what did the wsf terrorist drill do

[Political Incorrectness]

nothing, people can still breach security on ferries and get away with it doing drills will not help at all to counter you have to think like the people you are against and we (United Mistakes) are not thinking the correct way cause I figured out a hole in security like any other software

[Doug]

Be loyal to your country Davidov.

[Political Incorrectness]

doug if canada was siding with the US what would you think ? would you be loyal to canada if they sided with the US? I would be protesting against it and you complain about the US and how stupid we are and we protest troops in Iraq. come off it doug you would protest too

[Doug]

Yes...we are allied with the US. The fact that they will do anything for oil and the fact that many of their citizens are self-centered doesn't impress me, but the advantages outweight that.

[Koastal Karl]

I just happened to catch it on the american news tonight! What ship was it that they used in the drill??

[Political Incorrectness]

evergreen state they used and had fire coming out of cars on the car deck had passengers injuired but I think that a worst case scenario would be someone getting into an engine room and doing suicide on fully loaded boat that sank the boat cause that would be enviornmental impact plus much more loss of life. this only pluged up one hole but there will allways be a hole no matter what

[cascade]

The main worry - problem on any vessel from sight of land is Fire and the fear of dieing - as the people can't get off - fast enough. This is where the death rate climbs - so it is good to have drills.

As for the though of a "local - home" grown terrorist doing something on a Ferry to make a point - well there is not to much you can do. These vessels in the nature of what they do are very large and open - so very hard to check. CCTV can help after the "fact" - also they can help in location of people that are of "interest" to the authorities.

The problem for people in very general terms on the Pacific Coast - is that they don't live in a major - World city (New York, London, Paris, Rome & Tokay) therefore have never really been under any type of global threat, nor have they been invaded - like in the WW2 - so they just don't know what to do - or even how to handle it - and therefore go well over the top - to calm the local citizen.

[Doug]

What would be the point of bombing a European ferry Cascade over an American? The fact that it is international does not make a difference, they'd more likely use the ship to transport bombs, but why bomb the ship itself?

[Political Incorrectness]

cause it carries many people and fuel so then it causes chaos why do they call them terrorists? they cause terror and we just do stuff to make it look like we are going to be safe but if there are holes and no one realizes them it doesnt matter at all period

[Doug]

I've seen a WSF, smaller, so easier to get an explosion out to the whole ship with higher capacities than European ferries....

[Political Incorrectness]

and plus if you get the engine room your vessel is going to sink fast if you had evacuation chutes at the top of the vessel maybe you could save some lives!

[Ferryman]

I don't know if the marine chutes would work too well if the ferry was sinking. But depending on the size of the hole in the hull, the ferry would probably sink like a rock I think. Because there's lots of windows on the car deck and once the ferry would start to lean, all of the cars would go smashing on top of each other on the sinking end. It's hard to imagine a ferry sinking with how it would sink. So I would probably be hoping those were good life jackets that they would be handing out if I got one in time, and that the water was warm enough that hypothermia wouldn't set in, so it would give you enough time to get to shore or even on some type of lifeboat.

[cascade]

Doug,

In reply to your comment about a European vs American Ferry - well I don't want to temp fate - but so far there has never been a Terrorist bombing of a ferry. I understand that in places like South Asia and parts of India there has been the idea / though of a bomb on board which sank a vessel. As for large scale terrorist bombing of a European Ferry - I personally don't think so. BUT if you talk about a Fully loaded Oil Tanker ect.... then yes there could be something like that.

I can also see the New York Water Taxi - vessels been hit with a bomb - as New York is a major capital city and would make news around the world - also the UN is based there.

A Ferry - as you know - is very open and once a hole is made below the waterline - then there are no compartments to hold back the water and it would sink very quickly. As for a fire on board - say started by a car - then the wide open spaces would be a benefit in fighting the fire and allowing for a safe exit from the vessel for the passengers.

Due to the wide open spaces on a ferry - then you will need a lot of material to create the bomb - as compared to a small pressurized aircraft space.

So therefore you need to stop cars not people - as a person could not really carry that amount of material to cause any real damage.