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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 28, 2007 18:14:56 GMT -8
*fuse is very short* I got one question, what the hell is the point in searching all the vehicles in the compound that are going to be leaving? Have they even searched the back pack, and if they are sailing without investigating the back pack, then why the big reaction and if the vessels have been cleared, please tell me what is the point in fustrating passengers?
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 28, 2007 18:20:51 GMT -8
Graham, the B's are V's. Thje distinction between them is a bit silly. Granted, but significances to me include such things as the original intentions between their placement and the effect on their 'silly' differences of design, etc. I think of it this way, off the top of my head, as even if a bridge is extremely similar in design, if it's at a different location it's not the same bridge. Not an apt comparison in almost any way, of course, except for how real it's made by how trivial the media would consider the names of one kind of bridge and not the other. Although I'll always capitulate to those senior to me in knowledge, but I'll not ever forget that before they were classed as such (or were they originally?) the Vs were Route 1 vessels and the Bs were Nanaimo vessels. After all, who here doesn't think it's just as silly for our news media to not be able to take the few seconds to research - their job after all - what vessel they're talking about, and not feel a little insulted when actual bridges get such more dignified treatment in the same kind of news items.  |
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Post by Ian on Jul 28, 2007 18:24:49 GMT -8
What ferries are at tsawwassen ? New West Vancouver Nanaimo SOBC Bowen Queen  |
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 28, 2007 18:27:06 GMT -8
I've been down in the city doing some shopping all afternoon, and just got back now. So it's pretty interesting reading the posts tonight as all of this has unfolded. This reminds me of the Anthrax scare a few years ago on the Queen of Nanaimo. It will be interesting to watch what happens tonight, if the Route 2 Ferries run through the night. Horseshoe Bay was looking pretty quiet an hour ago as I drove through, so traffic sitting outside of Tsawwassen hasn't swormed that terminal....yet? Also, I'm wondering how they're enforcing the fact that nobody at Tsawwassen can use their cell phones.
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 18:38:31 GMT -8
7:30pm on News1130
As to the $50,000 reward. Seems this is the 3rd threat in 5 or 6 months. And Ferries is going to aggressively try to stop those who are making them.
Also I semi-quasi watch the SOVI pull into Swartz bay. Didn’t see any cars unload over the camera. The boat is now loaded up and I assume is heading over to Tsawwassen.
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Post by staffer on Jul 28, 2007 18:45:12 GMT -8
The Queen of Alberni will now be running on route 2 for the rest of the night. Traffic is now building at Dep. Bay.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 28, 2007 18:45:57 GMT -8
According to CC the Alberni is doing a 8:20pm sailing from Departure Bay to Horseshoe Bay.
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Post by hergfest on Jul 28, 2007 18:48:09 GMT -8
Using the Alberni is the smart move since her crew is on until at least 1am, where the Coq's crew has already gone home. Then the Alberni can just go to Duke Point when she is done.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 28, 2007 18:57:39 GMT -8
Hmm, I think one of my good friends is working on the Alberni tonight. Too bad he has his cell phone turned off right now! Anyways, here's an actual departures page to keep in the archives. 4 different C's running on Route 2.  |
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Post by staffer on Jul 28, 2007 18:57:40 GMT -8
Using the Alberni is the smart move since her crew is on until at least 1am, where the Coq's crew has already gone home. Then the Alberni can just go to Duke Point when she is done. That is true. The crews on the Cowichan and Oak Bay have been told that they may have to work overtime tonight by doing one more round trip since David Hahn had said that route 2 will keep going as long as it takes. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 28, 2007 18:58:35 GMT -8
Graham, the B's are V's. Thje distinction between them is a bit silly. Granted, but significances to me include such things as the original intentions between their placement and the effect on their 'silly' differences of design, etc. I think of it this way, off the top of my head, as even if a bridge is extremely similar in design, if it's at a different location it's not the same bridge. Not an apt comparison in almost any way, of course, except for how real it's made by how trivial the media would consider the names of one kind of bridge and not the other. Although I'll always capitulate to those senior to me in knowledge, but I'll not ever forget that before they were classed as such (or were they originally?) the Vs were Route 1 vessels and the Bs were Nanaimo vessels. After all, who here doesn't think it's just as silly for our news media to not be able to take the few seconds to research - their job after all - what vessel they're talking about, and not feel a little insulted when actual bridges get such more dignified treatment in the same kind of news items. According to the Bannerman book the Victoria class was born in 1981 When the Q of Victoria and her sister the Vancouver, were lifted. Subsequently the Esq. & Saanich were also lifted. From that point forward the four were referred to as the 'V-class'. If the extra deck made them V's, as distinct from the unlifted B's, then the QoNWM is a V by virtue of having recieved an extra car deck in the early 1990's. |
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Post by hergfest on Jul 28, 2007 18:59:33 GMT -8
I was watching the vessel positions, and was it just me or did the Saanich do a u-turn before she reached Active Pass back to Tsa?
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 19:08:43 GMT -8
8:00pm CKNW
Ticket sales at Swartz bay and Duke point going to Tsawwassen will no longer be sold tonight. Vehicles already in each terminal will be moved to Tsawwassen.
8:00pm 1130news
Regarding the original incident. The Queen of New West had already departed and suddenly passengers on the outside deck saw coast guard vessels approach the ferry. Other passengers noticed crew members searching garbage cans. The ferry would then turn around and return to Tsawwassen.
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Post by Coastal Drought on Jul 28, 2007 19:20:44 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 28, 2007 19:25:05 GMT -8
According to the Bannerman book the Victoria class was born in 1981 When the Q of Victoria and her sister the Vancouver, were lifted. Hmm yes, I do remember this assertion in the book. This great source makes up my, and I'd assume many others', foundation for what I know about our ferry system's history. According to the Bannerman book the Victoria class was born in 1981 When the Q of Victoria and her sister the Vancouver, were lifted. Subsequently the Esq. & Saanich were also lifted. From that point forward the four were referred to as the 'V-class'. If the extra deck made them V's, as distinct from the unlifted B's, then the QoNWM is a V by virtue of having recieved an extra car deck in the early 1990's. This brings up a lot of questions for me, and I'd hope for many others also, and I'm a fan of questions. Rhetorical in this case for the most part until history dictates it, but some of these inquiries include surrounding the actual design aspects of the '91 lifting being different, let alone its being so long after the original liftings, and if the lifting of the QoNW was under the same umbrella of plans as the original 4 liftings and related on paper to the other 4 this way also. I'm also quite a fan of not dusting off the hammer and chisel until atleast some attempt at concensus, in all matters. |
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 19:25:53 GMT -8
8:22 1130news
May be relieve vessels heading to Tsawwassen, News 1130 still waiting for confirmation from Bcferries though.
This might relate to the apparent U-turn made by the Queen of Saanich (use to incorrectly read Tsawwassen).
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 28, 2007 19:27:29 GMT -8
You sure it was the Queen of Tsawwassen, I heard it was the Queen of Saanich.
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Post by DENelson83 on Jul 28, 2007 19:27:48 GMT -8
As of 20:29, BC Ferries' current conditions site is down.
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 19:30:11 GMT -8
Whoops my bad, Queen of Saanich is the correct boat. Been typing Tsawwassen too much today.
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Post by Coastal Drought on Jul 28, 2007 19:32:05 GMT -8
As of 20:29, BC Ferries' current conditions site is down. Just checked. Its not. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 28, 2007 19:34:58 GMT -8
It's an on off thing due to traffic overloads.
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 19:48:41 GMT -8
8:45 News 1130
Have a semi-quasi confirmation that those in the Tsawwassen terminal will be permitted to sail from their current location. What are being called relief vessels are on their way. I assume this refers to the Queen of Saanich which did it’s u-turn, and the SOVI that has the final load of traffic from Swartz bay.
Shoot, I just checked the Tsawwassen webcam and many of the cars in the compound are now gone. I assume they are on the Queen of Saanich but don’t know for sure.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 28, 2007 20:04:33 GMT -8
It looks like the Queen of Nanaimo is just staying at Long Harbour. She hasent moved all evening! The New West is on route to Duke Point. Alberni is on route to HSB. It has been a crazy day today for BC Ferries!
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Post by ferryrider42 on Jul 28, 2007 20:08:11 GMT -8
9:00pm News 1130
Terminal should be open by the morning. Currently the light board outside of Tsawwassen lists the terminal as closed and a pair of police a km further up confirm that.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 28, 2007 20:15:28 GMT -8
The Queen of Vancouver sailed at 8:05pm from TSA and the SOBC sailed at 8:55pm from TSA to Swartz Bay and the SOVI sailed at 8pm from Swartz Bay to TSA!
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