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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 14, 2007 21:37:34 GMT -8
Since it seems like the new ferries are actually going to finally go from the planning stages to the shipyards, I thought I might put in my suggestions for some Chinook names for the new vessels.
I remember reading on another thread a long time ago about the names for the new boats and that they were going to be named after some of the San Juan Islands.
I think the names should either be revived old names of former vessels or Chinook names, not geographic names of places in the State of Washington.
Well, here is my list of Chinook names:
1)HAHLAKL..... (WIDE OR OPEN)
2)KAWAK........ (TO FLY)
3)HYAS........... (LARGE, GREAT)
4)ISKUM......... (TO TAKE OR GET)
5)NIWHA........ (COME, BRING IT HITHER)
6)SKOOKUM... (STRONG)
7)WINAPIE..... (SOON)
Just my short list of names. Any comments, criticisms would be appreciated....
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Post by SS Shasta on Jul 14, 2007 22:41:44 GMT -8
At the risk of being too old fashioned and nostalgic, I would like to see the names of the old Wooden Electrics revived. Since one has already been revived (Elwha), perhaps reviving Quillayute could give the fleet two Q boats, or perhaps Leschi to remember that revered ferry.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 14, 2007 22:46:42 GMT -8
At the risk of being too old fashioned and nostalgic, I would like to see the names of the old Wooden Electrics revived. Since one has already been revived (Elwa), perhaps reviving Quillayute could give the fleet two Q boats, or perhaps Leschi to remember that revered ferry. Leschi isn't an option because the new Seattle fireboat has that name. |
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 15, 2007 0:00:23 GMT -8
I would tend to agree with the nostalgic names. But, you know, in common conversation, those II's are just going to be dropped, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone would claim that there would be all sorts of confusion, and so on. One way or the other, I would support a traditional or Chinook name over a place name. It just keeps with the whole NW heritage thing.... Seattle fire boats: |
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 15, 2007 9:23:34 GMT -8
The II wouldn't be used as they never have been ( and we're actually up to III on some of them.) After all, you don't see a Spokane II, Kitsap II, Elwha II, Chelan II, Nisqually II etc in the fleet today, although those are all the second ferry/vessel on the sound to have that name. (Okay, the first Chelan was a vessel on the other side of the mountains, but still...) As for the names that have been discussed up to this point, there is strong interest in using Chetzemoka and Kulshan again. Although if things keep up with the Steel E's the original Kulshan just may end up back here and in service at Keystone.  There has also been talk of making sure there is a "Q-boat" in the fleet...Making either Quilcene or Quillayute a strong contender, although Quilceda also has a nice ring. Barnacle is actually part of the group that will be choosing the ferry names. Rest assured we won't end up with a Sequim.Oh, and yes, Leschi at this point is off the table due to the new fireboat.  |
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 15, 2007 12:01:23 GMT -8
As for the names that have been discussed up to this point, there is strong interest in using Chetzemoka and Kulshan again. Although if things keep up with the Steel E's the original Kulshan just may end up back here and in service at Keystone. I have always thought the word Kulshan had a nice ring to it. I remember as a kid, and it may have started after riding on it one time, I would just repeat the name over and over just because I liked the sound of the word. (Which either means it has rhythm or I have a mental defect, one or the other.) But strictly from the historical standpoint, perhaps the original Chetzemoka was more significant. The history buff in me tends to lean in that direction. There has also been talk of making sure there is a "Q-boat" in the fleet...Making either Quilcene or Quillayute a strong contender, although Quilceda also has a nice ring. I will admit that Quilceda has a nice ring to it, and that it is the name of a creek and an area in Washington. But as someone who grew up in Western Washington, I would note the following observation: The name Quillayute produces an image of a place where the forest meets the ocean on the Olympic Peninsula. The name Quilcene evokes thoughts of a serene setting on Hood Canal -- and on a personal level, I think there was a Boy Scout camp there. The first thing that comes to mind with the name Quilceda is a huge, glaring lighted sign for a huge casino just north of Marysville on I-5. Just a few random thoughts....... |
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 15, 2007 12:25:58 GMT -8
As for the names that have been discussed up to this point, there is strong interest in using Chetzemoka and Kulshan again. Although if things keep up with the Steel E's the original Kulshan just may end up back here and in service at Keystone. I have always thought the word Kulshan had a nice ring to it. I remember as a kid, and it may have started after riding on it one time, I would just repeat the name over and over just because I liked the sound of the word. (Which either means it has rhythm or I have a mental defect, one or the other.) But strictly from the historical standpoint, perhaps the original Chetzemoka was more significant. The history buff in me tends to lean in that direction. There has also been talk of making sure there is a "Q-boat" in the fleet...Making either Quilcene or Quillayute a strong contender, although Quilceda also has a nice ring. I will admit that Quilceda has a nice ring to it, and that it is the name of a creek and an area in Washington. But as someone who grew up in Western Washington, I would note the following observation: The name Quillayute produces an image of a place where the forest meets the ocean on the Olympic Peninsula. The name Quilcene evokes thoughts of a serene setting on Hood Canal -- and on a personal level, I think there was a Boy Scout camp there. The first thing that comes to mind with the name Quilceda is a huge, glaring lighted sign for a huge casino just north of Marysville on I-5. Just a few random thoughts....... Actually, yes, you're right about the name Quilceda.For the record, Quillyute means "joining together of rivers" and Quilcene means "salt water people." Interestingly, Quilceda means the same thing. Kulshan, (from Koma Kulshan, the name for Mt. Baker) depending on whom you ask means "great white watcher" or "shot at the point." |
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 15, 2007 22:06:15 GMT -8
The name "Leschi" will not be considered, I don't think, because of the confusion of radio chatter on the working frequencies. Too bad; I was campaigning hotly and heavily for it. I'm still aiming for Chetzemoka, Kulshan, Quillayute (or Quilcene) and Enetai. Maybe we'll finally get down to selecting names this winter. |
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Post by hergfest on Jul 15, 2007 22:14:10 GMT -8
The last three were named after cities (Tacoma, Wenatchee, Puyallup). Quilcene sounds a lot better than Quillayute. Is there much of a maritime tradition of renaming old boats that have been retired? I mean, besides naming them "II" or "III".
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 15, 2007 22:58:50 GMT -8
The last three were named after cities (Tacoma, Wenatchee, Puyallup). I checked the WSF webpage today, to learn about the ships' names. While it is true that the above 3 ships' names are also city names, the official connection seems to be that of a native-american word. I suppose it's then just official-coincidence that there are also cities named after these 3 ships too. In fact, there seems to be quite a few multiple "things" named after many of the individual WSF fleet names. Natural geography, cities, and tribes all seem to share some of the individual ship names. |
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Post by FNS on Jul 15, 2007 23:28:44 GMT -8
The name "Leschi" will not be considered, I don't think, because of the confusion of radio chatter on the working frequencies. Too bad; I was campaigning hotly and heavily for it. I'm still aiming for Chetzemoka, Kulshan, Quillayute (or Quilcene) and Enetai. Maybe we'll finally get down to selecting names this winter. Barnacle, great selection. Hopefully, these new ferries will have these names on them. Mukilteo-Clinton is now taken care of with the proposed names of their new ferries. CHETZEMOKA and KULSHAN. And, that this run would continue to have a "C" and a "K". Ink these in! ;D  MV CHETZEMOKA & MV KULSHAN NAMED AFTER THEIR NAMESAKE MUKILTEO-CLINTON PREDECESSORS. FOR THE MUKILTEO-CLINTON RUN. |
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Post by FNS on Jul 16, 2007 20:19:36 GMT -8
With the new Mukilteo ferries taken care of in their proposed names, here are the other two with proposed names (affixed on their sides on these illustrations) for the routes of their projected assignments:  MV QUILCENE FOR THE "CENE-IC" SAN JUANS. THE OLD ONE HAD A GOOD OBSERVATORY. THIS NEW ONE WILL HAVE GOOD ONES FOR THE SCENIC SAN JUANS (OR "CENE-IC" IF YOU WISH).  MV ENETAI NAMED AFTER HER NAMESAKE BREMERTON PREDECESSOR. FOR THE BREMERTON RUN. |
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Post by zman on Jul 17, 2007 9:07:39 GMT -8
Sekiu?
Tahoma?
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 17, 2007 9:47:10 GMT -8
Kulshan, (from Koma Kulshan, the name for Mt. Baker) depending on whom you ask means "great white watcher" or " shot at the point." Sorry about this...... but I just can't help myself........ Something inside just made me want to look for a word that meant "back over the blue line" or some such silliness. Never mind..... ;D |
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 17, 2007 10:17:05 GMT -8
I actually like the suggestions above for the historic names best. But in a bit of brainstorming:
Alki.
Suquamish.
Skykomish. (But only if we want the "Inland people" to have a ferry.)
Samish.
Duwamish.
Reuse Chinook on something that will be actually used by WSF in service.
Winslow. Not a native word, but a notable name in WSF history that is being lost.
Just thinking out loud.
BTW, is Sequim really that terrible?
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Post by NMcKay on Jul 17, 2007 11:43:44 GMT -8
Quillayute gets my vote
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Post by Mike C on Jul 17, 2007 15:30:12 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 17, 2007 15:53:09 GMT -8
I actually like the suggestions above for the historic names best. But in a bit of brainstorming: Alki.Suquamish.Skykomish. (But only if we want the "Inland people" to have a ferry.) Samish.Duwamish.Reuse Chinook on something that will be actually used by WSF in service. Winslow. Not a native word, but a notable name in WSF history that is being lost. Just thinking out loud. BTW, is Sequim really that terrible? Alki and Duwamish have been done as fireboats. Winslow, as you say, is not a native word. There's a tugboat named Chinook running around out there already; I felt re-using it for that reason alone was a bad idea. And yes, 'Sequim' really is that terrible. I don't want to work on a boat that would almost inevitably become known as the Sink Or Sequim. ;D |
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Post by zman on Jul 18, 2007 19:24:41 GMT -8
Whidbey Indianola Jefferson Coleville Townsend Olympus Vancouver Hadlock Ludlow Puget Cascade Rainier Washington Okanogan
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Jul 18, 2007 22:00:28 GMT -8
I still think that they should reuse Kehloken.... but thats my opinion. (I think the name sounds really cool) And I would prefer Quilcene over Quillayute (Quilcenehas a nice ring) And Klahanie is a nice name to, they should reuse that also. But I guess I'm just a huge fan of the K names!
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Post by FNS on Jul 18, 2007 23:22:10 GMT -8
I still think that they should reuse Kehloken.... but thats my opinion. (I think the name sounds really cool) And I would prefer Quilcene over Quillayute ( Quilcenehas a nice ring) And Klahanie is a nice name to, they should reuse that also. But I guess I'm just a huge fan of the K names! Good message on this. My first submission was to name these four after the largest wooden workhorses WSF had until their retirement and eventual "deceased" status. CHETZEMOKA (Clinton), KEHLOKEN (Clinton), KLAHANIE (Bremerton), and VASHON (San Juans). However, we may be seeing revival of four names from four separate predecessor classes of ferries and assignments. CHETZEMOKA and KULSHAN for Clinton, ENETAI for Bremerton, and QUILCENE for the San Juans. It's all up to Barnacle and the naming committee to wisely choose the names. Most likely the above names, or something good. Stay tuned!! ;D |
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 19, 2007 9:20:53 GMT -8
Whidbey Indianola Jefferson Coleville Townsend Olympus Vancouver Hadlock Ludlow Puget Cascade Rainier Washington Okanogan Er...only one of those qualifies under the use of Native American/Chinook jargon rules. As originally set out in the 1950's, the rules were they had to be easy to pronounce and have a known meaning...So far they've stuck to that save for Skagit which the meaning has been lost to and some would argue that Puyallup isn't exactly easy to pronounce. |
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Post by zman on Jul 19, 2007 18:39:59 GMT -8
I think that it would be neat if WSF ventured out a little to include some of the names of local areas/landmarks that have a lot of history behind them. It wold also help the art onboard, as there should be an abundance of old photos to find and display.
I do also agree that there are some great "K" names out there that could be reused (and some "C"s)
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 19, 2007 19:07:17 GMT -8
WSF's should follow the lead of their fine ferried friends to the north and get into wannabe cruise ship name themes like...
Radiance of the Sound*
Majesty of the Sound
Serenity of the Sound
Inspiration of the Sound,
etc., etc.
* Sound, of course, honours the fact that they would all be sailing somewhere on the waters of Puget Sound.
Great names, eh?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 19, 2007 20:55:01 GMT -8
Um.... no. Sorry, I kind of like our uniqueness over BCFS with the variety of names based off Indian origin.
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