Neil
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Post by Neil on May 4, 2006 15:13:43 GMT -8
No, I don't think you're nitpicking, Tsawwassen, I guess I've just always considered the New West to be one of the pack because it's hull is identical to the V's, and superstructure very similar, and of course, when the ferries were built, the seven major ships following the Sidney and Tsawwassen were considered completely inter changeable. Is it the consensus on this board that the New West is not a V? I'm here to be educated. I like the 5:15am also because if I make the connection, I can be at my place on Hornby by 10, and in the winter it takes all day to get the cabin warmed up and un-dampened.
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Post by Retrovision on May 4, 2006 15:24:38 GMT -8
I'll second that. Half of the reason that I'm on this forum is to be corrected.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on May 4, 2006 15:43:00 GMT -8
Aren't the V's and the B's technically still sisters even though the V's have been lifted? Was there any huge difference when they weren't lifted? And even though the New West is technically a B, she looks exactly the same (I think)
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Post by Curtis on May 4, 2006 16:25:43 GMT -8
The B Class or the Nanaimo Ferries were a bit of a modified original Spaulding Design the snack bar and gift shop were in the opposite places on the ships, the funnel wasn't supported on the B Class ships so when you rode on them it was sort of different from the Victoria Ferries they just had the design modified the Nanny New West and Burnaby were virtually Identical to the Sannich and Esquimalt exterior wise except for the funnel and the gift shop and cafeteria interior wise.
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Post by Ferryman on May 4, 2006 17:15:53 GMT -8
The New West also has a bit more of a clearance on the upper car deck. I'm not sure if its the same as a C-Class, but it's definitely higher than a V. I suppose the height of the upper car deck is about the same height as the Galley deck on a C-Class.
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Post by Ferryman on May 4, 2006 17:21:35 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on May 4, 2006 18:09:41 GMT -8
The New West also has a bit more of a clearance on the upper car deck. I'm not sure if its the same as a C-Class, but it's definitely higher than a V. I suppose the height of the upper car deck is about the same height as the Galley deck on a C-Class. Yes the New West's upper vehicle deck does have more clearance than her cousins, and it's quite a significant difference when you compare her to a V. ...Personally, I think of the New West as a cousin to the V Class vessels, since that's the closest term to sister that I've ever heard used when comparing two classes of vehicle/vessel. I'll be travelling through Tsawwassen terminal tomorrow, and will try to get a pic of the New West's upper vehicle-deck entrance(s).
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Post by Airchime on May 6, 2006 0:43:46 GMT -8
I've heard the New West referred to as a "Super V" because of the higher clearance on the middle deck and the higher engine horsepower.
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Post by Retrovision on May 6, 2006 6:38:18 GMT -8
But the Vs were 4 of a kind; the 'New West is one of three of a quite similar, but different class of ship, the B...
It could be argued that she should be called a "Super-B";
But the conflict between claimed-cassifications really just makes me want to put her into a class of her own.
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Post by Dane on May 7, 2006 23:14:02 GMT -8
Scrap Class? How about that?
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 7, 2006 23:20:40 GMT -8
Well, expect to see the New West going in for a refit similar to the Nanaimo soon... It will be another additional distinguishing feature of her compared to the other V's...
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Post by Mike C on May 13, 2006 16:16:25 GMT -8
...and then the V's will be gone as the Coastals arrive.
Then a lot of people will think that there is still one V remaining: Queen of New Westminster, when clearly it is a dfferent class of ship.
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Post by Ferryman on May 13, 2006 20:06:26 GMT -8
The V's are certified until 2009. So that will be a year after 'Coastal Constipation', err Celebration arrives.
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Post by Mike C on May 18, 2006 10:48:35 GMT -8
Well then!!?? What will the V's do? Will they sit somewhere random, like the Sidney? Or will they continue service as extra vessels?
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Post by Retrovision on May 18, 2006 11:56:24 GMT -8
We'll need the Vs for the 2010 Olympics; volume will then inevitably drop off, soon making the Vs surplus.
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Post by Dane on May 21, 2006 19:40:20 GMT -8
BC Ferries' official line so far: "We don't expect extraordinary volume over the Olympic period"
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Post by Political Incorrectness on May 21, 2006 19:58:40 GMT -8
One statement describes this "what the hell." They are going to get a very rude awakening if they do stick to that.
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Post by Retrovision on May 21, 2006 20:04:17 GMT -8
BC Ferries' official line so far: "We don't expect extraordinary volume over the Olympic period" >spitsoutdrink< What gets to me is the number of British Columbians that take statements from companies like BCFS as gospel.
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Post by Curtis on May 22, 2006 8:18:49 GMT -8
Well thats dum those will be their busiest weeks of that winter
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Post by Mike C on May 23, 2006 10:44:30 GMT -8
BC Ferries' official line so far: "We don't expect extraordinary volume over the Olympic period" Such BS.. If they're sticking to that, they may as well say that summer is their low season.
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Post by hergfest on May 23, 2006 23:07:54 GMT -8
While I do believe that the Olympics will be a big traffic period for BC Ferries, how many people want to go to the Island in the middle of Feburary as a tourist?
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Post by Balfour on May 24, 2006 0:13:01 GMT -8
Who here can recall how busy traffic on the ferries was during Expo 86?
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 24, 2006 5:50:36 GMT -8
foot-passenger space from Departure Bay was a sell-out, for the final couple of weekends of the fair, in Sept or Oct 1986.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 24, 2006 8:00:32 GMT -8
....and it's not so much a matter of tourists going to the island, as of Island residents coming over here for the Games. They had better be prepared with peak season capacity.
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Post by Mike C on May 24, 2006 17:33:02 GMT -8
...damn right. Here's, what I think, they should do: Put the Sprits, a C and a Coastal on Route 1; Put the Alberni and 2 V's on Route 30; Put 2 C's and 2 Coastals on Route 2; Put 1 C and 1 V on Route 3; Put a B and the Chilliwack on Route 9; Put a PR and I on Route 5; and put a Century and a PR on Fulford-SWB. The New West cna be on Standby.
If they're smart, they'll call the Discovery Coast off, and put the Floating Box where it belongs, on Route 9. The Nimpkish can serve mid-coast stops, and the Tsawwassen will serve Route 7.
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