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Post by EGfleet on May 1, 2009 13:44:44 GMT -8
The Issaquah was still in drydock when I went over the West Seattle Bridge tonight. It didn't look like she was being lowered back into the water. I'm suprised that the work would've been finished nearly a week ahead of schedule (especially considering she was late getting into drydock). Well, work might've been curtailed on the Issy to get her back in service. Or they well could've finished ahead of schedule. And to be perfectly blunt, unless you're in gridlock, nobody is on the bridge long enough to see a drydock move.  Nevertheless, she's supposed to be going back on the run this afternoon sometime, I think. Yep, she's there now and the Kitsap is headed for Kingston... |
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Post by Kahloke on May 1, 2009 14:15:58 GMT -8
I'm curious how Kitsap will do on the Edmonds-Kingston run. I know the Olympic Peninsula accounts for quite a bit of the ferry traffic going through Kingston, but is it so much that they can get away with a 124-car vessel? It seems to me there is a lot of traffic originating from the Kitsap Peninsula itself.
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Post by Barnacle on May 1, 2009 16:23:35 GMT -8
I'm expecting a mind-boggling backup, followed by a flustered spokesperson.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on May 1, 2009 16:51:26 GMT -8
MV Kitsap is at the Clinton dock at the auxiliary slip now. Must be waiting to go to edmonds after rush hour.
The edmonds dock looks suspicously empty for a Friday night.....
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 1, 2009 17:30:57 GMT -8
MV Kitsap is at the Clinton dock at the auxiliary slip now. Must be waiting to go to edmonds after rush hour. The edmonds dock looks suspicously empty for a Friday night ..... Apparently the Kitsap will be on the Mukilteo - Clinton route tomorrow according to this service bulletin: "There will be no galley service on the Kitsap on Saturday, May 2nd. This will affect the boat that leaves on the hour in Mukilteo and the half hour in Clinton. Sorry for any inconvenience this will cause you." Edit: She's replaced the Cathlamet for the time being. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on May 1, 2009 20:31:51 GMT -8
MV Kitsap is at the Clinton dock at the auxiliary slip now. Must be waiting to go to edmonds after rush hour. The edmonds dock looks suspicously empty for a Friday night..... That would be due to the Hood Canal Bridge being closed meaning no Olympic Peninsula shortcut. |
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Post by EGfleet on May 2, 2009 8:09:04 GMT -8
MV Kitsap is at the Clinton dock at the auxiliary slip now. Must be waiting to go to edmonds after rush hour. The edmonds dock looks suspicously empty for a Friday night ..... Apparently the Kitsap will be on the Mukilteo - Clinton route tomorrow according to this service bulletin: "There will be no galley service on the Kitsap on Saturday, May 2nd. This will affect the boat that leaves on the hour in Mukilteo and the half hour in Clinton. Sorry for any inconvenience this will cause you." Edit: She's replaced the Cathlamet for the time being. had a minor repair that needed to be done at Eagle Harbor. The Kitsap should swap out in time for the Edmonds-Port Townsend run tomorrow. |
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Post by hergfest on May 2, 2009 18:52:08 GMT -8
So I have a question. The service notice about the Edmonds/PT service says the boat leaves Edmonds at 8:40pm, but no departure from PT. Is it a round trip or just one way with a deadhead back?
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Post by Kahloke on May 2, 2009 18:59:07 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 28, 2009 11:54:24 GMT -8
I was reading this entry over at the West Seattle Blog where someone made a comment about a long-range plan that included making the Southworth terminal walk-on only due to lack of traffic and funds. Has this ever been actually considered? |
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Post by Kahloke on May 28, 2009 12:02:43 GMT -8
That doesn't make sense to me. The option I have heard about, or maybe read about (possibly in the long range plan?), is to break up the triangle into 3 separate routes:
Fauntleroy-Vashon
Fauntleroy-Southworth
Vashon-Southworth
In such a scenario, I can see two boats for F-V, 1 boat for F-S, and Hiyu for V-S.
late edit:
OK - I just looked up WSF's revised draft plan, and breaking up the triangle as I described above is in the plan, Scenario A. 2 124-car vessels will be deployed to F-V, 1 124-car vessel at F-S, and Hiyu at V-S.
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Post by Barnacle on May 28, 2009 14:23:30 GMT -8
How recent is that draft plan, just out of curiosity? At one point the Hiyu was considered too small to be the Southworth Shuttle.
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Post by Kahloke on May 28, 2009 19:29:39 GMT -8
It's the one on WSF's website dated January 31, 2009, so it's at least this year, but not terribly recent. And, of course, we all know this draft plan will evolve and change as time marches forward, so we probably shouldn't take this thing too seriously. Here's the link: www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/planning/ESHB2358.htmI clicked on the Full Revised Draft Long-Range Plan pdf link. This draft plan also calls for replacing Hiyu in the 2027 time frame with a 40-50 car used ferry. So I guess they are planning (at least for now) to purchase a ferry at that time rather than do a new-build. |
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Post by BreannaF on May 29, 2009 6:47:06 GMT -8
This draft plan also calls for replacing Hiyu in the 2027 time frame with a 40-50 car used ferry. So I guess they are planning (at least for now) to purchase a ferry at that time rather than do a new-build. You know what? They're funny! Why didn't they think of that for our current situation. If we need a new ferry, we will just head down to the used ferry lot and see what is available for purchase! OK, I'll cut the sarcasm. But I will ask this of the writers of that report: What makes them think that it's any more likely that someone will have a used ferry lying around in 2027 than having one available in 2009? I didn't think so....... |
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Post by Barnacle on May 29, 2009 9:11:35 GMT -8
That's totally daft. The HIYU is too small for much practical use now; why replace her with a similarly-sized ferry?
Oh, wait, long-range plan draft. Those things are complete flights of fancy after two years out. ;D
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Post by Kahloke on May 29, 2009 10:22:34 GMT -8
At one point the Hiyu was considered too small to be the Southworth Shuttle. Does anyone know what the traffic numbers are on that short crossing (Vashon-Southworth)? I can't think that they would be too high. It seems like most folks are travelling between Fauntleroy and Vashon, or Fauntleroy and Southworth. Maybe Hiyu would be fine as the Southworth Shuttle, at least for awhile, and it would finally give her a useful purpose. However, I don't think we're going to have to worry about it for several years. New boats are needed before they can start displacing the Issy's down to the South Sound. If the F-V-S triangle does ever get broken up as proposed, I don't think it would happen until after Mukilteo gets its new ferries. |
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 29, 2009 10:57:55 GMT -8
They were probably at their highest while the K2 plant was still open (manufacturing was moved off of Vashon earlier this decade and the rest of the operations moved over to Seattle a tear or two ago).
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Post by SS Shasta on May 29, 2009 11:34:05 GMT -8
At one point the Hiyu was considered too small to be the Southworth Shuttle. Does anyone know what the traffic numbers are on that short crossing (Vashon-Southworth)? I can't think that they would be too high. It seems like most folks are travelling between Fauntleroy and Vashon, or Fauntleroy and Southworth. Maybe Hiyu would be fine as the Southworth Shuttle, at least for awhile, and it would finally give her a useful purpose. However, I don't think we're going to have to worry about it for several years. New boats are needed before they can start displacing the Issy's down to the South Sound. If the F-V-S triangle does ever get broken up as proposed, I don't think it would happen until after Mukilteo gets its new ferries. The last time I was a Southworth about three years ago, I was surprised at the number of vehicles and walk-on passengers going to Vashon. There were also five or six motorcycles as well. One wonders where this traffic was coming from? My thoughts were that many were Navy Yard workers at Bremerton returning home. As for the walk-ons, do they have bus service connecting Southworth with Bremerton (and the Navy Yard)? |
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Post by FNS on May 29, 2009 11:38:03 GMT -8
One thing for sure, the HIYU isn't ADA compliant. To make her ADA compliant, an enclosure on the Main Deck will need to be built under one of her low overhead sides (next to one of the ladderways that lead up to the passenger cabin) for an ADA head and an elevator. This will take up at least three or four car spaces.
The last thing wheelchair people would ever want to see is a deck mounted shed that you see on the POWELL RIVER QUEEN and a "honey bucket" (I wouldn't even enter one as there are bees in there making buckets of honey! ;D).
My guess is that Pierce County may have another ferry built for themselves by the quarter part of this century and WSF would get the used CHRISTINE ANDERSON for the Southworth shuttle. She is ADA compliant with an elevator. Her cabin will need enlarging with vending machines, a ship's office/first aid room, and a proper crew lounge. Her single wheelhouse is perfect for this short crossing (her navigators don't have to change wheelhouses).
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Post by Kahloke on May 29, 2009 11:41:16 GMT -8
I was thinking that as well (about Christine Anderson) - that she might be the vessel WSF would/could purchase in the 2027 time frame, assuming Pierce County builds a new ferry by then.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 25, 2009 11:42:42 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 22, 2009 16:49:15 GMT -8
A few from last month... MV Tillikum and MV Klahowya  (left to right) MV Issaquah, MV Klahowya, and MV Tillikum     |
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 19, 2010 4:56:48 GMT -8
Oh yeah... there was a boat switch on the hoof yesterday.  Issy's back at FVS, Chelan moved to Bremerton, and the Kitsap should be at Eagle Harbor. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 19, 2010 8:26:55 GMT -8
Wow Vashon has alot of Berths or I mean Slips as WSF says. Looks like 2 plus a tie up Slip??
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Issy's back at FVS, Chelan moved to Bremerton, and the Kitsap should be at Eagle Harbor.