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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jan 7, 2007 16:32:35 GMT -8
If there is so much damage to the boats on the Bremerton route, then why doesn't the State place a State Patrol officer on board these vessels? Yes it is probably late at night when this damage occurs, but in my opinion, it would be better to pay for security than to allow continous, costly abuse to continue.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jan 7, 2007 16:34:09 GMT -8
The Bremerton Police go onboard during weekends, not sure why not at night?
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Post by zman on Jan 7, 2007 17:36:38 GMT -8
They do have state patrol officers on alot of the busy game night trips. Every once in a while, for three or four days in a row, WSP will have officers on one of the boats. They make their presence known very well. It would seem most practical for the 10:30PM and the 12:50AM trips from Seattle to have officers. These trips are the ones that are most likely to have the drunks onboard. They are the least crowded (except on game nights), but they can get real loud.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 7, 2007 19:43:34 GMT -8
One or two officers simply can't be everywhere at once. It's frustrating to watch boats get trashed like that, and then listen to the Bremertonians complain about how crappy their boats look and why can't they get better ones?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jan 7, 2007 19:45:00 GMT -8
Then why not have one or two crewmen look around the vessel on shifts of 10 minutes each? Is there a problem with that?
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 7, 2007 19:47:49 GMT -8
Yes, there's a problem with that. We aren't cops, we aren't armed, and we don't have any real legal ability to deal with vandals who may be drunk, armed, stupid, or any combination of the three.
Besides, we do patrol. At least, we're supposed to. I have no idea what the Bremrton crews do.
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Post by zman on Jan 8, 2007 9:22:48 GMT -8
I have spent alot of time watching.
During alot of the watches, everybody is doing something. They are cleaning, making rounds, and doing their jobs.
Then there the others...The ones who board people, then disappear for the hour, only to show back up to get people off.
One thing that I do think would be hard, even for law enforcement, would be to keep an eye on everybody all the time. There are a couple of times each year that seem to be the most problematic for the boats. One of these times is the hempfest weekend. Any trip to Bremerton after 7:50PM is a danger zone. They are very crowded and 60% of the crowd is high. 35% of the crowd is drunk, and 5% of the crowd is normal and frustrated.
I think that anybody who has been on these boats would tell you that there is nothing that can be done. WSP is onboard, the crew are constantly roaming around, and there are still things that happen.
It really sucks, but I do not think that there would be any way so solve this...unless, if WSF sent the Evergreen over... ;D
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jan 8, 2007 15:00:22 GMT -8
Actually, I have been on a 10:30p.m. boat. Most are just sleeping or don't care. The danger zone is after 9:00p.m. sailing I believe since that is the last sailing before the deadheads.
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Post by zman on Jan 8, 2007 17:01:10 GMT -8
Most of the 10:30 and 12:50 trips to Bremerton are good. The problems come from the nights when there are home games for the Ms or Seahawks, or when there are huge events in Seattle. Those can be crowded and roudy then.
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Post by zman on Jan 9, 2007 10:37:47 GMT -8
Got a chance to see the Chelan today-she could use some paint on the outside. The weld marks where the 2nd c/d was added are very visible because of rust.  |
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