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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 29, 2006 16:46:12 GMT -8
Today on my day off, I saw something different when heading on the 2:05 to Bainbridge Island, it looked like a WSF, when making the final curve, I could tell it was the Sealth. When I got back to Seattle, she was there at Slip 2 until the 4:20 to Bremerton departed before she went to Eagle Harbor. Pics will come soon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2006 18:55:47 GMT -8
Yes.... I noticed that she is tied up down at Eagle Harbor tonight. Looks like she is tied up on the South side of the Hiyu.
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Post by hergfest on Sept 29, 2006 23:29:58 GMT -8
Maybe they need her back early to take over for the Yakima til they get her fixed?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 30, 2006 15:09:45 GMT -8
first sign of the sealth definitely her new interior to Eagle Harbor I was on the 4:20 Walla Walla to Bremerton but we ended up passing her out in the end.
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 30, 2006 16:34:51 GMT -8
Oh, sweet! New interior and new exterior paint! That old cabin was getting to be a bear to maintain.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Oct 1, 2006 9:17:10 GMT -8
Now that is what the rest of the fleet should look like. I do have to say that these boats are not my favorite, but when they are in this condition they are a good looking vessel.
WSF really needs to petition the Legislature for more money to properly maintain these boats. If they really are the tourist attraction that they have always claimed to be, then the deteriorated condition that most of the boats are in is an embarrasment.
To keep these boats in good working order, constant maintenence is required. I wonder how many years have been taken off these boats....
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 1, 2006 9:40:29 GMT -8
Unfortunately, the maintenance funding (heck, funding in general) is largely at the whims of the taxpayers and legislature. If the money isn't there, then the boats suffer. And paint is one of the first things to go. I mean, if it won't run, it really doesn't matter how good the boat looks. Besides, a rusty, nasty, scrofulous-looking boat is our best proof that we need more money. Have you ever noticed that the boats sound better when they have fresh paint?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Oct 1, 2006 12:12:03 GMT -8
barnacle, if you want to solve the problem in an instant, yet create another problem is by charging passengers going both ways. That may cause some just to drive around but with tolls going into place, that may make some second think. We got to have a ballance somewhere.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 1, 2006 15:16:47 GMT -8
The Sealth will be on the Mukilteo route this week accroding to the WSF service bulletin.
"The 90-vehicle Sealth will replace the 124-vehicle Cathlamet for one day, Wednesday Oct. 4th, while the Cathlamet undergoes it's annual inspection. This results in a reduction of 34 vehicle spaces and motorists are asked to plan accordingly."
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 1, 2006 19:07:41 GMT -8
barnacle, if you want to solve the problem in an instant, yet create another problem is by charging passengers going both ways. That may cause some just to drive around but with tolls going into place, that may make some second think. We got to have a ballance somewhere. An interesting thought, but... (okay, history lesson here) WSF charged in both directions until about 1985. When the new point-of-sale system was put in place, the ticket sales system was also simplified by simply doubling the one-way passenger fares and eliminating the eastbound passenger fares. The only place where one-way fares are still charged are the international run, Mukilteo-Clinton, and Port Townsend-Keystone. These runs are the only ones where drive-arounds are a consideration. The rest of them, it was decided that the potential loss from drive-arounds wasn't worth the cost of having ticket-takers or 50% [edit: should be 50% MORE] ticket sellers on the west side. To illustrate, it takes about 2 1/2 hours to drive from Bainbridge Island Ferry Terminal to Colman Dock in downtown Seattle... and said run was made at 3 AM. The time lost isn't worth the $5 you'd save in fares (let alone the cost of gas!). The real problem? The legislature isn't kicking down the $$ like Parliament does. That and all sorts of new "Homeland Security" (uber alles) regulations mandated by the Shrub, with no additional funding to meet them. Fresh can o' worms, anyone?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 1, 2006 19:31:14 GMT -8
The only place where one-way fares are still charged are the international run, Mukilteo-Clinton, and Port Townsend-Keystone. Passenger fares (as well as bicycle fares) aren't collected at Clinton.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 1, 2006 21:15:26 GMT -8
D'oh! You are correct. It's been a while since I've done the South Whidbey route. Townsend is still each way, right?
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 2, 2006 8:50:46 GMT -8
Back to the Sealth though...it looks as though I will be unable to (lovingly) refer to her as the "Old Canoe" any more...she's looking too good now. I'm anxious to see her cabin make over...they've done great work on all the other Issaquahs. It's nice to have them all spruced up and looking good. (On the inside, anyway, I know the Chelan and Issaquah still need exterior paint.)
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Post by northwesterner on Oct 2, 2006 9:52:58 GMT -8
An interesting thought, but... (okay, history lesson here) WSF charged in both directions until about 1985. When the new point-of-sale system was put in place, the ticket sales system was also simplified by simply doubling the one-way passenger fares and eliminating the eastbound passenger fares. Note that they did install cash registers in the booths at Winslow for walk on passengers ... but of course, since they decided to not charge eastbound, I don't know that those booths and registers were EVER used. Whenever I walked on there, I would marvel at these registers still looking brand new with a fine layer of dust on them. They were removed a few years ago.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 2, 2006 11:20:04 GMT -8
D'oh! You are correct. It's been a while since I've done the South Whidbey route. Townsend is still each way, right? Correct.
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Post by hergfest on Oct 2, 2006 17:31:50 GMT -8
The Sealth will be replacing the Yakima on Sunday 10/8 to get her repaired. Looks like the damage is pretty bad if they haven't gotten her fixed yet, plus if they have to take her out of service. Isn't that a simillar problem to what happened to the Elwha?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Oct 2, 2006 17:39:30 GMT -8
The Elwha blew the drive motor too. She is out until next year at the earliest according to evergreenfleet. GET THE EVERGREEN STATE GOING AGAIN!
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Post by hergfest on Oct 2, 2006 19:25:03 GMT -8
They may have to get the Evergreen State back in service, they are out of backup boats right now. And with the Sealth taking over for the Yakima, they are down (according to WSF figures) 54 car spaces.
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 4, 2006 5:46:12 GMT -8
The Sealth will be replacing the Yakima on Sunday 10/8 to get her repaired. Looks like the damage is pretty bad if they haven't gotten her fixed yet, plus if they have to take her out of service. Isn't that a simillar problem to what happened to the Elwha? No, not even close. If the Yakima did the same thing the Elwha did she would not be running, period. The fact that they are able to keep her going at reduced speed means the repair on the Yakima isn't that serious. I saw the burned out drive motor on the Elwha--and it was just that--burned. It caught fire breifly and melted a lot of the copper wire inside.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 5, 2006 18:15:29 GMT -8
Note that they did install cash registers in the booths at Winslow for walk on passengers ... but of course, since they decided to not charge eastbound, I don't know that those booths and registers were EVER used. Whenever I walked on there, I would marvel at these registers still looking brand new with a fine layer of dust on them. They were removed a few years ago. I can't offer up a solid explanation on that, other than to have the system ready in the event the round-trip toll idea proved to be a dog. Also a possibility that one hand didn't know what the other was doing. ;D
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 5, 2006 18:18:36 GMT -8
OH, and the Evergreen State is perfectly capable of running... however, its young stepsister, the Sealth, can carry about the same number of vehicle spaces (total), at seventeen knots vs. the Evergreen's poky 14... and the Evergreen can accomodate 24-26 "overheight" spaces because of all the retrofits. The Sealth can carry 42 (though not at the same time as getting a full 90 cars aboard).
All that having been said, I dearly miss my Evergreen State. My first permanent job was aboard her, and it was the first ferry I worked as mate.
I'd love to see her back in service as the interisland ferry.
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Post by SS Shasta on Oct 5, 2006 21:39:54 GMT -8
An interesting thought, but... (okay, history lesson here) WSF charged in both directions until about 1985. When the new point-of-sale system was put in place, the ticket sales system was also simplified by simply doubling the one-way passenger fares and eliminating the eastbound passenger fares. Note that they did install cash registers in the booths at Winslow for walk on passengers ... but of course, since they decided to not charge eastbound, I don't know that those booths and registers were EVER used. Whenever I walked on there, I would marvel at these registers still looking brand new with a fine layer of dust on them. They were removed a few years ago. I thought that WSF opens the booths at Winslow and Bremerton to sell walk on tickets for special events such as baseball games, etc. This is to avoid the rush on the Seattle side after the game ends???
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 11, 2006 10:29:22 GMT -8
I thought that WSF opens the booths at Winslow and Bremerton to sell walk on tickets for special events such as baseball games, etc. This is to avoid the rush on the Seattle side after the game ends??? I'm guessing those tickets are probably sold at the vehicle toll booths or special booths are set up for these occasions. The Bremerton terminal was recently renovated, so there probably aren't any booths in the waiting room. The advanced sales are only done for afternoon games. On an unrelated note, there's no galley service on the Sealth until further notice.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Oct 11, 2006 13:56:25 GMT -8
SS, the booths in the waiting room are for Kitsap Transit. The booths for WSF are on the opposite side and I think that their is a booth for the Kitsap Ferry Co. boat on the outer concourse.
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Post by zman on Jul 6, 2007 22:02:29 GMT -8
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