I have noticed that alot of the terminals in BC still use wood pilings in the construction of the docks and slips. Down here in Washington, they are removing wood pilings due to the environmental damage that creosoted wood causes.
They just started to do this and not all of the terminals have been changed over but they are slowly converting them.
I have seen some pictures of the BC docks being constructed and it looks as though there is more concrete and steel being used.
Please fill me in on this.....
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Post by Mike C on Jul 31, 2006 19:15:04 GMT -8
Recently, our slip at Sturdies Bay on Galiano Island was replaced due to age, I think. Also, berth 2 at Tsawwassen was replaced for the same reason. These are just a couple of examples of berth replacement up on the north side of the border. Berths constructed of wood pilings here are still common, i.e. Berth 1 at Tsawwassen, Berths 4,5 at Swartz Bay, and Berth 1 at Departure Bay, to name a few. So to summarize it, we're slowly replacing these terminals with the state of the art steel and concrete. Example, Buckley Bay just south of Comox is currently having a new berth built beside the old one to replace it. The old dock at Buckley Bay:  This is a wood-piling dock at Nanaimo Harbour Terminal:  Hope this clarifies things a little. |
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Post by Doug on Jul 31, 2006 19:26:13 GMT -8
Eventually the wood will rot so it is better to have steel and concrete.
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Post by Curtis on Jul 31, 2006 19:40:25 GMT -8
The Secondary Docks at Saltery Bay and Earls Cove are also wooden
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 31, 2006 19:57:18 GMT -8
BCF has been getting rid of wood pilings and switching to steel structures with new berths.
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 1, 2006 10:02:07 GMT -8
.....and Berth 1 at Departure Bay, to name a few. There wood piling dock, berth 1 at Departure Bay, was replaced about 4 or 5 years ago...... But the wood piling docks are becoming less common now. Only a few minor ferries still utilize the old docks. I could be wrong though, they could only be secondary docks now, like Curtis mentioned with Saltery Bay and Earls Cove. |
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Post by Curtis on Aug 1, 2006 12:10:14 GMT -8
My Guess the secondary Saltery Bay and Earls Cove docks will be replaced soon. The docks at Gravelly Bay on Denman and Shingle Spit on Hornby are still wood as well they'll be replaced though
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 1, 2006 14:57:32 GMT -8
My namesake, Tsawwassen terminal, has probably the most famous remaining wood-piling berth of the BC Ferries system, berth 1. This would be even more significant if it actually is the original from 1960, when the only two terminals were Tsawwassen and Swartz Bay and the only two ships were the Queen of Sidney and the Queen of Tsawwassen. Can someone confirm if berth 1 at Tsawwassen has been replaced since 1960?    BC Archives picture:  |
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 1, 2006 16:27:40 GMT -8
I think they've only replaced the top beam, with that steel beam. That's the Queen of Tsawwassen's former home dock!
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Post by Dane on Aug 1, 2006 17:42:11 GMT -8
The first non-Aux (and non-Wood) berth is at Porteau Cove.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Aug 2, 2006 1:44:34 GMT -8
Engineers could respond here:
Wooden pilings, clustered as dolphins, may have a longer effective life at smaller terminals because of their natural resilience. Concrete cracks, steel bends; but wood sheds a few splinters and rebounds after a moderate impact.
I think wood will be docking our boats for many more years.
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 2, 2006 2:57:54 GMT -8
One of my favorite wood-piling ferry berths of the South Coast of BC is Darrell Bay (Squamish), the former eastern terminus for the ferry (the Garibaldi II) to the Woodfibre mill. Could this be the next wood-piling berth slated for upgrades? - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - -  The Woodfibre terminus:(The dock in the first shot's foreground has a sign at the entrance warning that it's condemned)  |
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 2, 2006 10:38:40 GMT -8
Those Woodfibre docks are still around, untouched and abandoned of course. I haven't heard any more about the Garibaldi II returning to help dismantle the Pulp Mill. There's still plans to transform the pulp mill into a wind operated electric generator. So you never know, they might still need the ferry.
Reading in the paper the other day, there has been theives stealing boats and taking them out to Woodfibre, to steal leftover material and equipment. But they've sunk some boats out there while in the action of doing that, as they overfilled the boats! That would've been a long and cold swim home...
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 2, 2006 17:10:56 GMT -8
My namesake, Tsawwassen terminal, has probably the most famous remaining wood-piling berth of the BC Ferries system, berth 1. This would be even more significant if it actually is the original from 1960, when the only two terminals were Tsawwassen and Swartz Bay and the only two ships were the Queen of Sidney and the Queen of Tsawwassen. Can someone confirm if berth 1 at Tsawwassen has been replaced since 1960? Compare your modern picture of berth One at Tsawwassen with this one from when the terminal was brand new. Other than the covering over the top of the structure, it looks to be the same. BTW, the covering, as I recall, was like a up-side-down half corrugated drainage culvert.  copied from The Ships of British Columbia (Bannerman) |
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