This popped into my mail box from another ferry group today... BC Ferries interested in new Saaremaa ferry
According to the Estonian newspaper Saarte Håål BC Ferries is interested in buying the Saaremaa Shipping Company's ferry under construction, HIIUMAA. Representatives from BC Ferries apparently have visited Saaremaa and made several trial trips with the sistership SAAREMAA. They visited the Fiskerstrand Shipyard in Norway as well. Still according to the newspaper, a BC Ferries representative said that the vessel is planned to replace a similar vessel, if the deal comes through and will be a step on the way to modernising the BC Ferry Fleet.
Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 16, 2010 9:26:59 GMT -8
Here's a new thread to discuss and watch what might be an ongoing story with possibly a new BC Ferry as the conclusion: - thanks to forum-member EG-Fleet for getting this story started here. -------------------
The Estonian newspaper Saarte Hääl reports that British Columbia Ferry Services Inc (BC Ferries) has shown interest in buying Saaremaa Shipping Company’s newbuilding Hiiumaa, which is under construction for delivery in the end of March 2011. Representatives for BC Ferries have visited Saaremaa and travelled with the sister vessel Saaremaa on the Kuivastu–Virtsu-route for studying the ferry’s qualities in windy weather. Thereafter the delegation travels to Norway to look at the newbuilding at Fiskerstrand Verft.
A representative for BC Ferries said to Saarte Hääl that the Hiiumaa would be suitable to replace another ferry of similar type. If the newbuilding is sold, it will sail directly for Canada after delivery.
“If BC Ferries are seriously interested in buying our vessel we will of course take this possibility into consideration”, managing director Tõnis Rihvik of Saaremaa Shipping Company says to Shipgaz.
And here's the picture of the sister-ship Saaremaa, from vesseltracker.com
Just thought that this is a surprising development. At first I thought they had found a replacement for the Norad. It is a surprise announcement, not only that they are looking for a new vessel all of the sudden (where's the money for that to come from?) but also the type of vessel.
Interestingly enough: this is the style of ship that I have thought for a long time that BCFerries should move to for replacing intermediate ships, because it is capable of open strait crossings, having raised bulwarks and a semi enclosed car deck.
Post by blackshadow on Nov 16, 2010 10:01:56 GMT -8
This is some what old news as BCFS has been looking at this vessel since August for replacement of the Queen of Burnaby, but I am wasn't allow to post it unable some one did. BCFS doesn't want to spent 15-30 million into Burnaby for only have it next four years max. If you have been following Burnaby issues you know why.
From what I heard there are five other vessels BCFS is looking and the HuIiimaa is only new one. It seems the run the Huiimaa was built for, has fallen rough times as all shipping companys and there isn't the demand for this vessel at this time. I have been hearing Saaremaa Shipping Company is planning place order for another vessel if BCFS buys this one and BCFS will have the option to purchase this other vessel. If BCFS isn't able to drop route 9 and this where they plan the second one will go.
I think BCFS is making big mistake as it very heavy ship and too slow for replace the Burnaby. Thus it will consume large amount of fuel similar to Chilliwack does. The only reason BCFS is look at this vessel is they would be able to drop the crew size to 12. There fore would make up for amount of fuel it will consume. I think it would make better Chilliwack replacement but this only thoughts.
There was team of five BCFS employees there last week and they are all so looking at the other five vessels. Thus it is a done deal at this point. Also there are talks with FSG and China shipyard for new ships as well.
Interesting development. It would be a fitting vessel to be named Northern Discovery IMO. She could also easily handle Route 17 in the Winter so the Burnaby can go and replace the Nanaimo...or better yet, she could actually replace the Nanaimo. People might be annoyed about her having an open deck during a storm though.
I'd love to see this happen, and not just because the Chilliwack would be gone like some people are probably thinking. (you know who you are)
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The three ferries (Muhumaa, Saaremaa & Hiiumaa) will have icebreaking capabilities, and they will have a capacity of approx. 150 cars and 600 passengers.
I don't see how this ship can work on Route 40 due to the open car deck, small passenger deck and lack of outside decks. After all, Route 40 is primarily a tourist route, so why would you replace the existing ferry (Chilliwack) with something that is no greater (and quite possibly smaller) in overall passenger space on such a long distance route?
Their specs about 150 cars and 600 passengers is pretty significant, and leads me to believe that the images I've seen of the boat make it look smaller than it actually is. Those specs are greater than the Island Sky's capacities.
I see a ship like this working well on Routes 5, 7, 9 and 17, with the most year round route potential for this ferry being Route 5 or 7.
Last Edit: Nov 16, 2010 11:31:59 GMT -8 by Nickfro
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Effekt. 5320 kW.
Total HP 5320 kW (metric equivalent to horsepower)
Service Speed: 15 knots.
Passenger capy. 600
She is more likely a replacement for the Queen of Chilliwack rather than the Nortern Adventure, but she is a rather heavy ship, since ferries in that part of the Baltic have to sail through icy waters, resulting in a heavier steel hull.
A similar sized ferry could be built here or even at Todd in Seattle, but would be far more expensive.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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in many respects this acquisition is similar to BC ferries purchasing the Basto several decades ago, and I wondered about that, and look how its perservered, maybe it will be remodeled to serve as Wack 11. mrdot.
At 98 metres long and 18 wide, there's no way this vessel could carry close to 150 cars, unless it has two vehicle decks, which it doesn't appear to have. The Queen of Chilliwack is about 16 metres longer and has two platform vehicle lanes, and is still only listed as carrying 115- and even that's optimistic for the 'wack. This boat might carry about 90, or 100, tops.
Unless they're going to drastically drop capacity on routes 9 or 17, this boat would only be suitable for route 5, or to replace the Bowen Queen on summer route 9A service, or maybe on route 40, assuming the passenger space is adequate.