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Post by Retrovision on Jul 16, 2007 2:39:54 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 24, 2007 8:44:15 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 24, 2007 16:05:28 GMT -8
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Post by Scott on Jul 24, 2007 18:20:16 GMT -8
I just drove over that spot last night! Yes, an obvious risk of acquiring oil. But if we're going to use it so much, I guess it's a risk we have to take. And I think we in British Columbia get away with many fewer risks associated with transporting oil than many other places in the world due to there only being two refineries in the whole province and a "moratorium" on offshore oil. We get the benefits with limited risks .. compared to places like Alberta, Texas, the Middle East, etc.
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 24, 2007 23:57:35 GMT -8
I just drove over that spot last night! Yes, an obvious risk of acquiring oil. But if we're going to use it so much, I guess it's a risk we have to take. And I think we in British Columbia get away with many fewer risks associated with transporting oil than many other places in the world due to there only being two refineries in the whole province and a "moratorium" on offshore oil. We get the benefits with limited risks .. compared to places like Alberta, Texas, the Middle East, etc. For the province itself, granted, but to me it seems like a self-centred notion to think of the impacts on the source of the resource we enjoy so freely as being inconsequential when compared to its path through my own backyard to the point that my morals won't allow me such a luxury mindset; but that's me
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Post by Scott on Jul 25, 2007 23:02:18 GMT -8
Graham, I don't understand what you're saying:) What impacts are inconsequential? I'm not saying there aren't serious risks with obtaining oil, just pointing out that we in BC are quite priviledged to not experience the same levels of risk that other places do.
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 26, 2007 0:16:33 GMT -8
Graham, I don't understand what you're saying:) What impacts are inconsequential? I'm not saying there aren't serious risks with obtaining oil, just pointing out that we in BC are quite priviledged to not experience the same levels of risk that other places do. I mean to say that my backyard includes the source of the oil and its entire path, I mean that I'm not so self-centred (And I'm not singling anyone out, so nothing implied by that ) as to only be concerned about my own province - too classist, etc., for my morals - and not have equal concern for all impacts on my planet's people. I am a member of the human race first and all others after; an oil spill - or any similar negative effects brought on by acquiring oil - in the Middle East is the same to me as one in Burnaby if I'm the reason for the oil being needed.
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Post by Scott on Jul 26, 2007 21:41:32 GMT -8
So you're saying the world is your "backyard" - that's understandable and I pretty much agree with you. We in British Columbia are pretty isolated from the risks... we hear of oil spills and refinery fires and "oil politics" and for the most part it seems like it is worlds away.
How about if we in Western Canada were self-sustainable in oil (I don't know if we are or not)... and we relatively safely extract it, transport it, refine it, and sell it all within our own region. Should we feel less guilty about spills and accidents in foreign countries with less-stringent rules.. but who are supplying Europe and Asia? I'm not saying I feel that way, but I'm wondering what you and others think about it... sort of a moral question.
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 27, 2007 0:06:02 GMT -8
We are not self-sutainable in oil right now and wouldn't be without massive investment, let alone the exponentially heightened risk if we venture into prospects offshore of our province in the northwest beyond the shore, imagine the devastation, think about the risk so many times more than we had of a contractor striking oil on the start of the Barnet Hwy. in Burnaby.
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Post by Retrovision on Jul 27, 2007 11:33:49 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 20, 2007 17:09:54 GMT -8
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