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Post by WettCoast on Jan 21, 2017 17:05:36 GMT -8
Very hard to tell what ship is away off in the background but IF that is a shot of Route 2 vessels, the vessel in the foreground I would 'guess' might be either the Queen
of Nanaimo or the Queen of New Westminster. The overexposed shot of the Langdale Queen is neat in an abstract sort of way. The vessel in the shot along with the Langdale Queen, if we agree this is Route 2, had o be the Queen of Sidney. As one of the two 'originals' (and I may be wrong here), I don't believe the Queen of Tsawwassen operated om route 2.
In the first photo, I can state with some authority that the photo was taken near Swartz Bay because the mountain in the background is most definitely Mt. Constitution on Orcas Island. So, what V and/or B vessels were operating on Route 1 at that time? And could that be Queen of the Islands in the background? The first photos shows one of the Victoria version (V class) of the Seven Sisters, as built. The funnel very clearly says that this is not a 'B' version of the Seven Sisters. In the second photo we see the LQ & either the Sidney or the Tsawwassen. It is likely the Tsawwassen as it was a 'regular' on route 2 for many years (3 B's + QoT) until the Stena Danica arrived in 1974. The Queen of the Islands started life as the original route 9 ship, following the same route pretty much as the Queen of Nanaimo does today (for a few more months). As such you would not expect to see it close to Swartz Bay. On the other hand, we do know that for a time the QotI worked the Fulford Harbour run. But it would have followed the same route as the Skeena Queen does today. |
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 21, 2017 18:50:44 GMT -8
In the first photo, I can state with some authority that the photo was taken near Swartz Bay because the mountain in the background is most definitely Mt. Constitution on Orcas Island. So, what V and/or B vessels were operating on Route 1 at that time? And could that be Queen of the Islands in the background? The first photos shows one of the Victoria version (V class) of the Seven Sisters, as built. The funnel very clearly says that this is not a 'B' version of the Seven Sisters. In the second photo we see the LQ & either the Sidney or the Tsawwassen. It is likely the Tsawwassen as it was a 'regular' on route 2 for many years (3 B's + QoT) until the Stena Danica arrived in 1974. The Queen of the Islands started life as the original route 9 ship, following the same route pretty much as the Queen of Nanaimo does today (for a few more months). As such you would not expect to see it close to Swartz Bay. On the other hand, we do know that for a time the QotI worked the Fulford Harbour run. But it would have followed the same route as the Skeena Queen does today. The strength of this forum has many times been exhibited by the depth of knowledge our learned members share with all of us. Very astute observation on photo # 1 by 'Kahloke', and an intrepid depth of knowledge/research as to the vessels that operated on route 2. There is now a 'vacancy' on my research team!  |
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Post by Mirrlees on Jan 21, 2017 20:38:24 GMT -8
In the first photo, with the lack of pipes visible over the rim of the funnel, has to be either the Saanich or Esquimalt. The second is definitely the Tsawwassen.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 21, 2017 23:14:01 GMT -8
In the first photo, with the lack of pipes visible over the rim of the funnel, has to be either the Saanich or Esquimalt. The second is definitely the Tsawwassen. As far as I can tell, only the Victoria had exhaust ducts that extended up above the funnel (as did the Sidney twins). I have posted photos of a brand new City of Vancouver and ducts are not visible. Perhaps the Vancouver was modified to match the Victoria sometime after it went into service. The flags visible (just barely) in both shots appear to be the Maple Leaf that became official in February 1965. That helps a little to date these photos. |
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Post by FNS on Jan 22, 2017 3:45:47 GMT -8
Here are two slides I'm not entirely sure about: ![]()  And this one. I know the Ghost Ship in the back is the Langdale Queen. Pity it's so over-exposed.  The first photo shows most likely either the QUEEN OF ESQUIMALT or QUEEN OF SAANICH. It looks like the face of the mechanical structure below the funnel was curved (not flat like what the QUEEN OF VICTORIA and QUEEN OF VANCOUVER had then). The second photo shows either the QUEEN OF SIDNEY or QUEEN OF TSAWWASSEN. The SIDNEY had a clean 45-degree angle sheet of steel that acted as transition between the roof tops of the upper structure and lower structure on the Sun Deck. The TSAWWASSEN had a ragged one. A higher resolution scan of this photo would help (crop if necessary). |
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Post by EGfleet on Jan 22, 2017 10:15:08 GMT -8
Okay, this may or may not help...did a tight scan and lightened up the photo as much as I could to help reveal some details.  |
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Jan 22, 2017 15:01:48 GMT -8
One of my Mennonite historian friends recently posted this picture on his facebook feed:  It was taken on a choir tour that they did back in the 60's. A Does anyone have an idea of which ferry it is? Looks to me like there's no carpet in here either? Anyone know anything about that? |
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Post by Kahn_C on Jan 22, 2017 16:56:59 GMT -8
Looks like the forward lounge of the Sidney or Tsawwassen (given the ceiling height).
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 23, 2017 6:09:21 GMT -8
One of my Mennonite historian friends recently posted this picture on his facebook feed: It was taken on a choir tour that they did back in the 60's. A Does anyone have an idea of which ferry it is? Looks to me like there's no carpet in here either? Anyone know anything about that? As 'Kahn_C' noted, the early vessels did not have carpets. There were times during rough sea crossings where banks of couches would slide across the deck. The highly polished tile floors saw to that.  Most likely the photo is taken looking toward the bow in the forward passenger lounge. I'm surprised to see that there's a ship's wheel framed clock located in this area. I don't recall clocks of any kind being located in the forward lounges, much less those that could easily be 'removed' as collectors' items. Could these clocks have been installed in the Sidney and Tsawwassen before being discontinued when the sisters started rolling out of VMD and BDD? For many years the deck-head in the centre of the forward lounge above the windows was adorned with a large photo of Her Majesty. As time went on, I believe that photo was moved to the back wall of the forward lounge. |
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Post by FNS on Jan 23, 2017 16:33:31 GMT -8
Looks like the forward lounge of the Sidney or Tsawwassen (given the ceiling height). I think you call ceilings "overheads" aboard ships. |
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Post by Ferryman on Jan 23, 2017 16:50:15 GMT -8
Looks like the forward lounge of the Sidney or Tsawwassen (given the ceiling height). I think you call ceilings "overheads" aboard ships. Negative. Ceilings are known as deckheads on ships |
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Post by Neil on Jan 23, 2017 19:34:47 GMT -8
I think you call ceilings "overheads" aboard ships. Negative. Ceilings are known as deckheads on ships Hmmh... 'deckhead' must be a modern term. I consulted my copy of 'A Sailor's Word Book', written by Admiral W.H. Smyth in 1867. It's over 700 pages long, with an average of 20 nautical terms per page, for a total of about 14,000. Neither 'overhead' or 'deckhead' is in there. 'Ceiling' is, but it's described as " The lining or planks on the inside of a ship's frame: these are placed on the flat of the floor, and carried up to the hold-beams." Language evolves, on land or at sea. I doubt that any chef's assistants on a cruise ship would be referred to as a "jack nasty-face", as Admiral Smyth said they were onboard in 1867. Guess we have to defer to Ferryman on this one. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 23, 2017 22:15:50 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 24, 2017 14:43:47 GMT -8
Ah, the English language eh? Yes, it changes over time, sometimes new words/meanings fly in the face of traditional parlance. With regard for whatever material/surface is located above one's head on a water-craft, the magic word is "Deck-head". It is as the old definition reads, it's the plank under the deck above you. Returning to the discussion about the clock framed by a ship's wheel, does anyone remember seeing more than one of these on any of the early-day vessels? |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 8, 2018 23:15:36 GMT -8
This is another instalment of 'Name that Boat' ...
Also, date this photo as closely as you can, and what was the occasion? The location should be fairly obvious ...
You could say that this photo marked a sort of 'new beginning' for BC Ferries.
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Post by Nick on Dec 9, 2018 8:39:16 GMT -8
This is another instalment of 'Name that Boat' ...
Also, date this photo as closely as you can, and what was the occasion? The location should be fairly obvious ...
You could say that this photo marked a sort of 'new beginning' for BC Ferries.
Most certainly the Queen of Esquimalt. I'm guessing by the fact that the funnel has yet to be lifted that this was taken in 1969 on delivery from her stretching operation. |
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Post by paulvanb on Dec 9, 2018 8:41:30 GMT -8
This is another instalment of 'Name that Boat' ...
Also, date this photo as closely as you can, and what was the occasion? The location should be fairly obvious ...
You could say that this photo marked a sort of 'new beginning' for BC Ferries.
I would say after opening the photo full size that it is the Queen of Esquimalt after being stretched. No idea to the date. Funny how she is going forward and her exhaust the same. |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 9, 2018 19:56:01 GMT -8
This is another instalment of 'Name that Boat' ... Most certainly the Queen of Esquimalt. I'm guessing by the fact that the funnel has yet to be lifted that this was taken in 1969 on delivery from her stretching operation. It is indeed the Esquimalt. You & paulvanb are both correct. I have not got an exact date for the photo, but it was during June, 1969. This shows the Esquimalt fresh out of the stretching operation. She was just six years old at the time & was, of course, the first of the 'Seven Sisters' to be stretched. As some will know, she did not get the heightened funnel and other 'semi-streamlining' appearance changes, initially. The second vessel to be stretched, the Queen of Victoria, was the first to get those, though the Esquimalt was subsequently modified. I will be putting up some clippings from the 'Mr DOT Collection' on the Queen of Esquimalt thread that will shed some more light on what this first stretching involved. |
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 19, 2019 9:58:15 GMT -8
Okay, here's a fun one. Dated September 1977 on the slide. And a close-up. This may have been a real vessel or a mock-up of one, I'm not sure. I thought at first the old North Vancouver #5, but it is too narrow and by the look of this thing, it's out of the water which the Seven Seas never was to my knowledge.
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Post by Starsteward on Jun 19, 2019 11:05:32 GMT -8
Okay, here's a fun one. Dated September 1977 on the slide. And a close-up. This may have been a real vessel or a mock-up of one, I'm not sure. I thought at first the old North Vancouver #5, but it is too narrow and by the look of this thing, it's out of the water which the Seven Seas never was to my knowledge.
That is the S.S. Essington I believe. A great restaurant back in the day, unfortunately the place went bankrupt and the whole area was re-developed. |
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Post by westernflyer on Jun 20, 2019 20:27:16 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Jun 21, 2019 9:29:54 GMT -8
They turned her into a dry-land restaurant which operated into the early '80's. I believe it was shut down and taken away before Expo '86 took place. |
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 27, 2019 5:45:10 GMT -8
Another random slide in a lot. Not only an ID the ferry, but the place as well. Dated November 1987.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2019 6:23:22 GMT -8
Another random slide in a lot. Not only an ID the ferry, but the place as well. Dated November 1987.
I had thought perhaps Q-Cove on Quadra Island, looking west to industrial north Campbell River. But I wasn't sure. |
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Post by Neil on Oct 27, 2019 9:16:35 GMT -8
Not sure about that date... the Department of Highways ferries were absorbed into BC Ferries in 1985, and that vessel, which is either the Nimpkish, Nicola, or Albert J. Savoie, still has its yellow stacks.
Doesn't look like Q Cove to me.
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