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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 30, 2010 20:34:27 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 31, 2010 20:38:52 GMT -8
Picture #7 is the winner.
Well done to all the nominees.
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Post by stvfishy on Apr 1, 2010 6:37:08 GMT -8
 not sure I agree with that - 9/55 votes to chose... might there be a need for a runoff??
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 1, 2010 7:16:28 GMT -8
No. #7 was clearly the winner with 9 votes. Had it been a tie for 1st place, then there would need to be a runoff.
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Post by stvfishy on Apr 1, 2010 9:58:22 GMT -8
Ya I know Wa wa wa - the ones I voted for didn't win... SNIFF  :-/BUT--->there were 2with7 votes & 2with6 - what if they were very similiar - splitting votes...(has happened in previous months) Without trying to make too much of a big deal of this. I am only saying - this smells a bit offside. The one selected definitely did not have a majority. hmmmmm does this need further consideration/statistical analysis?? |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Apr 1, 2010 17:05:10 GMT -8
I am only saying - this smells a bit offside. The one selected definitely did not have a majority. hmmmmm does this need further consideration/statistical analysis?? Members were given up to three votes for this ballot. This means that voters had the opportunity to choose their top three submissions. Historically, it is rare to have a single photo take the majority of the vote. If you do not believe me, please look through our past votes. I am sorry that you feel this vote "...smells a bit offside". However, with the consistent lack of participation from our membership in these votes, we are not prepared to hold vote after vote to figure out which photo is the majority favorite. Regarding participation, 21 of 303 members voted. In other words, 14.42% of our members voted for April's Flagship. IMHO, that is quite sad... |
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Post by whidbeyislandguy on Apr 2, 2010 7:01:30 GMT -8
I am only saying - this smells a bit offside. The one selected definitely did not have a majority. hmmmmm does this need further consideration/statistical analysis?? Members were given up to three votes for this ballot. This means that voters had the opportunity to choose their top three submissions. Historically, it is rare to have a single photo take the majority of the vote. If you do not believe me, please look through our past votes. I am sorry that you feel this vote "...smells a bit offside". However, with the consistent lack of participation from our membership in these votes, we are not prepared to hold vote after vote to figure out which photo is the majority favorite. Regarding participation, 21 of 303 members voted. In other words, 14.42% of our members voted for April's Flagship. IMHO, that is quite sad... Reminds me of things often said in the states, "if more people vote then the more votes you have, if you don't like the numbers then help make sure more people vote next time.. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 2, 2010 7:05:24 GMT -8
Regarding participation, 21 of 303 members voted. In other words, 14.42% of our members voted for April's Flagship. IMHO, that is quite sad... Remember though, that many of those 303 members have either A) don't post and just lurk, B) Joined, participated, then moved on, B) Joined mostly just for one particular event (ie: to comment about the new Super C's, or to ask advice about a ferry trip). There are only about 30-50 regulars here, so I would think that we get pretty good participation in the votes. |
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 2, 2010 7:32:11 GMT -8
And if you remove the one-time visitors (or those who haven't been here in, say, a year) the participation ratio goes up considerably.
I admit that I would have liked to see a run-off as well, but (1) I don't make the rules on the voting, and (2) if the banner is to be for April, it needs to be up before the fifteenth of the month.
The easiest way to "true up" the voting would be to reduce the number of votes available to each member.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Apr 2, 2010 11:08:33 GMT -8
Remember though, that many of those 303 members have either A) don't post and just lurk, B) Joined, participated, then moved on, B) Joined mostly just for one particular event (ie: to comment about the new Super C's, or to ask advice about a ferry trip). You are right, Luke. But we do consistently receive votes from members who are not regular contributors. The easiest way to "true up" the voting would be to reduce the number of votes available to each member. We originally had one vote per member. It was decided to change this as it was all too frequently ending in ties, causing more run-off votes, adding more work for staff and delaying the selection of the flagship. However, with these multiple choice votes, it does not require you to pick the maximum number of votes allotted to you. If there is only one photo that you prefer, pick one and submit your vote. Multiple choice votes were chosen by staff to help eliminate ties and allow members more votes to those who have more than one favorite submission. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 3, 2010 13:28:06 GMT -8
Ya I know Wa wa wa - the ones I voted for didn't win... SNIFF :-/BUT--->there were 2with7 votes & 2with6 - what if they were very similiar - splitting votes...(has happened in previous months) Without trying to make too much of a big deal of this. I am only saying - this smells a bit offside. The one selected definitely did not have a majority. hmmmmm does this need further consideration/statistical analysis?? Hey, glad to hear that your sense of smell is intact. We moved to the method of "choose up to 3" in the vote, to better allow for the consensus #1 to be chosen. Before, when you could only vote for 1 picture, it was tough, because sometimes there were 2 or 3 really good pictures that you had to choose between. And if some people went one-way, and others went another-way, we'd get split votes, or maybe most people would ignore a good photo......because everyone made the tough choice the same-way. So by allowing you to choose up to 3 pictures, we figured that that would give a much clearer indication of which picture or pictures the majority thinks is the best. After all, if there are 2 really good one, then the majority of the people will be able to pick both.......and that will show in the results. And hopefully a winner is still obvious........but not as a run-away winner. We want the votes to reflect that there are some really great photos each month, not just 1 run-away winner. And run-offs are just more time-consuming to do, and are contrary to the hobby-aspect of moderating this forum. It's all for fun....  |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 3, 2010 20:46:20 GMT -8
Here's my thinking on the April 'vote'.
Out of our membership 21 persons voted. Of those 21, nine people selected the eventual winner as one of their choices. That means that 43% of those that bothered to vote liked that photo. By democratic standards these days, especially in Canada, 43% looks pretty good. Keep in mind that our current Prime Minister had the support of just 37% of Canadians that bothered to vote at our last election in 2008.
The photo chosen is one that I submitted, though it is not my photo. It was taken by my brother David who was present at the launch of the Queen of Coquitlam. My role was of cropping and editing the photo for submission in last month's 'contest'.
In most months I find the decision of the voters in this header contest is one that I am in agreement with. Often there are several suitable photos any one of which would look just fine at the top of our page. Occasionally I find myself saying "So they liked that picture - whatever?" The point is that sometimes my (or your) point of view will not prevail.
I do note that the number of votes at 21 is about as low as it has been any time in the last year. In most months the number is ~25, though it has been as high as 36. The trend appears to be slightly downward - that is that fewer members are taking part each month.
Now lets all go forward and have fun with the May 'contest', and other contests to come. And while we are at it lets give our thanks to our moderators who put a lot of work into this and other aspects of our WCFF. Thank You all!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Apr 4, 2010 11:39:42 GMT -8
The window for voting is too short for some to vote. In my opinion there should be a longer voting period. If you go away overnight or for a few days and don't log into the forum, you come back and find the vote over. Also some of us view/post from blackberry that compresses the data so you mostly see the type and not pics. Photos take too long to download and eat into your data package very quickly. So it sometimes has to wait until you log into a laptop.
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not sure I agree with that - 9/55 votes to chose... might there be a need for a runoff??
