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Post by Ferryman on Apr 3, 2011 17:13:58 GMT -8
Just wanted to post an update for Tsawwassen terminal from today. Berth 4 more or less looks complete now finally. The barge and crane, as well as other barges have disappeared, leaving the dock looking complete. The next step would be trials with the ships to see how well they fit in the dock. This hasn't been done to my knowledge, especially since the leads and wingwalls don't have any scuffs from any rubbing strakes on them yet. I have a photo taken on my Blackberry to upload, so excuse the quality  |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 3, 2011 21:27:04 GMT -8
I was at Tsawwassen today and noticed too that it looked like it was pretty much done. Are ships actually going to load from berth 4 now??
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Post by FerryDude2012 on Apr 3, 2011 21:51:24 GMT -8
I was also at Tsawwassen today (I did a round trip on the Queen of New Westminster) and I was told that yes, ships will use Berth 4 now. As a matter of fact, the Queen of New Westminster was the first ship to dock in Berth 4 after completion. She used Berth 4 Friday after her 2pm sailing to unload traffic. It's definately much wider than the average ramp.
I also hear the next Tsawwassen project is having some work done on Berth 5, making it look similar to Berth 4 (as far as ramps and foot passenger waiting area), not too sure about the Berth itself.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 4, 2011 8:22:22 GMT -8
What sailing of the New West were you on??? I was on the 2pm from Swartz Bay. Came back on the 6pm Celebration from Tsawwassen. What Foot Passenger Lounge will they use to hold people when they use berth 4?? I would assume 3 as it's closer??
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Post by FerryDude2012 on Apr 4, 2011 16:58:59 GMT -8
I was on the 4pm out of Tsawwassen, came back on the 6pm from Swartz Bay. I may have seen you in Tsawwassen getting off the New West. Also, if you were outside on the 6pm sailing on the CC, you may have seen me on Deck 4 outside on the QNW.
I believe they would most likely use Berth 5, just to avoid confusion between the Duke Point foot passengers and the Swartz Bay foot passengers.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 4, 2011 18:07:20 GMT -8
I believe they would most likely use Berth 5, just to avoid confusion between the Duke Point foot passengers and the Swartz Bay foot passengers. I don't see why they'd use the berth 5 waiting area, it's too far of a walk for mobility-impaired persons to get from one to the other, and just a real pain the [  ] for everyone else to walk that distance. I'd assume they'd use the berth 3 waiting room. |
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Post by FerryDude2012 on Apr 4, 2011 18:34:27 GMT -8
I believe they would most likely use Berth 5, just to avoid confusion between the Duke Point foot passengers and the Swartz Bay foot passengers. I don't see why they'd use the berth 5 waiting area, it's too far of a walk for mobility-impaired persons to get from one to the other, and just a real pain the [ ] for everyone else to walk that distance. I'd assume they'd use the berth 3 waiting room. I agree with you and Karl, I just say that because there was an incident in the summer, where the Coastal Inspiration was in Berth 3 for the 7:45am sailing, and the 'New West at 8:00am in Berth 4. For some reason, both Swartz Bay and Duke Point foot passengers were in Berth 3, causing delays and a lot of confusion for the passengers (despite the many announcements explaining which ship is going where) I believe if there is no Route 30 sailing near the Route 1 sailing time (eg. 9:00am or the 4pm sailing) then yes, they would use the Berth 3 waiting room. In all other cases, I believe they use Berth 5. |
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 4, 2011 21:36:21 GMT -8
Do we see BCF potentially building a separate new berth 4 waiting room any time in the next 40 year to facilitate this issue?
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 4, 2011 21:44:15 GMT -8
Do we see BCF potentially building a separate new berth 4 waiting room any time in the next 40 year to facilitate this issue? Probably not. This is not really any different than airport departure lounges which handle a number of different aircraft boarding 'Gates'. They may need to just better 'educate'/inform patrons of which ship at which berth is going where they want to go. |
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 2, 2011 9:41:13 GMT -8
I noticed on SiiTech that last night's 2100 sailing of the SOVI and today's 1100 sailing of the SOBC used Tsawwassen's berth 4 instead of berth 5. Does anyone know if some work is being done on #5?....or maybe they're just getting used to using berth 4 since it can now be used for all ships.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 2, 2011 11:01:01 GMT -8
I noticed on SiiTech that last night's 2100 sailing of the SOVI and today's 1100 sailing of the SOBC used Tsawwassen's berth 4 instead of berth 5. Does anyone know if some work is being done on #5?....or maybe they're just getting used to using berth 4 since it can now be used for all ships. There was a minor capital project tendered for berth-5, a few months ago. See some posts earlier in this thread for details. |
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 2, 2011 11:25:36 GMT -8
I noticed on SiiTech that last night's 2100 sailing of the SOVI and today's 1100 sailing of the SOBC used Tsawwassen's berth 4 instead of berth 5. Does anyone know if some work is being done on #5?....or maybe they're just getting used to using berth 4 since it can now be used for all ships. There was a minor capital project tendered for berth-5, a few months ago. See some posts earlier in this thread for details. Yes, I knew that, but I was wondering if it was THAT project taking place now, or some other work being done. Tsawwassen will be quite short of berths for the next couple weeks while the CR is there. Berth 1 is occupied by the QoNW as she is not being used during the CR's stint at Tsawwassen. The SOBC will also be tied up for much of the time when she's not being used as #2 vessel. If berth 5 is undergoing its capital project already that leaves 3 out of 5 berths unable to be used for much of the time. EDIT: the SOVI is using berth 5 for her 1300 sailing so I guess berth 5 is not out of service yet. |
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Post by Ferryman on May 2, 2011 14:08:03 GMT -8
As far as I know, they're still trying to test Berth 4 out. Berth 5 requires some downtime soon, since it has been operational all day everyday probably ever since the Spirits came into service. They've also been trying to paint the dock structures lately. Berth 3 was just repainted, so I'd assume Berth 5 is next. I also believe that the Renaissance is testing the new berth out as well today.
At Swartz Bay, Berth 5 demolition begins tomorrow morning at 07:00
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Post by lmtengs on May 2, 2011 14:26:02 GMT -8
As far as I know, they're still trying to test Berth 4 out. Berth 5 requires some downtime soon, since it has been operational all day everyday probably ever since the Spirits came into service. They've also been trying to paint the dock structures lately. Berth 3 was just repainted, so I'd assume Berth 5 is next. I also believe that the Renaissance is testing the new berth out as well today. At Swartz Bay, Berth 5 demolition begins tomorrow morning at 07:00 They couldn't still be testing out berth 4. Yesterday, we boarded via berth 4 on the 9am on the SoVI out of TSA, and when I came back, the C.Renny came into berth 4. So it's in full service now. |
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 17, 2011 19:56:32 GMT -8
Just thought I'd post a pic of the SOBC loading at berth 4 showing the new gate that had to be installed on the Spirits to accomodate the overhead walkway. Also, a terminal attendant was telling me that there is an issue with the upper ramp apron fingers at berth 4 clearing the upper car deck visors on the Spirits. He said the visors might be removed and replaced with gates.  |
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Post by WettCoast on May 18, 2011 22:03:49 GMT -8
Queen of Vancouver @ Berth 1, Tsawwassen Terminal - 26 August 1973  photo © JST - Fujichrome 73-14-10 - VueScan - from Flickr
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Post by lmtengs on May 19, 2011 14:22:32 GMT -8
Queen of Vancouver @ Berth 1, Tsawwassen Terminal - 26 August 1973  photo © JST - Fujichrome 73-14-10 - VueScan - from Flickr Is that photo reversed? If not, why is the skywalk on the left side instead of the right? |
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Post by Ferryman on May 19, 2011 14:38:12 GMT -8
Queen of Vancouver @ Berth 1, Tsawwassen Terminal - 26 August 1973 photo © JST - Fujichrome 73-14-10 - VueScan - from Flickr Is that photo reversed? If not, why is the skywalk on the left side instead of the right? That's because Berth 1 and 2 used to be numbered in reverse. You're actually looking at what is Berth 2 today. Also, before Tsawwassen had renovations done to the overhead foot passenger walkways to waiting lounges in 2004/5-ish, the walk way used to cross over Berth 2, to a little lounge in between Berth 1 and 2. The building is still there today, but serves a different purpose. JST would have actually taken that photo on the old walkway that crossed over Berth 2 to the waiting lounge. |
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Post by lmtengs on May 19, 2011 15:04:34 GMT -8
Is that photo reversed? If not, why is the skywalk on the left side instead of the right? That's because Berth 1 and 2 used to be numbered in reverse. You're actually looking at what is Berth 2 today. Also, before Tsawwassen had renovations done to the overhead foot passenger walkways to waiting lounges in 2004/5-ish, the walk way used to cross over Berth 2, to a little lounge in between Berth 1 and 2. The building is still there today, but serves a different purpose. JST would have actually taken that photo on the old walkway that crossed over Berth 2 to the waiting lounge. And they never replaced the walkway to berth 1. Why not? It seems like it's rarely used. Is it only used when ships are layed up at TSA? |
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Post by WettCoast on May 19, 2011 18:56:31 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 20, 2011 18:16:15 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 8, 2011 11:22:28 GMT -8
Some pics of Tsawwassen from July 6th:  The causeway. Notice the Queen of Nanaimo at far left, the Coastal Celebration at mid-left and the Spirit of Vancouver Island at Right.  The berth 5 ramp, all covered up for construction.  Berth 4 tunnel.  Trying to get an inside view of the control tower.  A workboat.  One of the ramps, all covered up, being sandblasted.  The other ramp, laying on the jetty.  The berth is rampless!  A wider shot. So it looks like berth 5 is getting some major work done on it. |
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 25, 2011 8:05:58 GMT -8
Tsawwassen on July 21st, with a focus on some passing dolphins:  Berth 1 dolphin. Is this thing even safe??  Taken from the Nanny.  The damage and the culprit. Taken from the Bowen Queen. |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Aug 6, 2011 12:24:29 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 15, 2011 18:48:22 GMT -8
Tsawwassen in early July 2011. The very empty berth 5.  Coming into the new berth-4 on the SOVI  The yellow-walkway between berths 3 &4   |
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