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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 31, 2007 9:32:51 GMT -8
I can remember being on the ferry on hot summer days with no seats available almost anywhere. People sitting on the floor and outside decks of the ferries. And when the ferries approached Active Pass having difficulty even finding space at the rail. One particular trip had 6 buses plus the usual one or two PCL ones (the six were Silver Eagles for those who know about such things - full of gleaming chrome everywhere and a great burgundy paint scheme). I loved seeing all the buses load. It was a stretched but not lifted ferry and still had the restaurant upstairs. We were slow being served in the restaurant and I remember getting permission from my parents to leave the table and go to the railing as long as I took my younger brother and didn't let go of his hand ;D.
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 31, 2007 13:39:29 GMT -8
Thank you for that, Curtis - I find that short transition period of the lifted Vs quite intriquing, myself.
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 31, 2007 13:49:56 GMT -8
Thanks Curtis... I had to ask... I probably would never have noticed any other way... it's interesting to see how they did that, and that is only one of the more minor design changes they made to those ships...
that nose overhang certainly didn't do anything to the aesthetic appeal of the ships though... they look better without it.
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Post by Curtis on Aug 31, 2007 17:29:27 GMT -8
Say, Didn't Wet Coast Kid or somebody post an article from a 1980s Dolphin Magazine showing how they removed it.
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Post by kylefossett on Aug 31, 2007 18:08:00 GMT -8
That has got to be the most people I've seen on the Outer Deck of a BC Ferry. i can remember many saturdays in the summers in the mid 80's to early 90's with crowds on the decks like that.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 31, 2007 21:42:52 GMT -8
Say, Didn't Wet Coast Kid or somebody post an article from a 1980s Dolphin Magazine showing how they removed it. It was Airchime that posted the article right here
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 31, 2007 22:18:15 GMT -8
That has got to be the most people I've seen on the Outer Deck of a BC Ferry. i can remember many saturdays in the summers in the mid 80's to early 90's with crowds on the decks like that.
Seeing the crowds in these photos kind of makes me wonder how people used to view the old V-class, with their narrow stairs and various other crudities, you might say... did they always have bare ceilings with piping and wiring running all over? I remember, we were all making jokes about the Esquimalt last weekend, but I wonder how it looks through the eyes of the unitiated, who are just travelling on the ferries and aren't crazy with pulling apart the inner workings like we are.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Sept 1, 2007 5:40:19 GMT -8
We were certainly all "wowed" to travel on a ferry. The open wiring and pipes always reminded me of being on a navy ship or something. The restaurant on the upper level had ceiling tiles installed so it seemed a little fancier part of the ship. I can't remember what was on the ceiling of the cafeteria. The forward lounge had that part at the very front with a higher ceiling. I hated when they put the blackout curtains on the front windows at night. I always wished they would switch to red light at the front section so you could still see out.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 5, 2007 6:16:55 GMT -8
Thanks Jim. It has been awhile since we have seen any more Queen of Victoria pictures and those are spectacular!
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Post by Curtis on Sept 5, 2007 7:01:25 GMT -8
Great Photo of the First of the 7 Sisters. I'd love to see more pictures of the Vic in the future.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Sept 5, 2007 19:41:59 GMT -8
Excellent photo! Its great to see any V Class in expo colours, and this one is a real treat! Thanks for posting it!!!
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Post by Curtis on Sept 7, 2007 7:00:51 GMT -8
Great Shot, I like your current sig, The Fleet moving to the Expo Colours. Very Nice!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 8, 2007 10:46:47 GMT -8
re the Bowen/Mayne Queen photo: - I always find it fascinating how the "stern end" of the car deck looks shorter than the bow-end, depending on the angle that the photo was taken from.
The changed perspectives that come from changing angles is pretty neat to observe.
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Post by jcachristian2000 on Sept 8, 2007 11:07:31 GMT -8
AKA Queen of Cowichan: What I find interesting is sometimes at Swartz Bay the Bowen or Mayne Queen would back out of her dock turn around and dock again to allow a large truck and trailer to back on to the bow.
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Post by Mike C on Sept 8, 2007 12:13:39 GMT -8
Alright. I may have posted some of this before, but I'll post it again anyway. All of these pictures are courtesy of British Columbia magazine.[/i] BOWEN QUEEN - I'm gonna need a little help re. the location for this one (and is that a Pender Queen I see in the bottom-right corner...?) QUEEN OF OAK BAY/SURREY - Leaving Horseshoe Bay QUEEN OF THE NORTH - Underway in the Inside Passage
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Post by vic guy on Sept 8, 2007 12:50:32 GMT -8
The Bowen Queen picture is at Fulford Harbour on Saltspring.
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Post by vic guy on Sept 8, 2007 12:53:16 GMT -8
.....and it's the Vesuvius or Saltspring Queen in the spare berth.
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Post by Nick on Sept 8, 2007 16:46:29 GMT -8
That photo of the QotN is awesome. She really was an amazing ship. I wonder when it was taken? I know it was sometime between the late 80's (what year did the expo symbol disappear from the stacks?) and 2003, but that is a fairly large range.
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Post by Balfour on Sept 9, 2007 21:23:02 GMT -8
Jim, every time you keep posting pics of the Vic, I am thinking "Why did they not take care of her like the other V's" Thanks for the pics. it is not that they did not take care of her like they would have liked too. it is the other issues she had, the freighter accident, the fire on the cardeck that weakened the steal decking. the queen of victoria had many issues with her. The Queen of Victoria was never the same after the freighter hit her. The Bannerman book really emphasizes the fact that if something weird happened on a ferry, it was usually the Vic.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Sept 9, 2007 21:27:30 GMT -8
Yes, very excellent photos of Miss Victoria. Every time I see those photos I feel so sad. I wish they had kept her.
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Post by Mill Bay on Sept 10, 2007 8:36:28 GMT -8
The Queen of Victoria was never the same after the freighter hit her. The Bannerman book really emphasizes the fact that if something weird happened on a ferry, it was usually the Vic. The freighter collision happened before they even stretched her and lifter her, so whatever the final wierdness was that finally led to her demise, it must have occured long after that. The Bannerman book also mentioned that a lot of captains considered the Victoria to be the only real Queen in the fleet because all the other ships still carried masculine names even with the 'queen' prefix. Approved and Ordered March 9, 2000 ORDER IN COUNCIL 308Ministry Responsible: LABOUR Statutory Authority: Ferry Corporation Approval to sell the MV Queen of Victoria. www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/oic/2000/resume04.htm
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 10, 2007 17:09:42 GMT -8
The freighter collision happened before they even stretched her and lifter her, so whatever the final wierdness was that finally led to her demise, it must have occured long after that. This is NOT correct. The Vic was stretched in 1970, about one year prior to the accident. The lifting, of course, took place 10 years later. The following is from a magazine report on the collision of August 1971.
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 10, 2007 17:27:47 GMT -8
As we can see, the freighter tore through the centre-left (forward) of the 84' added section; an easy way I find of seeing the added section when looking at the Vs and Bs today is to look for the solarium above, covered to become an indoor lounge in the case of the lifted Vs and the Queen of Burnaby after her time on the route between Victoria and Seattle.
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Post by Fenklebaum on Sept 10, 2007 21:06:03 GMT -8
Liferaft drill aboard MV Queen of Victoria, Deas Dock, 1998. Fenk, who was a lousy cameraman at 10 years of age
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Post by hergfest on Sept 12, 2007 20:48:57 GMT -8
Never knew they did the "Queen of Surrey" lighted up sign on her, just like the Queen of the North sign.
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