Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 26, 2009 20:41:42 GMT -8
Out of Curiosity i been wondering about tsawwassen terminals berth 1 and 2. i under stand that vehicles can drive off. But do they use those berths to load or do they use another to put vehicles on? Berth 2 is used pretty much every day by the Queen of Nanaimo as it is the assigned berth for vessels running to the Gulf Islands. Occasionally, the Nanaimo does use Berth 3 or 4, but that is rarely, so they do use Berth 2 on a daily basis: in fact it is practically brand new, rebuilt a few years ago specifically to serve route 9 vessels. Berth 1 was used during the summer last year by the Bowen Queen when she was serving as the auxiliary vessel on Route 9. She did in fact load vehicles at berth 1 and she currently uses the same berth as her regular tie-up berth, so the berth is likely still used to load her as well. Guess I need to take a trip to find out for sure. Your second satellite photo actually appears a little out of date, as it has the Queen of Tsawwassen in berth 2, but it also has berth 2 as it was before the rebuild, with what appears to be one of the old overhead ramp elevators, as well as the old sky-walk for loading foot passengers. |
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Post by hullnumbers on Jul 27, 2009 8:48:22 GMT -8
Sorry, i have not updated the google earth on the main computer and i saved the first one resently and the second a year ago for another project. i didn't know they changed the walkway, i need to look more carefully next time or get glasses (hahaha)
Thanks for the confirmation.
Since you know can you point the route drivers would take to get to berths one and two. i been looking at the terminal and i don't see how vehicles can get around the passangers drop off area.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Jul 27, 2009 8:57:13 GMT -8
as for berth 1, yes the bowen still loads and ties up there while she is serving route 9A in the summer. On occasion when she is sailing to a few of the gulf islands and not just long harbour, she will load in berth 3. This is usually on her second trip of the day.
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Post by gordon on Jul 27, 2009 9:53:23 GMT -8
Tsawwassen Berth #5
Can cars loading the upper car deck use the ramp right at the end of the ramp structure or is that just for unloading?
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Post by Balfour on Jul 27, 2009 9:56:27 GMT -8
Tsawwassen Berth #5 Can cars loading the upper car deck use the ramp right at the end of the ramp structure or is that just for unloading? Cars load and unload from the upper car deck on that structure for berth 5. |
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Post by ferrytraveller on Jul 27, 2009 10:22:49 GMT -8
hull numbers, the vehicles drive around the north side of the passenger ticket building towards berths 1 and 2. The drive just like they were exiting the terminal from berths 3 and 4 but then hang a right at the berth they are to load in.
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Post by hullnumbers on Jul 27, 2009 11:01:08 GMT -8
I sort of understand thanks. Can you show me from a picture, marking the the route i do better with pictures. Sorry for bothering you for this. : |
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Post by Nickfro on Jul 27, 2009 12:52:42 GMT -8
Does BCFS have any plans to improve the upper deck access to Berth 3 at Tsawwassen, making it more efficient?
What is the exact configuration that they use for loading and unloading Berths 3 & 4? Do they have a 2 lane configuration that is utilized? If so, what is it for both loading and offloading? This is one of those things that I haven't really paid attention to when out at that terminal.
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 27, 2009 13:22:40 GMT -8
I sort of understand thanks. Can you show me from a picture, marking the the route i do better with pictures. Sorry for bothering you for this. : | I think this is what you are looking for:  |
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Post by hullnumbers on Jul 27, 2009 14:23:07 GMT -8
Cool, thanks
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 24, 2009 12:04:05 GMT -8
Re Tsawwassen Berth#4 project: Here's the ferry company's Request-For-Proposals for this project. I've edited this by removing the legalese about proposal fees & dates and have bolded the items relevant for our forum discussion. Source: www.bcferries.com/business_opportunities/ |
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Post by gordon on Sept 24, 2009 13:07:10 GMT -8
I thought that Berth #4 was upgraded or the Coastals.
Would some of the rebuilding along the shoreline (rock armoring & buttressing be related to scouring problems caused by the Coastals?
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Post by Nick on Sept 24, 2009 20:23:45 GMT -8
Berths 3 and 5 were upgraded for Coastal use. 4 was used primarily by the Vancouver, and now the QoNW.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 14:07:25 GMT -8
from the Mr. 7-Sisters collection: - Note the passenger walk-way in this Tsawwassen photo )  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 16:23:09 GMT -8
 how things have changed at Tsawwassen Terminal circa Summer 1970 |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 16:24:06 GMT -8
A Christmas wish return to the pricing structure in the photo , considering many of the same ships are still on the route. However Ticket Agent wages in the summer of 70 were 2.16 per hour... so I guess all is relative |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 16:25:46 GMT -8
The Manager in the middle is the signature on the following photo, taken at the Gulf Island Ticket Booth 1970  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 16:39:46 GMT -8
 Berth 2 Tsawwassen Terminal circa 1970, test kitchen etc on right. |
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 15, 2009 17:39:07 GMT -8
Berth 2 Tsawwassen Terminal circa 1970, test kitchen etc on right. Was the test kitchen building the first foot passenger terminal building? I seem to recall seeing a photo or two of Tsawwassen Terminal in its original form with that building being the only significant structure, even before what is now the maintenance building. |
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 15, 2009 18:00:34 GMT -8
I have a few near historical photos of Tsawwassen. These were taken in 2000, so they're not exactly old, but it is before the Tsawwassen Quay was constructed.... Ah the giant tv screens, I remember those for however briefly they were around. And that modern building where the Tsawwassen Quay is now, I have distinct memories of that building inside and out... How North American of us: I don't know how young that building was before we tore it down for something more modern. Mind you, the Tsawwassen Quay is an improvement and will certainly stand for much longer, but I still can't help but see it as totally symbolic of our culture and treatment of edifices and shacks alike. |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 15, 2009 20:35:02 GMT -8
I was still quite young when the old terminal building was destroyed, so all I remember of it is that it had two floors, that the stairs were near the inland side of the building, and that I liked the pizza. I also liked it more than the current structure. I think they should have just expanded it instead of tearing it down and replacing it. It was a very nice building, and you could actually see the ferries coming to the terminal through the windows. I don't know who decided to tear it down, but I don't like their idea. I also wish the quay had two stories.
If anyone has any photos of it, even blurry ones, i'd be very happy to see them
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Post by Mill Bay on Nov 16, 2009 9:39:14 GMT -8
I don't know who decided to tear it down, but I don't like their idea. I also wish the quay had two stories. They decided to tear it down because they knew they'd be able to make more money off of renting out retail space inside the current structure, as well as clearing out all the riff-raff of those pesky vendors who had had retails booths set up there but weren't paying rent on the space. You guys are all well ahead of me, though, because I don't even remember that building. The only thing I remember was the playgrounds that used to be located throughout the parking areas, with those big ball pits filled with plastic balls in them. I spent four hours one night bouncing around in those things while waiting for the Alberni to return on a route 30 round trip. She ran by herself back then, and it was direct to Departure Bay, so if you missed one sailing, it was a four-hour wait. We missed the 8pm one summer night and had to wait for a midnight sailing. I dod remember that the Alberni did have dogwood carpet back then, though. |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 16, 2009 15:28:37 GMT -8
They decided to tear it down because they knew they'd be able to make more money off of renting out retail space inside the current structure, as well as clearing out all the riff-raff of those pesky vendors who had had retails booths set up there but weren't paying rent on the space. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and more economical (and more sane) of them to have just expanded the old building on the north-ish side, though? Does anybody have a floor-plan of that old terminal building, or can anyone draw some up for me? I only have vague memories, and I want to play around with them [the plans] a bit. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 18, 2009 20:27:33 GMT -8
This is a photo I took Monday night from my WestJet flight into Victoria as we flew past Tsawwassen at about 20 000 feet!  |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 19, 2009 18:27:32 GMT -8
This is a photo I took Monday night from my WestJet flight into Victoria as we flew past Tsawwassen at about 20 000 feet! I've always wondered: What's the point of that little wavebreak just south of the terminal?? Any big waves would just go right over it, or make their way around it. So.... why is it there? |
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