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Post by EGfleet on Jun 2, 2007 14:27:29 GMT -8
this is from KIRO:
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 2, 2007 19:00:26 GMT -8
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 2, 2007 19:32:38 GMT -8
Did the wingwall sustain any damage? The media did not really give any footage of that. That crunch looked fairly bad and I was wondering, would a full wooden wingwall do the same?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 2, 2007 19:53:30 GMT -8
Did the wingwall sustain any damage? The media did not really give any footage of that. That crunch looked fairly bad and I was wondering, would a full wooden wingwall do the same? I'm guessing that if there was any damage, it would mainly be to the boards the ferry rubs against. I don't think a wooden wingwall would've done that much damage. At that speed, a wooden wingwall would've definitely been on the losing end.
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Post by northwesterner on Jun 2, 2007 20:11:17 GMT -8
The Issaquah is off Edmonds right now, so they must be swapping it with the Evergreen. Has the Issaquah ever been on the Clinton run before? I don't think so. This would make Mukilteo-Clinton one of only 2 (or possibly 3) routes (Vashon/Fauntleroy/Southworth being one of them) where all 6 of the Issaquah-class ferres have made at least one trip (I'm preety sure the Cathlamet was on the Vashon route early in her career, but I don't know if she ever operated on the Bremerton route (the other 5 vessels have operated on that route at least once)). While the Cathlamet has spent almost all of her career at Mukilteo-Clinton, for how many of those has Kittitas been her dedicated running mate? I seem to remember Kittitas doing a fair bit of wandering in the early/mid 90s, running up in the San Juans and down at Bremerton. I don't remember which boat(s) the Cathlamet was partnered with at that time, but for some reason the 100-car Chelan and the Kitsap come to mind. As far as all six Issaquahs on one route ... how many have operated Edmonds-Kingston? What about the San Juans (the question really is, have the Issaquah and Cathlamet ever made Island appearances)? Also, the Evergreen State operating Mukilteo-Clinton... sheesh. When was the last time an Evergreen served there? When was the last time a non-Issaquah of any kind served there?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 2, 2007 20:21:07 GMT -8
Also, the Evergreen State operating Mukilteo-Clinton... sheesh. When was the last time an Evergreen served there? When was the last time a non-Issaquah of any kind served there? According to "The Ferry Story. The Evergreen Fleet In Profile.", the Tillikum was on the Mukilteo route when there was a major vessel reassignment due to the Rhoodendron and the Evergreen State went down on the same day. Four or 5 ferries got reassigned that night and one ferry (one of the jumbos) was rushed back into service (with one engine down and a 1/2 completed paint job). This was sometime after WSF was ordered to remove the modified barges being used on the Lofall-South Point route and use regular ferries. As for the last time a non-Issaquah served there, the last time I know of was in October/November of either 1999 or 2000 (the Hiyu and a steel-electric were being used in place of the Kittitas).
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Post by DENelson83 on Jun 3, 2007 1:04:05 GMT -8
Well, apparently the MV Can't Land It strikes again.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 3, 2007 6:03:33 GMT -8
I know the Kittitas was "getting around" for a while in the late 1980s-early 1990s while filling is as a relief vessel--mostly whenever it was that the Kitsap was getting her upper 'tween decks installed. I rode the Kittitas in the San Juans in 1989 or so.
I would suspect that the Kitsap has made an appearance at Kingston-Edmonds, but the primary Issaquah for that route (1982-1990) was the Chelan. She ran alongside the Yakima, which was there for years, until late 1997 when the Walla Walla came up north.
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Post by Emory Lindgard on Jun 3, 2007 8:05:00 GMT -8
When I moved to Whidbey Island in 2000, one of the Issaquah Ferry's broke down. They brought the Evergreen State in for about a week. I took a picture of it during morning rush hour. I commented how my antennas it had. It looked like a spy ship in the fog. I enjoyed talking to my friends, it was a rather cozy seating arrangement. ;D
Emory
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 3, 2007 16:29:09 GMT -8
Unless they change the running positions at Vashon, it looks like the Evergreen State will be running the #3 position (normally occupied by the Issaquah). The Sealth would've been a better choice for the #3 since it has the same speed as the Issaquah (and thus less likely to throw the schedule out of whack like what happened last year when the Evergreen State was replacing the Kittitas for one day).
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Post by zman on Jun 4, 2007 13:04:44 GMT -8
I was also kinda thinking that it would make sense for the Sealth to be in the #3 posistion because she is the largest vessel on the route right now.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 4, 2007 13:08:57 GMT -8
They did indeed place the Sealth in the #3 position.
Right now the Tillikum is the only vessel on the route with galley service (assuming there's no galley service on the Evergreen State).
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 5, 2007 7:28:09 GMT -8
Service bulletin from yesterday: Many routes? Only 2 were really downsized (Fauntleroy/Vashon/Southworth and Pt. Townsend/Keystone) and I don't think replacing the Evergreen State with the Nisqually in the San Juans really qualifies as downsizing since a steel electric (usually the Illahee) normally operates the inter-island route. Losing a vessel on the Pt. Townsend route (which runs on a 2-boat schedule this time of year) is considered "slightly downsizing"?
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 5, 2007 8:47:25 GMT -8
Well, in terms of revenue generated, yes. Seriously, though, the downsizing in the San Juans is intermittent, as the Nisqually is out of service this morning and there is no inter-island service at all, save for what can be crammed onto the other boats.
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Post by chokai on Jun 5, 2007 8:49:55 GMT -8
New article from the Herald. Nothing earthshattering but a few new random tidbits. www.heraldnet.com/stories/07/06/05/100loc_b1ferry001.cfmAnyone know if there is anything that Dakota can to do speed up the work on the Kittitas or is that pretty much a done deal? Even with the Crashlamet back end of this week or next there is still essentially no "spare" boat other than pulling a SE from PT/Keystone.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 5, 2007 8:52:15 GMT -8
I don't think there's a whole lot that can be done to accelerate the work on the Kittitas, unfortunately. Dakota Creek is already pretty much the fastest and best shop around.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 5, 2007 8:55:06 GMT -8
I don't think there's a whole lot that can be done to accelerate the work on the Kittitas, unfortunately. Dakota Creek is already pretty much the fastest and best shop around. When is she scheduled to leave drydock? The original schedule was to have her back a few days after the summer schedule started, but that was before the Sealth went down.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 5, 2007 8:57:04 GMT -8
I honestly don't know when she's scheduled to leave; I think her yard period is now extending into July sometime.
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Post by FNS on Jun 5, 2007 12:52:19 GMT -8
They did indeed place the Sealth in the #3 position. Right now the Tillikum is the only vessel on the route with galley service (assuming there's no galley service on the Evergreen State). Sounds like the Mukilteo run from 1970 - 1977. Only the RHODODENDRON was the food ferry. The third vessel (OLYMPIC 1970 - 1972, VASHON 1973 - 1977) had their galley closed. No food service on the KULSHAN (unless the crew opted to share their snacks from their lounge ;D).
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Post by Emory Lindgard on Jun 5, 2007 15:19:06 GMT -8
Interesting about food, I rode the Issaquah Sunday to Mukiteo came back on Kitsap. Neither ferry had the cheap 25 cent water. No little lever on the soda pop machine for water. Oh well I can not play Jack Benny all of the time.
The interior of the Issaquah was like a Calico Cat. There were a mixture of 6 red seats in the food area. I think it was blue and tan at one time. Otherwise I like the Indian artwork and the pictures of the Lumber Industry back in late 1800s.
Emory....
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 7, 2007 12:04:02 GMT -8
I honestly don't know when she's scheduled to leave; I think her yard period is now extending into July sometime. Here's what her yard (drydock) period was according to the IFB: 05/08/2007 to 06/29/2007 She didn't get replaced by the Kitsap until near or on Memorial Day weekend, so she'll probably be out of service until at least mid-July.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 7, 2007 21:36:59 GMT -8
The last scorecard I saw showed early-mid July. Here's hoping they can accelerate that a smidge.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 8, 2007 11:54:10 GMT -8
Looks like Pt. Townsend-Keystone could be back to 2 boats tomorrow: I didn't see any service bulletin update for Pt. Townsend-Keystone, but I'm assuming the Nisqually will be back down there tomorrow. From vessel watch:
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Post by BreannaF on Jun 8, 2007 13:16:34 GMT -8
Friday, June 08, 2007 1:54PM Port Townsend /Keystone - Late 30 Min Due to heavy traffic and only one vessel on this route, service is delayed 30 minutes or more. This will affect the remainder of this evening sailings. Updates will occur as conditions change. We will return to a 2-boat schedule tomorrow morning, Saturday, June 9th.
It looks like someone finally said "enough is enough" and decided to keep the tourists happy for the upcoming Summer weekend. It does seem to cut a lot of capacity away from Vashon, though.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 8, 2007 15:04:38 GMT -8
Friday, June 08, 2007 1:54PM Port Townsend /Keystone - Late 30 Min Due to heavy traffic and only one vessel on this route, service is delayed 30 minutes or more. This will affect the remainder of this evening sailings. Updates will occur as conditions change. We will return to a 2-boat schedule tomorrow morning, Saturday, June 9th.
It looks like someone finally said "enough is enough" and decided to keep the tourists happy for the upcoming Summer weekend. It does seem to cut a lot of capacity away from Vashon, though. No, it had nothing to do with that. It's that the boats became available and as many players as possible are being returned to service. No capacity is being cut away from Vashon; the Klahowya's back.
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