Super Century and Intermediate Vessel

[YZFNick]

Are these two project names for separate boats? On the newbuild program website they mention that they want to replace the Tsawwassen with is 130 cars.

But the Super Century boat would have a similar number of cars but would possibly replace the Cap on the Bowen Island run.

[Ferryman]

I'm guessing the Super Century Vessel is going to be a vessel like the Skeena Queen, and the Intermediate Vessel is going to be like another Queen of the Islands or something I guess. Am I right?

[Political Incorrectness]

well couldn't they be a mini C class type?

[Balfour]

I'd like to see that for the Jervis Inlet run.

[YZFNick]

How bout something like the Issaquah for the intermediate?

124 cars and 1200 vehicles

This could be used on any intermediate route in the system (route 9, PR to Comox, Jervis Inlet, even Swartz Bay to Fulford Harbour). Adding platform decks would make it ideal for route 9 to ease loading problems. Of course there would be beefed up services more akin to BC Ferries and less like Washington State Ferries

[Koastal Karl]

Yeah I had thought of that design for a new intermediate ferry. That would be perfect, a min c class, like WSF Issaqua class. Perfect!

[NMcKay]

1200 Passengers. and i think a larger version of the Quinsam would work. id like a Capilino version ,that would be cool

[Quinsam]

definatly Quinsam, I love that vessel, my favourite.

Quinsam looks good to run through active pass,I would like to see that, Quinsam swap with mayne queen for 1 or 2 days.

[NMcKay]

nah. just run quinitsa.

[hergfest]

I had read somewhere that the Cap will be on the Earls Cove/Saltery Bay when the new intermediate vessel is built. They need more capacity on the Bowen Island run. I would be interested to hear more details about the "newbuild program", or if it will turn into a farce like the previous program. They were supposed to build three Century Class vessels, but with the propulsion problems on the Skeena they didn't build another. Then there were the Fastcats...

[Balfour]

The Skeena Queen had her engines replaced and now she has propellers. Before she had jets like the Pacificats. A Century class vessel like the Skeena Queen with propellers would do great on the Bowen Island run.

[NMcKay]

if they fix the problems ( i know what they are) then everything would be fine.

[Curtis]

As for the Cap at Saltery Bay she probably will get ramps but thats no problem at Saltery Bay because berth 1 can hold two lanes of traffic but it will be a little bit of a problem at Earls Cove for time wasting. So if the Cap gets ramps they need to get the Berth at Earls Cove modifyed to carry two lanes of traffic and the roads/highways after the terminals need to be for two lanes of traffic for at least 2 Km because at Saltery Bay traffic is held back because of the two lane road at the terminal ends right as you leave thats just my opinion for route 7

[Quinsam]

[td]How bout something like the Issaquah for the intermediate?

124 cars and 1200 vehicles

This could be used on any intermediate route in the system (route 9, PR to Comox, Jervis Inlet, even Swartz Bay to Fulford Harbour). Adding platform decks would make it ideal for route 9 to ease loading problems. Of course there would be beefed up services more akin to BC Ferries and less like Washington State Ferries[/td]

I would like to see that type of ferry on a BCFerries Run, looks good, maybe the Southern Gulf island ferry to replace the Nanaimo.

[hergfest]

And for those wondering, platforms would be useless on a Issaquah class ferry. The deck is configured like a C-Class' bottom deck so you would have zero overheight capacity.

[YZFNick]

So they have the permanent additional underheight ramps on the sides? 4 overheight lanes and then 8 total underheight lanes would make loading very easy for route 9. They could even have traffic turn around inside the vessel and load out the back end if they're facing backwards.

On any of the Gulf Island Runs to they have cars loaded facing the opposite way? And if so do cars turn around on the vessel to exit, or do they turn the boat around?

[Curtis]

welwyn said:

[td]How bout something like the Issaquah for the intermediate?

124 cars and 1200 vehicles

This could be used on any intermediate route in the system (route 9, PR to Comox, Jervis Inlet, even Swartz Bay to Fulford Harbour). Adding platform decks would make it ideal for route 9 to ease loading problems. Of course there would be beefed up services more akin to BC Ferries and less like Washington State Ferries

[/td]

I would like to see that type of ferry on a BCFerries Run, looks good, maybe the Southern Gulf island ferry to replace the Nanaimo.[/quote]
I generally agree with this but not really with putting one on PR-Comox if there was one like that on there there would be major overloads all the time (if you've seen my photos on the Tsawwassen's car deck at Spring Break you know what I mean) So for PR-Comox it's a bad idea

[Koastal Karl]

New Issaqua class ferry would be perfect for the Earls Cove run. Double ended, dont have to turn around. As for the Capilano, if that happened. We want her on the southern gulf islands. No Quinsam to replace the Mayne Queen, we want the Capilano, so she can operate with her sister! I am sure Mr Engineer would like that too! I like the designs of the Cumbie and Cap better than the Quinsam or Skeena Queen!

[Quinsam]

I would like to see the Quinsam in Active pass for a day or 2. I didn't say replace it, I meant them switch routes for 1 or 2 days.

[kylefossett]

how does everybody think that a 124 car ferry would work on route 9. the tsawwassen carries 128 cars and olnly does that run when the nanny is in refit in the off season and she is still full almost every run. and platform decks on her would not ease the loading and unloading. the only thing that would ease the loading and unloading would be a ship for each island but that is not cost effective.

[YZFNick]

The Quinsam and the similar boats (Skeena, Quinitsa, Kahloke etc) are all commuter ferries. They're meant for trips of 20 mins max. For longer routes boats like the Cap and Cumbie are used cause they have better passenger facilities. You'd get a nice trip with the seating at car level, but it would be cramped.

[YZFNick]

Are they better off using an extra V class as relief instead of the Tsawwassen? Once a super C is around, the Saanich or Van could carry 190 cars not including the upper deck.

[Curtis]

They could even use C-Class on the Gulf Islands theres no need to double ramp berths

[Political Incorrectness]

Well for Earls Cove they should have two vessels.

[Curtis]

Maybe that would work although it would cost more