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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 22, 2005 17:53:10 GMT -8
From BCF Website
Berth Two at Swartz Bay Terminal will be closed from Wednesday, January 4, until early June 2006 while the berth is completely rebuilt.
The capital project includes demolishing current berth two structures and wingwalls and reconstructing a new style floating berth. This new berth will be the first of its kind for BC Ferries and will offer greater flexibility for vessels at Swartz Bay.
During the berth closure, there may be minor Southern Gulf Islands sailing delays with the Mayne Queen, the Queen of Cumberland, and the Skeena Queen scheduled at Swartz Bay at similar times in the morning around 8:30 a.m. and again in the afternoon around 2:30 p.m.
The BC Ferries crew will work hard to minimize delays but these may still occur from time to time during the berth closure.
BC Ferries looks forward to completing the Berth Two project at Swartz Bay Terminal prior to the busy summer schedule.
Is it going to be like Berth 5 at Tsawwassen?
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 22, 2005 18:04:24 GMT -8
Berth 5 at Tsawwassen?
Berth 5 is a double ramp dock at Tsawwassen, unless you mean berth 2 at Tsawwassen. I don't think that dock is a floating dock though, but I haven't seen it with my own eyes yet.
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Post by Mac Write on Dec 22, 2005 18:53:36 GMT -8
Heard about this a few weeks ago. I wonder if putting in a new over-head walk-way for berth 2 will happen (or at least a cosmetic upgrade just to make it look nicer). Will be interesting to see the Queens fighting for berths 3-5. Each ship can have a berth, but if they need to store a V, then there will be trouble. Maybe they will have to stash the spare V's at Tsawwassen.
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Post by Doug on Dec 22, 2005 19:41:41 GMT -8
There is another berth just south of Swartz Bay. For what, I don't know, but I would assume that's where the Seaspan ships dock. Floating seems interesting, and versatile too. But what about stability...these things aren't made of Styrofoam.
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Post by Dane on Dec 22, 2005 21:18:33 GMT -8
Does anyone have a photo, Im curious what they look like?
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Post by QSaanich on Dec 22, 2005 22:11:55 GMT -8
Hmm  I think it is going to look like a Spirit Berth but upgraded i know berth 3 @ SB will not be upgraded because it was built when berth 1 was rebuild. Also they are rebuilding berth 2 at SB because it is looking rusty and old. Also will they rebuild berth 4 at Tsa. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 22, 2005 22:39:18 GMT -8
What I mean by looking like berth 5 is that will it be the headless berth? It is like berth 1 at SWB, no clearance for the top car deck ramp.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 22, 2005 22:40:31 GMT -8
Ohh ok, so you mean instead of using the concrete weights to lift the ramp up, using Hydrolics to lift the ramp up and down.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 22, 2005 22:44:28 GMT -8
Exactly, here in the US we use hydralics below the water to lift our passenger walkways at some of the terminals here. Bremerton, Edmonds, and Kingston have only a pier that can bob up and down like a booie when needed to. (Not float but you can move it up and down) without having something above to hold it in place.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 22, 2005 23:21:07 GMT -8
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Post by Doug on Dec 22, 2005 23:24:03 GMT -8
Those are new ramps. Duke Point and the replaced berth at Tsawwassen have those. I wonder what powers those hydraulic rams...probably electric.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2005 8:03:42 GMT -8
The Brentwood & Mill Bay docks have the same type of ramps.....or at least they look the same.
I've wondered about those ramps with no overhead structure.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 23, 2005 8:23:53 GMT -8
Yup, the overhead structure was just to hold the series of pullies that held the concrete weights on either side of the dock so they could adjust the height of the ramps with the tides. It took me a little while to figure out when I was curious as to why there is a structure there. So I went to the back end of the ferry when it was still in the dock to figure it all out. I wonder how heavy each of those concrete weights are. You can see the weights located in the stucture in this picture:  |
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Post by cascade on Dec 23, 2005 8:24:42 GMT -8
There are not new ramps - but actually work on tidal movement. Where as the main terminals in the past used over methods.
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Post by QSaanich on Dec 23, 2005 10:05:34 GMT -8
Oh ok i gett it now
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Post by QSaanich on Dec 23, 2005 10:08:13 GMT -8
I Could make a drawing what the berth milght look like
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 23, 2005 10:11:57 GMT -8
There are not new ramps - but actually work on tidal movement. Where as the main terminals in the past used over methods. At Port Hardy they have something like this where you have the tide adjust the ramp, my question is how can you keep it stable during heavy seas or even a light breeze? |
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Post by QSaanich on Dec 23, 2005 10:21:19 GMT -8
DAVIDOV The berth at port hardy is fixed to the ground or under water so why would u think it would move in heavy seas.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 23, 2005 10:24:51 GMT -8
I would think that the part of the dock that is floating in the water would still go down a ways to be able to displace enough water for when big heavy semi trucks drive on to it. Sort of like saying the dock has a Displacement Hull, so the typical waves we get normally wouldn't have much of an effect if they were big rolling swells, like there would be on the West Coast.
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Post by cascade on Dec 23, 2005 10:42:05 GMT -8
The tidal movement in and around the Saanich Inlet is around 12 to 14 feet on average. If the ramp / dock system is designed correctly - then it will handle most trucks. Really depends the route - like the MV Mill Bay can't really take a semi - the vessel that is - so the ramps are only designed to handle what the ferry/vessel will carry.
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Post by kylefossett on Dec 23, 2005 14:35:33 GMT -8
during most of this time at swartz bay the sovi will be at deas so the saanich will overnight at berth one
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Post by Doug on Dec 23, 2005 18:38:41 GMT -8
These new "floating" berths are probably built around long shaft type structures that anchor to the sea bed. That way, it can move up and down, but not side to side.
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Post by Engineer on Dec 24, 2005 1:15:04 GMT -8
Does anyone have a photo, Im curious what they look like? Saturna island has a floating dock |
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 25, 2005 13:07:33 GMT -8
Does anyone have a photo, Im curious what they look like? Saturna island has a floating dock Doesn't the news release state that this is a first for BCF? I guess they might be speaking of major terminals only. Also, I seem to remember a picture of the Snug Cove (Bowen Is.) berth, and it looks like a floating dock where the bow's nose fits. I'll edit this if I find that picture. |
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Post by Curtis on Dec 25, 2005 16:16:37 GMT -8
Texada also has a floating dock
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I think it is going to look like a Spirit Berth but upgraded i know berth 3 @ SB will not be upgraded because it was built when berth 1 was rebuild. 
