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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 1:12:14 GMT -8
Here are a few suggestions for some amenities on board the Routes 1 and 2 vessels, or any other of adequate sailing time and passenger load. - A pub. Okay, MADD might not take too well to the idea, but how about alcohol only be served during the first 45 minutes or so on sailings that are 1h30 in length or longer, and limit their selection to low alcohol (sub-20%) drinks, such as beer and wine? Sounds reasonable enough. It's not like drinkers don't chug it down inside their cars in the vehicle decks anyways. Besides, what more refreshing and romantic way is there to cruise through the scenery of the ferry's path than with a glass of wine in hand?
- A casino. Not that I gamble myself, but some slot machines and maybe a blackjack table or two may provide a good option to pass the time during the sailings for those who are into that sort of thing. And a good way to milk every last penny out of them too. ;D
- An Internet cafe. We already have a cafe. Why not provide some public access machines with them too, so those who do not carry around notebooks can also browse, check e-mail, play games or get some work done over the net during the time spent sailing?
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Post by Curtis on Sept 20, 2006 6:51:22 GMT -8
Okay the first two suggestions will probably never happen on such short sailings less the 3 hours long. But the third is a possibility.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 20, 2006 8:52:48 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 20, 2006 10:21:11 GMT -8
I agree the first two would never happen. We dont need all that for 1hr 35 min crossings. Maybe on the northern routes it would work but I dont think down here it would be a good idea.
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Post by Balfour on Sept 20, 2006 10:51:35 GMT -8
The Casino and Pub would be a big hit with the long northern routes, but would not be a good idea with the Major routes (1, 2, 3, and 30 etc...). The Internet cafe is a real trend and would be great for most routes served by large vessels.
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 13:35:31 GMT -8
If not a full blown pub and casino, how about just a bar and a few slot machines?
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Post by Mac Write on Sept 20, 2006 13:57:03 GMT -8
hmm $6 for the entire trip and I would live in the Internet Cafe.
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Post by Mike C on Sept 20, 2006 14:15:16 GMT -8
How 'bout day care for the little ones, and a mini-bar and mini-casino for the remaining few?
But I think we're beggining to sound a bit like a cruise ship
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Post by kylefossett on Sept 20, 2006 14:19:34 GMT -8
limit their selection to low alcohol (sub-20%) drinks, such as beer and wine? Sounds reasonable enough. [/list][/quote] less than 20% alc. there is as much alcohol in a 12oz beer, 5oz wine and 1oz shot of hard liquor. |
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 15:35:42 GMT -8
limit their selection to low alcohol (sub-20%) drinks, such as beer and wine? Sounds reasonable enough. [/list][/quote] less than 20% alc. there is as much alcohol in a 12oz beer, 5oz wine and 1oz shot of hard liquor. [/quote] You're not going to gulp it down as quickly, though. There's only so much you'll drink over a 45-minute period anyways, right? If it's still such a concern, scale it back to just the first 30 minutes of sailing. |
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 15:39:08 GMT -8
How 'bout day care for the little ones, and a mini-bar and mini-casino for the remaining few? But I think we're beggining to sound a bit like a cruise ship How about we throw the jackasses who'd rather drink and gamble than tend to their kids during a 95-minute crossing overboard? ;D |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 20, 2006 15:59:59 GMT -8
There was talk of putting wireless internet onboard for laptop users, but I have not heard any plans to implement it - yet...
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Post by kylefossett on Sept 20, 2006 17:56:47 GMT -8
less than 20% alc. there is as much alcohol in a 12oz beer, 5oz wine and 1oz shot of hard liquor. You're not going to gulp it down as quickly, though. There's only so much you'll drink over a 45-minute period anyways, right? If it's still such a concern, scale it back to just the first 30 minutes of sailing. will never happen because bc ferries does not want to take on the same responsibilities as a pub. could you imagine some guy drinks a couple cold ones onboard the queen of vancouver and then goes screaming down the pat bay highway and plows into the side of a mini van with mom dad two kids and the dog going to butchart gardens for the day and kills a couple of these people. who is responsible? some of this goes back to bc ferries as a company and the person serving the drinks for over serving this person. |
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 20, 2006 19:29:02 GMT -8
Slot machines in casinos around the Lower Mainland are already contentious enough; with addictions to gambling having such dire consequences as it is, I think it would be cruel and unusual to put slot machines in a confined space on unparalleled sea links to the island.
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 21:39:56 GMT -8
You're not going to gulp it down as quickly, though. There's only so much you'll drink over a 45-minute period anyways, right? If it's still such a concern, scale it back to just the first 30 minutes of sailing. will never happen because bc ferries does not want to take on the same responsibilities as a pub. could you imagine some guy drinks a couple cold ones onboard the queen of vancouver and then goes screaming down the pat bay highway and plows into the side of a mini van with mom dad two kids and the dog going to butchart gardens for the day and kills a couple of these people. who is responsible? some of this goes back to bc ferries as a company and the person serving the drinks for over serving this person. Not even with the newly privatized for-profit BC Ferries? How much can you overserve a patron over a 30 minute period anyways, with over an hour to sober up at that? If it's still a problem, then ration a maximum of two drinks per person or something. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 20, 2006 21:48:44 GMT -8
We dont need any of these on the southern routes. It's only a 1hr and 35 min to 2 hours at the most on the mainland crossings. Surely people can do without these for that long. I know I can!
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Post by Balfour on Sept 20, 2006 21:49:39 GMT -8
I say it's best to keep the pub idea to the long northern routes. There really is no point in having alcoholic drinks served on the major routes because they are not long enough for someone to sober up properly.
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 22:06:38 GMT -8
We dont need any of these on the southern routes. It's only a 1hr and 35 min to 2 hours at the most on the mainland crossings. Surely people can do without these for that long. I know I can! It's not a matter of whether or not they can. It's a matter of providing the most enjoyable sailing experience, while at the same time getting the most out of the commercial potential that comes with it. |
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 20, 2006 23:36:52 GMT -8
I say it's best to keep the pub idea to the long northern routes. For those routes, I would also add some live music in a lounge like setting. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 21, 2006 6:52:38 GMT -8
We dont need any of these on the southern routes. It's only a 1hr and 35 min to 2 hours at the most on the mainland crossings. Surely people can do without these for that long. I know I can! It's not a matter of whether or not they can. It's a matter of providing the most enjoyable sailing experience, while at the same time getting the most out of the commercial potential that comes with it. I am the only one who suspects that Ruddernuts is really Raif Mair in disguise? They have the same style of discussion......keep on hammering until everyone agrees with you. |
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Post by Balfour on Sept 21, 2006 9:11:36 GMT -8
I say it's best to keep the pub idea to the long northern routes. For those routes, I would also add some live music in a lounge like setting. Excellent Idea! I like your thinking! |
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 21, 2006 13:28:13 GMT -8
It's not a matter of whether or not they can. It's a matter of providing the most enjoyable sailing experience, while at the same time getting the most out of the commercial potential that comes with it. I am the only one who suspects that Ruddernuts is really Raif Mair in disguise? They have the same style of discussion......keep on hammering until everyone agrees with you. This calls for a big...  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 23, 2006 14:00:05 GMT -8
I am the only one who suspects that Ruddernuts is really Raif Mair in disguise? They have the same style of discussion......keep on hammering until everyone agrees with you. This calls for a big... Pardon this off-topic, but Ruddernut has got my attention, and I'd like to engage him/her in some Q&A: I'd prefer to read real words re your response. I've tried twice now to question you on your style, and you have chosen not to engage in a reply. I am trying to gain some context re you, so that I can better understand your posts, and see where you are coming from. You've posted 47 times in 11 days on this board, so obviously you are interested in this forum's issues, and obviously you like to post. I find your style a bit brash, and to me it appears somewhat narrow-minded. I really would appreciate you replying to this, as I'm interested to know if this is an accurate reflection of your attitude/personality, or if I'm reading you wrong. All I know is that you're from Coquitlam; that's all you've told us. I'm not sure if you're very young or older, and if you just like taking a "take it or leave it" style of approach, or if you're still developing your social skills (that's not a shot against you, as I honestly don't have a clue if you're a 10 year old, or if you're 40.....as you've given us no clue, other than a barrage of opinionated posts). I trust I've articulated my thoughts well for you, please respond with words too. Thanks. |
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Post by ruddernut on Sept 23, 2006 14:57:45 GMT -8
This calls for a big... Pardon this off-topic, but Ruddernut has got my attention, and I'd like to engage him/her in some Q&A: I'd prefer to read real words re your response. I've tried twice now to question you on your style, and you have chosen not to engage in a reply. I am trying to gain some context re you, so that I can better understand your posts, and see where you are coming from. You've posted 47 times in 11 days on this board, so obviously you are interested in this forum's issues, and obviously you like to post. I find your style a bit brash, and to me it appears somewhat narrow-minded. I really would appreciate you replying to this, as I'm interested to know if this is an accurate reflection of your attitude/personality, or if I'm reading you wrong. All I know is that you're from Coquitlam; that's all you've told us. I'm not sure if your very young or older, and if you just like taking a "take it or leave it" style of approach, or if you're still developing your social skills (that's not a shot against you, as I honestly don't have a clue if you're a 10 year old, or if you're 40.....as you've given us no clue, other than a barrage of opinionated posts). I trust I've articulated my thoughts well for you, please respond with words too. Thanks. WTF? All I was doing was raising some ideas and arguing some points on how the ferries can be improved for some casual discussion, and dare we even say debate? What's with all this thorough analysis and deep probing into personal details? Are you trying to make those who do not meet a certain set of criteria or who do not wish to divulge too much personal detail too soon feel uncomfortable and deter them from participating here? And if you must know, no I am not young. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 23, 2006 15:19:13 GMT -8
Thanks, that response gave me exactly the type of info that I was looking for. I believe that I understand you better now.
As far as you wanting to not divulge too much about yourself too soon, I'd say that 47 posts in 11 days, including some matter-of-factly statements that didn't seem too open for debate, allows some of us to wonder about who you really are.
Regarding the age thing, yeah, I really did need a clue about that. After having a few unproductive debates with members in recent months who turned out to be under the age of 13, age is definitely an issue here. It's all about context, re knowing where a poster is coming from.
Is this none of my business? Well, I go back to the 47 posts in 11 days thing. You're obviously a frequent converser here, and so it's good to know where you're coming from.
You're absolutely welcome here. No question about that.
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