Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 11, 2007 9:04:26 GMT -8
I havent read the article yet but in the paper my mom was telling me there was a story in there about an old couple who were sailing from Swartz Bay to TSA on the Queen of Vancouver and they were trapped in their car the whole time as they couldent get out. As most of you would know how cramped the car decks on the V's are. The couple ahead had the same problem but managed to get out through the window or something. So they went up and talked to some crew member and told them about it. They dident seem to concerned. Told another one about it and the reason they said is because they had to load as many cars on as possible to they dident leave any behind. Something was also mentioned about the crew not being familiar with the loading procedures, hmm  , you think they would know, why do they have crews that arent familiar with the ships. So BC Ferries finally compensated them by bringing down coffee and food to them down in the car. Never offered to help them get out or anything. So what is up with that??? It seems that some crews are more helpful and nicer than other crews. So yeah I dont know what's up with that. Just thought I would see what you guys think! |
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Post by Mike C on Jan 11, 2007 13:57:53 GMT -8
Hmm....
My Granparents were once almost stuck in their car while the Queen of Cowichan was underway between Horseshoe Bay and Departure Bay, they (the crew) never did much to help.
Thanks for posting that Karl; this is a subject that's been bugging me for quite some time.
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 11, 2007 17:57:28 GMT -8
So more info on this is it was Jan 6th which was the Saturday afternoon when the SOBC was out of service and the Queen of Vancouver was the replacement which would explain why the crew wasent familiar with the ship as I would think maybe it was the 3pm sailing from TSA. But still you think they would be getting them familiar with the ship before the first sailing would of left. hmm!
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Post by Curtis on Jan 11, 2007 18:00:45 GMT -8
Not the best trip on the ferry I'd guess. There's always some type of problem on a sailing.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 12, 2007 8:47:02 GMT -8
Well, Karl, how long would you allow a crew to familiarize themselves with a vessel? I've been working on the Super class for WSF for years, and I'm still finding new stuff. Though admittedly my biggest challenge is going to a water fountain that isn't there anymore...
Seriously, though, how long is appropriate? A quick look-around to figure out how to load the vessel? Time enough for a set of safety drills? How many? A brief chance to inspect the vessel for cleanliness? How long there?
I'm not trying to be a butthead, just illustrating that a boat switch can quickly spiral out of hand. ;D that being said, there are basic loading principles to be adhered to, one of which is providing a way out of a vehicle. Not necessarily on both sides. (If the lanes on a Super class were altered to allow everyone to open both sides of their vehicle doors fully, our 144-car vessel would become an 89-car vessel and boy would people scream about that!)
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Post by Scott on Jan 12, 2007 21:59:26 GMT -8
They brought down coffee and food, that's nice. Did they bring a toilet? How about a blanket to keep warm? Sounds like a poor response to me. Even more than a comfort issue, it's a safety issue. People should not be parked where they can't get out of their car.
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 12, 2007 22:04:02 GMT -8
Yeah that is true. I mean what if there was an emergency and they had to evacuate the ships. People stuck in their cars cant get out. That's not good!
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Post by Engineer on Jan 13, 2007 19:10:02 GMT -8
well its always been a toss up? jam cars in, and get everyone on or park them with spaces and leave people behind, sitting in the parking lot for 2 hours . which do you want to be?
Depends who you ask.........
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Post by Retrovision on Jan 13, 2007 19:30:22 GMT -8
well its always been a toss up? jam cars in, and get everyone on or park them with spaces and leave people behind, sitting in the parking lot for 2 hours . which do you want to be? Depends who you ask......... Of course the former, jamming as many cars on as possible, is followed as much as possible now that BC Ferries is operating under a truly corporate model. They might always meet the essentials when it comes to such basics as safety and style (to make the customers feel like they're more comfortable than they actually are, for example), but beyond that profits will always take the front seat to any and all other frivolities. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 13, 2007 21:28:37 GMT -8
Challenge: I guess the comment of profits taking a front-seat to any/all frivolities got my brain ticking. First, what is a frivolity? Per Merriam-Webster, online: 1a : of little weight or importance b : having no sound basis (as in fact or law) <a frivolous lawsuit> 2 a : lacking in seriousness b : marked by unbecoming levity So, what the previous poster was saying is that profit is more important than items of little weight or importance. Sounds sound to me. The company has bills to pay, workers to pay, new ships to pay....and so financial prudence is important. That's supposed to have been a main reason in the restructuring to the private scheme. d*** the frivolities, they have a ferry-system to run, as efficiently as possible. Conclusion to challenge: - the ruling on the field stands. The comment makes sense to me now. It just sounded rhetorical at first reading. |
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Post by Retrovision on Jan 14, 2007 17:56:27 GMT -8
Challenge: I guess the comment of profits taking a front-seat to any/all frivolities got my brain ticking. First, what is a frivolity? Per Merriam-Webster, online: 1a : of little weight or importance b : having no sound basis (as in fact or law) <a frivolous lawsuit> 2 a : lacking in seriousness b : marked by unbecoming levity So, what the previous poster was saying is that profit is more important than items of little weight or importance. Sounds sound to me. The company has bills to pay, workers to pay, new ships to pay....and so financial prudence is important. That's supposed to have been a main reason in the restructuring to the private scheme. d*** the frivolities, they have a ferry-system to run, as efficiently as possible. Conclusion to challenge: - the ruling on the field stands. The comment makes sense to me now. It just sounded rhetorical at first reading. So sorry - I guess that I should have considered my audience a little better and included the alternate spelling, ' frivilousnessicities', as well.   |
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, you think they would know, why do they have crews that arent familiar with the ships. So BC Ferries finally compensated them by bringing down coffee and food to them down in the car. Never offered to help them get out or anything. So what is up with that??? It seems that some crews are more helpful and nicer than other crews. So yeah I dont know what's up with that. Just thought I would see what you guys think!
