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Post by Retrovision on Apr 19, 2006 8:22:03 GMT -8
[glow=blue,4,300]Do not take this lightly![/glow]
[glow=white,4,300]Deborah Marshall's statement, that BCFS will "not likely" run a ship to the Queen Charlotte Islands this summer (and end up only serving the tourist trade of the route between Pt.Hardy and Pr.Rupert), is *quite possibly* ("Likely"?) a way of stating their intentions over the long-term. [/glow]
...I find it interesting, the fact that most British Columbians will [glow=white,4,300]*likely*[/glow] not realize the full magnitude of this statement by BCFS.[/b]
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 19, 2006 8:48:28 GMT -8
Dosent seem right. The route they need a ship on is the Charlottes. The Inside Passge is mainly a tourist route and they could probably do without.
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Post by tyty on Apr 19, 2006 12:23:23 GMT -8
Of course they could do without the Inside Passage service! The Queen of Chilliwack can serve the mid-coast ports as part of the Discovery Coast route.
Why not have the QPR do only ONE round trip sailing of the Inside Passage per week and use it the rest of the time for Prince Rupert-Skidegate???
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 19, 2006 14:04:53 GMT -8
Yeah I am wondering that myself too!
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 19, 2006 14:25:53 GMT -8
Of course they could do without the Inside Passage service! The Queen of Chilliwack can serve the mid-coast ports ... Thank-You! *That* would be the choice that serves the people, not the bureaucracy. The opposite would be to do what they're seemingly planning on doing.
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Post by Jca Christian on Apr 19, 2006 17:19:48 GMT -8
I don,t see why the QPr Can not be dedicated on the Queen Charrlotes run this summer. Keep The Nimpkish where she is and use the Queen of Chilliwack on the inside Passage. Heck, it should not matter anymore as passengers don't get the use of the Cabins. The Chilliwack could make a stop at Mcloghlin Bay both northbound and Southbound and passengers for other MId Coast stops could Transfer to the Nimpkish.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 19, 2006 17:28:14 GMT -8
I agree that the serving the Queen Charlottes has to take priority over the Inside Passage 'tourist route'. Using the Chilliwack on the Inside Passage is a problem though, because of it's speed. It would take three days to do one round trip.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 19, 2006 18:11:45 GMT -8
Or just run the winter schedule all summer with the Rupert doing both runs along with the Nimpkish doing the mid coast stops and the Chilliwack!
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Post by Doug on Apr 19, 2006 20:33:42 GMT -8
They should run the Rupert full-time on both the Discovery Coast and Queen Charlottes and have the Chilliwack doing the Inside Passage.
On second though, make that vise-versa. Chilliwack serving the essential routes and Rupert on Inside Passage. If the Chilliwack can cross the Queen Charlotte Sound, it can certainly cross the Hecate Strait for a few months.
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Post by Neil on Apr 19, 2006 21:49:17 GMT -8
Would you really want to be on a tub like the Chilliwack, crossing what would likely be eight hours of open ocean? Hecate Strait is a different matter from the stretch of open water the Chilliwack usually traverses, and I think I'd rather put my car on the barge and take the plane over. BC Ferries isn't that desperate, I'm sure.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 19, 2006 21:59:12 GMT -8
What airlines serve the Charlottes??? I know Air Canada Jazz has a few flights, and Pacific Coastal I think goes there. Couldent something be arranged with those airlines for a reduced price or something for flights to the Charlottes??
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 19, 2006 22:05:54 GMT -8
I don,t see why the QPr Can not be dedicated on the Queen Charrlotes run this summer. Keep The Nimpkish where she is and use the Queen of Chilliwack on the inside Passage. Heck, it should not matter anymore as passengers don't get the use of the Cabins. ...But can you imagine the waiting list, though, without cabins *or* capacity on the Chilliwack; there would be so little capacity compared to relatively high demand.
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 19, 2006 22:09:48 GMT -8
...I'm surprised that it hasn't been mentioned yet.
. . . ...isn't it obvious? (*not* regarding any previous post)
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Post by Neil on Apr 19, 2006 22:11:56 GMT -8
There are also smaller, regional airlines that would love the business. I don't think air capacity will be a problem. The thing is, what do you do when you're waiting for your car to get off it's twelve hour barge ride?
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Post by Scott on Apr 19, 2006 22:13:28 GMT -8
The Queen of Prince Rupert.. a ship with no cabins, few amenities (compared to the Queen of the North), an 18 hour trip.. that's no tourist draw. I would do it, but that's just because I'd like to see the old ferry before she's scrapped... and I don't care much for all the extras on board... but most tourists aren't like me:) Sure, do a few trips per week to keep the traffic moving between Port Hardy and Prince Rupert, but it just won't be the same as the Queen of the North.
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Post by Neil on Apr 19, 2006 22:20:50 GMT -8
Anybody have a stateroom on both the 'Rupert and the 'North? I found that the one we had on the 'Rupert was bigger and more comfortable than the one on the 'North. The bathroom in the 'North was about the smallest I've ever seen.
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 19, 2006 22:54:19 GMT -8
Anybody have a stateroom on both the 'Rupert and the 'North? I found that the one we had on the 'Rupert was bigger and more comfortable than the one on the 'North. The bathroom in the 'North was about the smallest I've ever seen. Better yet, has anyone had an ' outside' cabin on either of the 2 vessels that have cabins? (as in, water-side) For years I've wanted to take a trip on the ' North with an ' outside' cabin.
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Post by tyty on Apr 19, 2006 23:57:48 GMT -8
Anybody have a stateroom on both the 'Rupert and the 'North? I found that the one we had on the 'Rupert was bigger and more comfortable than the one on the 'North. The bathroom in the 'North was about the smallest I've ever seen. I've had staterooms on both. I stayed on the Tween deck and Promenade deck of the QON on trips during the 1990s, and I also had a stateroom for a sailing on the QPR in 2003. The room I had on the QPR seemed about the same to me as the Tween deck rooms I had on the QON, except the former had a bathroom. The Tween deck rooms on the QON did not have showers; you had to use a common shower facility down the hall. The one time I stayed on the Promenade deck of the QON, the room seemed bigger and it included a bathroom. I agree, it was pretty small.
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Post by bobberticus on Apr 20, 2006 18:00:59 GMT -8
Anybody have a stateroom on both the 'Rupert and the 'North? I found that the one we had on the 'Rupert was bigger and more comfortable than the one on the 'North. The bathroom in the 'North was about the smallest I've ever seen. The bathroom I remember on the QPR was pretty small, I dunno how much smaller you could possibly go? Also, as for the cabins or staterooms or whatever, I think I had an easier time sleeping on the floor amongst strangers than I did in the room, because the noise in the rooms was pretty bad. lots of vibrating, among other things. Also, I think I had a hard time, waking up every now and then with no perception of time, being a windowless room, adjacent to a windowless hall...
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Post by Mike C on Apr 20, 2006 19:11:29 GMT -8
I've been aboard the QPR on the Inside Passage... It's not all that bad... If, you have a window cabin, that is...
I only woke up once, and that was because we had arrived at Bella Bella. I never got off, but they did make an announcement, and there was some disturbance, coming from the hall...
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