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Post by Chippewa on Feb 16, 2013 8:46:12 GMT -8
EG,Glad to hear about the lean!
This is a e-mail i sent Mr Moseley about two weeks ago.Does any one know if they did paint the green stripe on her ?
Dear Mr. Moseley, Back about two years ago i wrote to you asking when WSF was going to paint the green traditional band around the bottom on of the Chetzemoka exhaust funnel and as well on it's KDT's sisters in the future.While at Vigor for the last 2-3 weeks did they paint it on the exhaust funnel? I saw a work order to have it done under the paint section when it was in drydock , but was it done ?
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 16, 2013 14:48:42 GMT -8
EG,Glad to hear about the lean! This is a e-mail i sent Mr Moseley about two weeks ago.Does any one know if they did paint the green stripe on her ? Dear Mr. Moseley, Back about two years ago i wrote to you asking when WSF was going to paint the green traditional band around the bottom on of the Chetzemoka exhaust funnel and as well on it's KDT's sisters in the future.While at Vigor for the last 2-3 weeks did they paint it on the exhaust funnel? I saw a work order to have it done under the paint section when it was in drydock , but was it done? Last I heard, there was ZERO intent to do so. Something about not wanting to emphasize that the stack was off-center or some such. |
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Post by chokai on Feb 16, 2013 15:18:18 GMT -8
Hmm.. Won't they now just list the other way when actually fully loaded? ;-)
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 16, 2013 16:53:06 GMT -8
Hmm.. Won't they now just list the other way when actually fully loaded? ;-) That was my first thought! |
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 16, 2013 16:54:01 GMT -8
I also hate the comments in the KOMO News article about that... A lot of uneducated people!
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Post by SolDuc on Feb 16, 2013 17:58:30 GMT -8
I also hate the comments in the KOMO News article about that... A lot of uneducated people! Oh yes, and all complaining about $300,000 spend on what they call a "little issue" Bring back them printed fleet guides with the little history! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 18:08:30 GMT -8
I also hate the comments in the KOMO News article about that... A lot of uneducated people! Oh yes, and all complaining about $300,000 spend on what they call a "little issue" Bring back them printed fleet guides with the little history! It is a little dumb because it would make them lean when they are fully loaded with cars and passengers which could cause them to capsize. |
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 16, 2013 19:25:54 GMT -8
Oh yes, and all complaining about $300,000 spend on what they call a "little issue" Bring back them printed fleet guides with the little history! It is a little dumb because it would make them lean when they are fully loaded with cars and passengers which could cause them to cape-size. First off, it's "capsize" Not "cape-size" Secondly, that will never happen. Not in a million years. A full ferry-load of semi trucks won't even cause a noticeable increase in draft. |
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Post by Chippewa on Feb 16, 2013 21:45:58 GMT -8
Barnacle, If that's the case, why not build a fake stack ( after fixing the lean ) on the otherside and they could use it for a storage unit. What's a few more $$$. Please correct me if i'am wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that the Princess Marguerite have a fake stack behind the forward one?? EG i bet knows.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Feb 17, 2013 1:07:47 GMT -8
Barnacle, If that's the case, why not build a fake stack ( after fixing the lean ) on the otherside and they could use it for a storage unit. What's a few more $$$. Please correct me if i'am wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that the Princess Marguerite have a fake stack behind the forward one?? EG i bet knows. I can't speak for the Princess Marguerite, but I know it's a well established fact that Titanic (read that as the entire Olympic-class for the White Star Line) was originally designed with three functional funnels, yet to even things out and make the ship appear more grandiose, they added a fourth one as a dummy into the designs while the the Olympic itself was halfway built. The aft funnel was a dummy largely used for looks, as well as 1st and 2nd class galley ventilation. I think it's something the DOT should at least look into, from a ventilation/appearances standpoint. |
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Post by FNS on Feb 17, 2013 3:31:51 GMT -8
Barnacle, If that's the case, why not build a fake stack ( after fixing the lean ) on the otherside and they could use it for a storage unit. What's a few more $$$. Please correct me if i'am wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that the Princess Marguerite have a fake stack behind the forward one?? EG i bet knows. I can't speak for the Princess Marguerite, but I know it's a well established fact that Titanic (read that as the entire Olympic-class for the White Star Line) was originally designed with three functional funnels, yet to even things out and make the ship appear more grandiose, they added a fourth one as a dummy into the designs while the the Olympic itself was halfway built. The aft funnel was a dummy largely used for looks, as well as 1st and 2nd class galley ventilation. I think it's something the DOT should at least look into, from a ventilation/appearances standpoint. I was thinking of that when the ISLAND HOME was being built. It would improve her appearance as well as her western sisters. Include dummy exhaust pipes as well. Yes, the TEV PRINCESS MARGUERITE II's aft stack was almost a dummy for appearance. It was functional in that it had the main set of three whistles. They sounded a higher pitch than the single one on the forward stack. Same aboard the TEV PRINCESS PATRICIA II. When passing my Puget Sound beach place in fog, the MAGGIE would sound her whistle as per regulations. Sometimes the main set would be sounded, and sometimes the forward single one. The single one really echoed around my community very well! Almost like a pipe organ in a huge stone cathedral. There were many times when the MAGGIE would begin sounding her whistle(s) before entering the fog bank. It was a true science of study of the speed of sound. It would take several seconds after seeing white steam from the whistle(s) for the sound to reach shore. Most of the ferries had a whistle light that would go on when theirs were blasting away. These were sadly removed after the 1970s. I watched a whistle light go on from a passing Jumbo on the Edmonds to Port Townsend run at night in 1979 (after the sinking of the Hood Canal Bridge) and counted the seconds to hear the sound. The Steel Electrics had these whistle lights in their wooden cabin days. Good to know that something is being done to correct the list of the CHETZY and her KDT sisters. |
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 18, 2013 13:27:53 GMT -8
I can't speak for the Princess Marguerite, but I know it's a well established fact that Titanic (read that as the entire Olympic-class for the White Star Line) was originally designed with three functional funnels, yet to even things out and make the ship appear more grandiose, they added a fourth one as a dummy into the designs while the the Olympic itself was halfway built. The aft funnel was a dummy largely used for looks, as well as 1st and 2nd class galley ventilation. I think it's something the DOT should at least look into, from a ventilation/appearances standpoint. I was thinking of that when the ISLAND HOME was being built. It would improve her appearance as well as her western sisters. Include dummy exhaust pipes as well. Yes, the TEV PRINCESS MARGUERITE II's aft stack was almost a dummy for appearance. It was functional in that it had the main set of three whistles. They sounded a higher pitch than the single one on the forward stack. Same aboard the TEV PRINCESS PATRICIA II. When passing my Puget Sound beach place in fog, the MAGGIE would sound her whistle as per regulations. Sometimes the main set would be sounded, and sometimes the forward single one. The single one really echoed around my community very well! Almost like a pipe organ in a huge stone cathedral. There were many times when the MAGGIE would begin sounding her whistle(s) before entering the fog bank. It was a true science of study of the speed of sound. It would take several seconds after seeing white steam from the whistle(s) for the sound to reach shore. Most of the ferries had a whistle light that would go on when theirs were blasting away. These were sadly removed after the 1970s. I watched a whistle light go on from a passing Jumbo on the Edmonds to Port Townsend run at night in 1979 (after the sinking of the Hood Canal Bridge) and counted the seconds to hear the sound. The Steel Electrics had these whistle lights in their wooden cabin days. Good to know that something is being done to correct the list of the CHETZY and her KDT sisters. This isn't unprecedented. The historic yacht Talitha G (previously Rosenkavalier) has two funnels, one of which is fake. Famous yacht and ship designer John Bannenberg was given the contract to revitalize and refit this yacht once owned by John Paul Getty. It seems that the idea of satelite dishes and TV antennas were thought to ruin the classic lines. So they are actually inside one of the two funnels hidden from sight. |
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 18, 2013 16:59:01 GMT -8
Barnacle, If that's the case, why not build a fake stack ( after fixing the lean ) on the otherside and they could use it for a storage unit. What's a few more $$$. Please correct me if i'am wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that the Princess Marguerite have a fake stack behind the forward one?? EG i bet knows. It's a few more dollars we don't have?  I believe others have answered for the Maggie--I confess I personally have very little knowledge of the Princess Marguerite other than she was a lovely vessel and I miss her dearly. |
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Post by FNS on Feb 18, 2013 18:31:01 GMT -8
Barnacle, If that's the case, why not build a fake stack ( after fixing the lean ) on the otherside and they could use it for a storage unit. What's a few more $$$. Please correct me if i'am wrong, but i think i remember reading somewhere that the Princess Marguerite have a fake stack behind the forward one?? EG i bet knows. It's a few more dollars we don't have? I believe others have answered for the Maggie--I confess I personally have very little knowledge of the Princess Marguerite other than she was a lovely vessel and I miss her dearly. Me, too! And a quiet Princess as well. The loudest sound heard aboard her was the tremendous amount of electricity coming from her steam turbo generators to the electrical distribution room. A loud burring sound, like you hear on shavers and hair buzzers, was heard through a good part of the midships areas of the ship. I wish I was placed here on Earth during the time when the ferries ruled the waters on San Francisco Bay. Would have been neat to hear how the machinery of TEV PERALTA, TEV YERBA BUENA, TEV HAYWARD, and TEV SAN LEANDRO sounded like. Probably as quiet as the MAGGIE with their Turbo-Electric machinery. I wished I had more rides aboard the old Diesel-Electric Vessel CHETZEMOKA. I miss that old ferry. It's always a joy to board the new MV CHETZEMOKA and to see pictures of her predecessor on the bulkheads adjacent to the galley on the Saloon Deck. |
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Post by FNS on Mar 5, 2013 3:25:16 GMT -8
A forum member asked me on the 144 thread if the CHETZEMOKA II's stack was painted during her refit, the stack retains its SSA colors with the WSDOT logo. Here are some new photos of her:  The CHETZY II at Point Defiance on Sunday, March 3, 2013.  Among the modifications made was an extension of the rub rails as cone shaped ends. This is End Number One.  This is End Number Two.  While we are in the stack color discussion on the KDT ferries, Martinac's ferry also sported no green bands either. White and black with the WSDOT logo. From: www.workboat.com/newsdetail.aspx?id=14443 |
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Mar 5, 2013 8:19:06 GMT -8
I really wish they would paint green bands on the KDT's funnels... The sides of the ships looks far too white in my opinion!
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 12, 2013 22:42:27 GMT -8
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 13, 2013 14:20:33 GMT -8
Talquah to Point Defiance on the Chetzy. Filmed yesterday:
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Post by SolDuc on Sept 13, 2013 22:24:45 GMT -8
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Post by Luke on Nov 29, 2013 17:19:43 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 3, 2013 20:58:57 GMT -8
A few pictures from last Friday. I haven't seen this signage on any other ferry.  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr Some other new signage on the ferry:  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr Some new lights have been placed at the access points to the stair towers. They look like those blinking lights you would see on barricades and traffic barrels.  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr Most of the seats have been removed from the mezzanine deck on the stair tower side:  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr And most of the bike racks have been removed as well:  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr  MV Chetzemoka by planet_lb, on Flickr I can't seem to ever recall seeing those large mirrors on the ceiling before (there were several of them). |
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Post by Neil on Dec 3, 2013 22:16:35 GMT -8
Those empty spaces are signs of a ridiculously over built boat... and who can't spell 'trespass'?
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 8, 2013 12:59:24 GMT -8
Did a little early evening cruise on Chetzy yesterday on the very cold and clear day we had: Chetzemoka approaching Point Defiance  Twilight from the forward pickle forks on MV Chetzemoka  Chetzemoka at Point Defiance  |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 8, 2013 15:14:13 GMT -8
ooh nice! I do love cold crisp sunny days clear nights. I bet there was not many people outside? I dont know how many people would sit in their cars either being how cold it has been recently.
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Post by SolDuc on Jan 7, 2014 21:10:40 GMT -8
On NYE I took a ride down on the Chetzy at Talequah. During the roundtrip I had plenty of time to shoot video (a ferry tour) as well as to do a lot of Scott-style photography in the Cabin.  Cabin, MV Chetzemoka - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr  Cabin, MV Chetzemoka - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr  Sun Deck, MV Chetzemoka - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr The crew of the Chetzy have a lot of free time, or at least they're not very busy. They made paper and cardboard holiday decorations in the cabin, including do not touch signs!  Cabin, MV Chetzemoka - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr Finally, here's a shot the Chetzy sailing away from Talequah.  MV Chetzemoka outbound from Talequah - Washington State Ferries by SolDuc Photography, on Flickr |
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